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A new hope (Trifecta Tune)

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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A new hope (Trifecta Tune)

Hello Ladies and Maniacs, it is my pleasure tonight to ask you a few questions to which I hope that u will answer.

I need to know how much HP i would stand to gain just by doing a trifecta tune, no mods or anything else done to the car. I want to do an N/A build which I have waiting for a while to do and now is the time to strike! I have a few surprises for the community which I would love to flaunt.

I would love to get this car around 170+ hp, that would make my day.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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what kind of car do you have
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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what kind of car do you have

id assume 2.2 seems its in the 2.2 section.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jsscooby
id assume 2.2 seems its in the 2.2 section.
darn i never check the section no more
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jsscooby
id assume 2.2 seems its in the 2.2 section.
U would be correct sir. I have a 2.2L 2007 silver sedan. I want to squeeze as much horsepower as I can out of her. I have no mods at all except for removing the annoying air resonator from the airbox.

Like I said above I am hoping to get around the 170/180+HP range. I have a good feeling that I will only be able to attain that is if I get the 2.4 intake mani, and a few other mods.

Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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id say full exhaust..header downpipe and catback. some sort of CAI, 2.4 mani and 2.4 TB and then tune should put you in that area
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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http://huckernage.monchar.com/

that is a very good example how trifecta can get you some juice.

there are a couple vids on this page that show you how trifecta is better that your GF mouahahaha

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U would be correct sir. I have a 2.2L 2007 silver sedan. I want to squeeze as much horsepower as I can out of her. I have no mods at all except for removing the annoying air resonator from the airbox.

Like I said above I am hoping to get around the 170/180+HP range. I have a good feeling that I will only be able to attain that is if I get the 2.4 intake mani, and a few other mods.

Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.
I dont know if I have that king pf power after my mod.

just CAM can make real power from your ecotec.

follow nwea modsssssssssssssssss and you ll be on dark side of the force.... niahniahahaniaiaiainaihahah

Originally Posted by cobaltfan10110
Hello Ladies and Maniacs, it is my pleasure tonight to ask you a few questions to which I hope that u will answer.

I need to know how much HP i would stand to gain just by doing a trifecta tune, no mods or anything else done to the car. I want to do an N/A build which I have waiting for a while to do and now is the time to strike! I have a few surprises for the community which I would love to flaunt.

I would love to get this car around 170+ hp, that would make my day.
you wont get that power with a tune but RL at 7300 can you make you happy

I set a G5 at 7600 rpm with only a intake.
- this guy own a srt4 before so his G5 is nothing compare to his srt4
-rpm he wanted so rpm I proposed to him a 7600 rpm and he accepted it so........
on stock 2.2 it hard to get something but removed TS and RL at 7300 it priceless according to me

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HolyJerex212
id say full exhaust..header downpipe and catback. some sort of CAI, 2.4 mani and 2.4 TB and then tune should put you in that area
i would do all this and add a cam
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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update from this guy 7600:
BLACKG5 says in french :7600rpm pas de probleme plusieurs fois par semaines sans probleme

7600 rpm no problem few times every week without problem so far so good

hucker: wich gear
blackg5: top speed doent care rpm he like, on 1frst gear and 2nd. I get 107-110 km/h on 2 nd gear = 61 mph
blackg5: it a excllent sleeper car that give lot of fun for a aunt car lol
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sport08
i would do all this and add a cam
A cam? U mean the overhead cams?

How much HP would I gain if I got a trifecta tune and the 2.4 intake/TB. Baby steps, one at a time. I really dont want to rush this with things I dont know, especially since she is the only car my family has and is my daily driver.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cobaltfan10110
A cam?
x2 i know what they are but why change them?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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dyno it now and after and you ll have your answer

but it noticable
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by huckernage
dyno it now and after and you ll have your answer

but it noticable
Hmm I'm gonna like this.

Then where should I start off. I need to get 2.4L parts: 2.4 mani, and the 2.4 TB. Is there anything else I should get? I think I need a gasket or something for it. And do i need to change any parts on my car. Again, its a 2007 2.2L so it should just bolt on, right?

Another question for you enthusiasts; would I damage my engine if I ran a 91 octane tune along with a higher redline? This my family's only car and it is my daily driver so I don't want to rebuild the engine every few months.

Total exageration but you get what I mean, I just don't want any screw ups.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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If you do a 50 shot, is it still considered N/A? If so, there you go. Cheap and simple, if you know what you are doing.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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If you do a 50 shot, is it still considered N/A? If so, there you go. Cheap and simple, if you know what you are doing.
nope
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cobaltfan10110
Hmm I'm gonna like this.

Then where should I start off. I need to get 2.4L parts: 2.4 mani, and the 2.4 TB. Is there anything else I should get? I think I need a gasket or something for it. And do i need to change any parts on my car. Again, its a 2007 2.2L so it should just bolt on, right?

Another question for you enthusiasts; would I damage my engine if I ran a 91 octane tune along with a higher redline? This my family's only car and it is my daily driver so I don't want to rebuild the engine every few months.

Total exageration but you get what I mean, I just don't want any screw ups.

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You will need new cams, full bolt ons, and a tune in order to achieve 180+whp on the L61. There are a couple people on here already who have done so. Try following their builds. And if this car is the only car in your family, then I would stay away from cams. If they aren't installed correct(timing), you will need new valves. That isnt cheap, especially if you dont know how to fix it yourself. Good luck
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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he will not neccessarilly need new cams...FULL bolt ons and a tune will get you there
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chevyLSchik
he will not neccessarilly need new cams...FULL bolt ons and a tune will get you there
elaborate... I havent heard of anyone getting higher than 170WHP with full bolt ons and a tune, unless theres something I'm missing in this "full"
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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intake, tb, intake mani, lightweight pullies, header, dp, exhaust, and tune
should put you in the ball park
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chevyLSchik
intake, tb, intake mani, lightweight pullies, header, dp, exhaust, and tune
should put you in the ball park
I still think you'd be 10+ HP short. Lightweight pulleys wont add horsepower either, they just make it so you can get into the higher powerband quicker and access HP quicker, but will not show results on a dyno.
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I like how everyone is forgetting that cams for an 07 L61 are pretty much non-existant...remember that little thing called a cam position sensor...yeah....there's what, 1 set of cams floating around here (someone had them and sold them to another member).

Forget the tune to begin with. Forget the 2.4 mani and tb to start with. Start with intake, header, dp, cat-back. Then go with the 2.4 mani and tb and tune all at once. You need to be tuned to run the TB anyway. And, there's no point in getting a tune now just to redo it later when you've done more to your car...you have to re-tune every time you change something as the tune is specific to your mods.

I forgot to mention...I don't know if you're looking for crank or wheel HP with your numbers, but 170-180 CRANK HP should be attainable with the intake, 2.4mani/tb, header, dp, cat-back, tune.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 007CobaltLS
I like how everyone is forgetting that cams for an 07 L61 are pretty much non-existant...remember that little thing called a cam position sensor...yeah....there's what, 1 set of cams floating around here (someone had them and sold them to another member).

Forget the tune to begin with. Forget the 2.4 mani and tb to start with. Start with intake, header, dp, cat-back. Then go with the 2.4 mani and tb and tune all at once. You need to be tuned to run the TB anyway. And, there's no point in getting a tune now just to redo it later when you've done more to your car...you have to re-tune every time you change something as the tune is specific to your mods.

I forgot to mention...I don't know if you're looking for crank or wheel HP with your numbers, but 170-180 CRANK HP should be attainable with the intake, 2.4mani/tb, header, dp, cat-back, tune.
crank, yes. Wheel, no.

As for the cams, I'm pretty sure someone said something about removing the sensor off your stock cams and putting it on the new ones...
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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well i have intake mani, CAI. SS header SS down pipe, custome catback (part magnaflow) and i dont think im at 170 ish...i bet more like 155 or 160 but iv have never dynoed...add a tune and im prolly closers to 160....
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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well i have intake mani, CAI. SS header SS down pipe, custome catback (part magnaflow) and i dont think im at 170 ish...i bet more like 155 or 160 but iv have never dynoed...add a tune and im prolly closers to 160....
The Cavs and Sunfires with your mods list have been getting 165hp at the motor.
Your Cobalt starts with a little more HP and TQ to start with.

170hp at the motor is possible.
I am not ricer mathing this out, it is just hard to imagine a Cobalt starting with more power, and has the same mods will land the same output.

It could possibly not add to max output but have a lot more on tap at other areas within the RPM band.
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Originally Posted by 007CobaltLS
I like how everyone is forgetting that cams for an 07 L61 are pretty much non-existant...remember that little thing called a cam position sensor...yeah....there's what, 1 set of cams floating around here (someone had them and sold them to another member).

Forget the tune to begin with. Forget the 2.4 mani and tb to start with. Start with intake, header, dp, cat-back. Then go with the 2.4 mani and tb and tune all at once. You need to be tuned to run the TB anyway. And, there's no point in getting a tune now just to redo it later when you've done more to your car...you have to re-tune every time you change something as the tune is specific to your mods.

I forgot to mention...I don't know if you're looking for crank or wheel HP with your numbers, but 170-180 CRANK HP should be attainable with the intake, 2.4mani/tb, header, dp, cat-back, tune.
talk to vince, you actually dont need that sensor and could install a cam from an 06 in there and just ahve it tuned out

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well i have intake mani, CAI. SS header SS down pipe, custome catback (part magnaflow) and i dont think im at 170 ish...i bet more like 155 or 160 but iv have never dynoed...add a tune and im prolly closers to 160....
id bet with a tune youd be at 165-170ish...depending on weather MAYBE 175 but i WOULDNT bet on it...

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