Ok so i fell in love with the cobalt back in early 05 when i first seen it. So i traded in the love of my life 99gmc z71 to get this little car. I do love it but the more i read in this forum the more i wished my credit was better to get a 2.0 or 2.4. Why is this motor in my cobalt such a problem. I would like to say i dont give a **** if its the red headed step child of the bunch but i do care! I wanted the cobalt for all the aspects of what it is. However i couldnt qualify for a SS and the fact my girl has driven an auto accord and i would freak if she got on the gas in the SS. But why do i have to have such an inferior motor. I did read my motor is made for a turbo. If somone can enlighten me i would appreciate it!

 

sorry, you got robbed, shoulda saved for the 2.0 it's way worth it

 

go to the drag racing section and check out the thread under fast LS you will feel better for sure : )

 

the internals arnt made to handle an extreme amount of boost but alot of cavaliers with 2.2L run turbos with 5-8psi stock all day with no problems. Of course this is properly tuned and your going to have to shell out 2500-3500 for a nice turbo setup that wont let you down.

The engine has the potential, but do you have the time/money and Down Time?

 

I wish i could have saved for the SS it was either trade in the pickup or do 7 grand worth of work the the entire runing gear of the truck. every peice of moving parts in the entire running gear stearing, suspention etc. was in need of a full replacement plus at 96000+ miles it was getting tired. Im just curious as to why it has to be this way!


Burst. I have the time and money for sure i make about 60 k a year and all winter i dont work but maybe at most 30 hours a week.

 

well then start surfing the net finding good deals on different parts for a turbo. Pick them up one at a time and piece it all together. When you have all the parts install it have charge pipes/down pipe made at a local shop. and your off. You can look up alot of custom turbos at J-body.org for the 2.2L they may have more advice than here b/c so many of them have done it. I used to have a 97 z24 2.4L and its a great site to go to for info. Or you can wait until Hahn or someone else comes out with a kit ready to go but it will be 3500+ easy... if you want to wait for that, i would upgrade your clutch, flywheel, internals, then wait for the turbo to come out

 

but dont get down b/c the 2.2L is a great engine, you can make amazing power with it.

 

mabey you feel robbed because this sight is called cobalt SS, which is the reason the 2.2 is talked down upon by many.

 

Agreed ^^^

 

my lil sister has a 2.2 and we are tracking **** down for it all the time , were gonna try to put down like 400hp with a turbo setup

 

How do you make 60K a year and cant afford an SS?

I am not trying to be an ass, but I make 41K a year and have one, and I'm 7K upside down.

 

I Will Help You Do The Turbo If That Is What You Choose To Do. You Know I Will. You Still Going On Sunday Or Not?

 

Also, the 2.2L has a LOT of potential to be a very fast car.

With the right amount of money though, anything can be a fast car.

I had the 2.2L before my SS and I loved that car.

 

yeah, go hang out at Cobalt2.2.net Just kidding. But if money isn't the option, how could you not get an ss

 

oops sorry for the caps i am at work

 

**** the haters, the 2.2 is a great engine. I love my motor, and talkin to one of the kids here at school that co-ops with GM and builds the heads and blocks for the 2.2 said the head and block is actually better made than that of the LSJ (2.0)

Judging from what i saw at my time at the track with the Southeast Ecotec Enthusiasts, it wont take much for our cars to run with SS/SC's I ran a 15.6 with just a K&N drop in filter in my 5-spd LS and the SS/SCs were running 14's. I mean, minor bolt-ons and some suspension and tires with a good driver and you're right there in the 14's

Plan out what you want from the car, and go with that. there are a few sites that are selling turbo kits that they peiced together (maximumboost.net comes to mind) and garret and hahn are both working on kits for our cars. Give it time and a little bit of money and the Ecotec will make you happy

 

Lets see i started this job just over a year ago!!! i moved here from wyoming a year ago and my exwife put me 60K in the hole when she walked out with her now husband and left my son with me. If you would like to know what i have accomplished in the past year please ask me and i will tell you... 4 months ago i had a credit score of 260... now its just over 500. Dont hate because its not like you know what i have gone through I just know that it was gonna be about 5 more months before i could qualify for a SS and then the truck would have been at the junk yard cause i wasnt gonna sink 8 grand into it then trade it in and take a huge loss.. I still owed 8k on the pickup and walked out of the dealership with the truck paid off and the LS at 12,500.00 I got a good deal

in no way am i chewing ass just wanted to clarify!

 

Yeah are we still gonna meat at the gas staion at 6am off brodway and 470? I know i need to take the spare tire out and perty much empty everything out of the car.

 

id like to see 14's with bolt ons....

 

Kids at your school are stupid. You need to go to another school so you dont catch it. They are the same block. The same. No difference. Exectly the same. One is just like the other. Made of the safe stuff. It has the same internals. They come from the same mold. Same stuff is poor into the same mold. The recieve the same stamp. 2.2 block = 2.0.


We went over this before.

Anywho, the 2.2 reached 9s before the ss/sc did.

 

the reason it's talked down upon by "many" is because they are ignorant and have nothing better to do... those same people that talk down to the 2.2, as soon as someone else with a faster car talks down to them, all you hear is "What an *******... this guy is saying our car is crap." wake up dude, you have a cobalt, not a lambo.

 

Yeah what the hell are you talking about man, read, think, then post

1) do you know anything about maximum boost at all? For any who are interested peruse the j-body forums for info about this e-bay re-seller before you consider it for your engine. Last I knew none of these kits are designed vehicle specific, rather a collection of parts and tube bends. Unless you are confident that you can route and weld your own charge tubes, this option likely isn't for you. Beyond that I don't think he offers any fuel upgrades yet. If this doesn't concern you, than you probably do not have the knowldege required to boost your own engine.

2) Garrett manufactures turbos, not turbo kits. if you don't understand this, DO NOT offer advice to someone on their new car.

3) Also as someone already stated the 2.2 and 2.0 are in fact the same block. Once again it is poor form to flap at the jaw when you don't know what you are talking about man. The only difference is the cylinder sleeves and the internals as far as the block is concerned.

4) Hahn is a great option, very well designed kits. Pricey sure, but in this market you get what you pay for. And if it is wearing the Hahn badge you can rest assure that Bill Hahn has put the necessary R&D into the product before he will let it go into your engine bay. Before my Cavalier got smashed and I bought the SS, I was saving up for a Hahn stg 2 turbo for the cavalier, everything I've seen from that company has been top notch so far.

Sorry for the rant, but it bothers me to see people offer advice when they don't understand the topic at hand

 

Well, that certainly explains that!

I wasnt trying to pry, was just a bit confused. makes perfect sense now!

Sorry bout the bad luck. The 2.2's are great cars though, and like I said, have tons of potential!

 

I know that you didnt know what i had been through and that why i did a small book on that subject. I was just curious as to why the 2.2 is bashed as much as it is...


Middle brother syndrome i guess

 

I know how you feel. It is finally about time I get to trade my 2.4 in for the 2.0. Still got about 2 weeks though :/