im guilty of trading in my 2.2 for a 2.0

 

the 2.0 is not the best car to be honest just due to the traction issues. Mine was totalled being hit and ofcourse i miss it, but its really not a billion times better than then 2.2 speed wise and they will run the same in the 60 foot due to traction. Obviously the 2.0 has a better interior, more power feautures, a better looking body, and a larger spoiler and wheels. There is no doubt the ss/sc is a far superior car, but the 2.2 has a lot of potential, the first gear in the car is great. If you get an intake, full exhaust including header and high flow cat and muffler i could see you running 14.9 on stock tires. My ss would do 14.5 at the track and the 2.2 is capable of doing 15.6-15.7 if properly driven(not to mention the 2.2 basically drives itself, very easy to shift, very smooth.) As for sinking a lot of money into it, I wouldnt waste your money because unless you put 3-5k into it, u wont even see 13's unless you use nitrous. Just drive what you have now, keep rebuilding your credit score, and know that you can get the ss or something even better in the future. Things do get better believe me, I went from the 05 ss/sc to an 06 ls and im not complaing. **** happens, the strong rebound from it.

 

As everyone is saying the original 2.2 eco is a very solid platform to work from. And if anyone is serious about modding it, the forums at jbody.org are a greta place to get some info. They have been trying to squeeze as much as possible from this engine for over 4 years now, and have had great success. There a couple over there running high 11's on turbo eco's.

 

don't treat me like i dont know ****. the 2.0 and the 2.2 block are NOT the same, while they are made the same but not at the same place. Don't be a ****** moron and act like you the god of all cuz you have an SS. I'm so sick of SS owners thinking they are the **** cuz they are not.

I never said Maximumboost was the ****, i'm sorry i should have mentioned that in my post but he wanted to know if anyone offered kits yet and that's the only on i know. That was my bad for not mentioning that it's NOT a good kit, but i assumed if he were to go with a turbo he would do research before anyway.

and again i mis-spoke with the garrett, i was on my way to lunch and typing fast. a Garrett based turbo-kit is being released soon, which is much more trust-worthy than max-boost's turbo-xs based kit.


I dont mean to get pissed off cuz i know there are a lot of retarded people on this board but as soon as i mis-spoke cuz i was in a hurry and didn't proof-read you rip me apart like i'm some un-knowing kid just making **** up. I'm not, get off my back

 

Just relax, More mods are coming for the 2.2's The 2.0's are going to get more because they are the performance addition of our cars... so the market it going to be with them. They are GREAT cars but u shouldnt feel robbed because you have a LS. I LOVE my 2.2 and im gonna do what i can to it until i either trade it in or buy a new ride. As far as the mods and stuff... f all that man get your credit right and ride out on your 30 sum odd miles per gallon from that lil engine and enjoy it.. Besides im from the school of... u can only go but SO fast in your car... but u can always make sure u look good in it... lol.. Fix it up make it look good and just enjoy...

 

nobody will

 

All bite. Where are the two blocks made at?

 

i didnt want to start a WAR lol.... but thanx everyone

 

No war. If im wrong, I want to be educated. The 2.2 is a fine engine. As i already stated, it was in the 9s well before the 2.0. I think the fastest the 2.0 has gone is 12.9x. Though I could be wrong because that was a few months ago.

Get the best car in your price range. If you couldnt afford the 2.0. Who cares?

 

No need to get all butt hurt man I'd just rather see good info given to people who are serious about modding their rides.

Not sure how you think my SS has anything to do with the fact that you gave poor info, but everything that I stated was in fact correct. I would have given the same response had I read your post a few months ago while I was driving my base optionless cavalier, but think what you will man. Once again if you don't think all of those engines are cast the same than you sir are the moron, and notice I never called names, just corrected the wrong info you posted. the eco block is the eco block, now lets move on to the questions asked in this topic.

Most companies who eventually make kits for the cobalts will likely use Garrett turbos for the reliability issues you talked about. Max boost used to sell the bullshit Chinese SSautochrome turbos, I don't know what he is selling now. I just didn't want anyone to think they could buy his kit and slap it on in a day. It doesn't work like that with his kits. But you are right, if someone wants to turbo their ride they should do all the required research themsleves and know what they are getting in to.

the point of my post was not to rip you apart, but to clarify, so that the people who need this information can avoid some of the mistakes others have already made, such as with the maximum boosts supposed "kits" I haven't read much on him lately though, so maybe Frank has cleaned up his act a little and started providing better stuff, or at least advertising it as what he's actually selling.

I appologize if it came across as an attack on you, as it wasn't. I don't know you and I have no idea what your level of automotive and mechanical knowledge extends to. But I've had eco's since 2003 and have picked up alot of info on them in that time. I never claimed to know everything, quite the opposite I will state what I know but am always open to learning more.

 

alright my bad, it sounded to me as if you were playing the all-mighty info god like several people on here do. You know as well as i do that there are people on this board that think they are the most amazing people in the world cuz they drive SS's

All i'm saying about the blocks is that they are not the same. The kid that is at school with me builds the 2.2 and sees a lot of the work that comes out of the factory that builds the 2.0. You were a kettering student, i'm sure you understand that just because two parts are made the same way but at different places does not alway make them the same. The oil channels throughout the block are different, and his factory has the cooling system on the 2.0 rated for no more than 300hp before you need to start looking at new cooling options.

I forget the technical explanation for why the 2.0 block is considered less strong by the factory, it has something to do with the materials used in the manufacturing process.

i did not mean to bite back so hard, i was stressed out and it seemed like you were attacking me like i was retarded. My bad.

 

It will happen soon...........SOMEONE is getting closer and closer all the time!

 

No harm no foul bro, the difference in cooling paths is new to me. As far as I knew the blocks were identical, but the internals and sleeves were changed to get the 2.0l displacement vs. the 2.2. Either way, any eco block has the ability to make rediculous power if the proper steps are followed. I want more info on the difference between the two blocks though, sounds interesting

 

aight, well i'm off to cananda for the night with some friends, i will talk to the kid tomorrow and PM you with some information. I'll have him explain it to me better so i can let you know

 

cool

 

its never going to happen with just bolt ons..... if it happens it would have been cheaper just to buy a turbo/supercharger/nitrous.


i havent really seen any impressive times yet from the 2.2, i raced mine once and never went back with it. Fastest i hit was 16.6 i had 17 inch wheels it was a manual. Might have been the humid weather but i never took it back... thats when i traded it in.

 

bottome line is if you don't want to get talked down on don't post on a forum that is not for your car hence SS or don't post at all, in all forums you will get talked about. I could really care less about whos is better because mine is the best as far as i'm concerned.

 

True.


https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drag-racing-52/fast-ls-cobalt-16139/

 

ok cool

 

Ricers.