Hey guys!

I've been doing some research on the 2.2L Ecotec Cobalts recently, and we're planning on releasing a Turbo Kit for it. However, I wanted to see if there would be much interest in this.

Stage 1: $1799.99
Stage 2: $2199.99 (Intercooled)
Stage 3: $2699.99 (Intercooled with Fuel Modifications)


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Let me know if this is something you guys might be interested in and I'll see what we can get going.

Thanks!


-Frank McKeever

Hey guys!

I've been doing some research on the 2.2L Ecotec Cobalts recently, and we're planning on releasing a Turbo Kit for it. However, I wanted to see if there would be much interest in this.

Stage 1: $1799.99


sure, once you tell me how much hp i'll gain. and you are talking the full set-up, not just a turbo by itself, right? i think there are quite a few of us who are interrested in a turbo. just slide us that bit of info. Thanks.

Thanks for the interest :) It looks like we should have this available within about a week.

To answer your question, this is a complete kit, not just the turbo itself. The gains are anywhere from 80-90 horsepower with a setup of 8-9 psi on the Stage 3. That would put you at around 230 horsepower.

The kit includes all of the following:

Garrett T3 Turbo w/internal wastegate
Manifold
Intercooler
Greddy Type S Blow Off Valve
Charge Pipes (w/custom welds for blow off valve)
High Flow Fuel Pump
Fuel Lines
Oil Feed Kit
Oil Return Kit
Mass Air Flow Sensor Adapter Plate
Vacuum Lines
Manifold Gasket
T3 Gasket
Silicone Boots & Clamps
Bolts, Nuts, Washers, & Necessary Hardware



Thanks, and let me know if you have any further questions!

I'm very interesting in a turbo kit....and I agree with xXx, if you produre it and throw up some dyno numbers you can bet that 2.2 owners will come calling. Put some testamonies up of cavy owners who have your system, if you want, I think it could only help. Especially for the people who didn't have a cavy before they got a Cobalt...

Thanks :) It's good to hear people would be interested.



This is still in production and not available for sale for a few weeks! We plan on getting new pictures with the proper manifold, manifold gasket, and MAF sensor adapter pictured.

If I can get one sale from this, I could probably fund for someone to do some dyno runs if they were serious abuot doing it.

Thanks!

The kit is now available for purchase!


Thanks!

If ya need an SS project car, I might be able to help ya out, I'm in Lakeland. :cssNET:

Awesome! We were actually looking for someone that had an SS and could help us out! I made a post about that awhile back. Do you happen to have AIM? We could talk on there. We're trying to work on some custom fiberglass items for the Cobalt SS, but it's hard to do without the car...and I think the dealership is already getting tired of seeing me! ;)

Let me know. Thanks.

LOL, you can drive up here to illinois anytime you want to use my car frank heh

if the SS dynos above 200, wouldnt the hp be 280-290whp after the kit?
and how is stage 3 only runnin 9 psi? seems a little low for being stage 3
and this kit would probably push the limits of stock internals, any recommended upgrades?
what size T3 does it run?

if the SS dynos above 200, wouldnt the hp be 280-290whp after the kit?
and how is stage 3 only runnin 9 psi? seems a little low for being stage 3
and this kit would probably push the limits of stock internals, any recommended upgrades?
what size T3 does it run?

He said it's for the 2.2L kit though. Wouldnt it not work on an SS? Also, unless your twin charging the SS you have to remember it's not going to dyno at 200hp w/o the supercharger in it.

Yeah, this kit is for the 2.2L Ecotec ONLY. It is NOT for the SS Supercharged.

Let me know if you have any further questions!

if the SS dynos above 200, wouldnt the hp be 280-290whp after the kit?
and how is stage 3 only runnin 9 psi? seems a little low for being stage 3
and this kit would probably push the limits of stock internals, any recommended upgrades?
what size T3 does it run?

ok. im still new to the turbo-talk. so what does PSI stand for? And what size T3?

So, how much HP does the stage 1 give you? I'm a fan of loud blow-off valves, does this sound nice on the Cavaliers or does it sound like those silent turbos than come standard on some cars? Kinda oblivious to this stuff, still interrested in stage 1. the rest is too expensive for a guy about to start college :(

The kit is now available for purchase!



Thanks!

If you want to boost sales... lose PayPal and pick up a merchant account

Yeah, I'm working on doing all of the "Add to Cart" features. Won't be for a little bit down the road though...

xXx - PSI stands for Pounds per Square Inch. PSI is basically the amount of pressure that your turbo is running. Most turbos come standard with a 5 PSI setting, which is about a 50 horsepower gain. The Stage 1 Kit is meant to be run at around 4 or 5 psi, so about 40-50 horsepower. Also, the BOV is VERY loud. It's a Greddy Type S, which is one of the loudest Blow Off Valves on the market. This is a T3 60 Trim by the way.

Let me know if you have anymore questions. Thanks! :)

damn my low paying job!

Would it be possible to work out a deal to purchase the stage 1 setup with the stage 3 fuel upgrades? My reasoning is the intercooler, I might want to purchase a bigger one, that's all

Sure, we can do that for you :) If you're serious about doing it, I can sell you the Stage 1 Kit with the FMU, High Flow Fuel Pump, and fuel lines for $2250 plus Shipping, so about $2300 Shipped.

Let me know if you'd be interested in doing this:

Thanks!

Sure, we can do that for you :) If you're serious about doing it, I can sell you the Stage 1 Kit with the FMU, High Flow Fuel Pump, and fuel lines for $2250 plus Shipping, so about $2300 Shipped.

Let me know if you'd be interested in doing this: admin@cavalierextreme.com

Thanks!

im sorry, but it may be that im 'middle-class' and work very hard for my money, but $2250 for that set-up (a gain of 40-50 hp) seems a little.. .expensive. seems like it gets harder and harder to have a cool car. fuck. :cry:

I know...

Turbo Kits are pretty expensive. Our prices are actually pretty cheap. If you're looking for a lot of power for a good price, I'd go with the Stage 3 for $2699. I realize that's a lot of money, but that's the kit that will give you the 100 horsepower gain.

Thanks ;)

Seems like it gets harder and harder to have a cool car. fuck. :cry:

Agreed. It also seems that all these young kids are getting their parents to buy them super expensive nice cars. I hate that more than anything.

$2700 is not bad at all for that entire setup. Ive seen some kits with similar gains run for almost $4000. I would love to have a turbo kit on my 2.2L, but I purchased my car under the SmartBuy and I doubt I will keep my Cobalt after the 4 year term.

$2700 is not bad at all for that entire setup. Ive seen some kits with similar gains run for almost $4000. I would love to have a turbo kit on my 2.2L, but I purchased my car under the SmartBuy and I doubt I will keep my Cobalt after the 4 year term.

Yeah, exactly. Thanks for the support :)

Agreed. It also seems that all these young kids are getting their parents to buy them super expensive nice cars. I hate that more than anything.


Im only 18, but I have a pretty good paying job for my age, and I purchased the Cobalt myself. I love the car, but kinda wish I woulda bought an SS, or went with the Neon SRT-4. I got the base model thinking there would be alot of cool parts for it, the block size on the engine was bigger than the SS, so I could possibly boost more horses out of it, but mostly my Cobalt was going to be for looks, because lets face it, I'm not going to own it forever, and in a few years, I'll get an Evolution :nuts: or an Impreza WRX. I wanted the turbo so I could say "hey, my car runs with Srt-4s", but between paying rent, paying car notes, paying insurence (being 18, Allstate KILLS me), paying for all the other nitpicking shit (girlfriends) , aftermarket companys have to understand that almost $3000 for 100 HP boost (which would put me at 245hp) is still laughable :red:

I understand I bought a Cobalt, but why doesnt Chevrolet understand that the main reason most of us bought a Cobalt is because we're not rich, and we live on a budget. No affence to the guy who is selling this kit, I'm sure that you will have people who will buy this, and I praise you man for actually making stuff for the 'balt, but the prices for that shit is steep and right now it seems like Cobalt owners are on the losing end. :(

Im only 18, but I have a pretty good paying job for my age, and I purchased the Cobalt myself. I love the car, but kinda wish I woulda bought an SS, or went with the Neon SRT-4. I got the base model thinking there would be alot of cool parts for it, the block size on the engine was bigger than the SS, so I could possibly boost more horses out of it, but mostly my Cobalt was going to be for looks, because lets face it, I'm not going to own it forever, and in a few years, I'll get an Evolution :nuts: or an Impreza WRX. I wanted the turbo so I could say "hey, my car runs with Srt-4s", but between paying rent, paying car notes, paying insurence (being 18, Allstate KILLS me), paying for all the other nitpicking shit (girlfriends) , aftermarket companys have to understand that almost $3000 for 100 HP boost (which would put me at 245hp) is still laughable :red:

I understand I bought a Cobalt, but why doesnt Chevrolet understand that the main reason most of us bought a Cobalt is because we're not rich, and we live on a budget. No affence to the guy who is selling this kit, I'm sure that you will have people who will buy this, and I praise you man for actually making stuff for the 'balt, but the prices for that shit is steep and right now it seems like Cobalt owners are on the losing end. :(

Well, keep in mind that though it's steep in price to us, it's still within reason in comparison to other markets as stated above. If you want a great car it's not going to come to you at a cheap price. It's also not going to happen over night. I know I'll be building a pretty decent car, but I def. don't expect it to happen tomorrow. I'll be suprised if it happens within the next year being that I'm military and will probly drive it MUCH less than most here as it is.

Just gotta save your money, get what you can and go with it. No one said you had to have the most insane car around, and no one else is driving the car but you, do what makes you happy. Besides, even if everything did come to you cheap, either everyone would have it and you'd get tired of it that much faster, or it would be so easily achieveable that it wouldn't mean much anyway.

$2700 is not bad at all for that entire setup. Ive seen some kits with similar gains run for almost $4000. I would love to have a turbo kit on my 2.2L, but I purchased my car under the SmartBuy and I doubt I will keep my Cobalt after the 4 year term.

Considering I recently spent almost $2000 on a GT Ballistic Ballbearing Turbo for my Talon $2700 for a complete setup is a bargain.

And now I'm selling the bloody car. I want my $2k back :(

ok...quick and stupid question probably but i'm new to all this stuff....if you were to get any of those turbo stages installed...does that lower your gas mileage per gallon then?

ok...quick and stupid question probably but i'm new to all this stuff....if you were to get any of those turbo stages installed...does that lower your gas mileage per gallon then?


Yup. I have to assume you don't know how it works, so here's how it works...

Engines require a precise mixture of Fuel to Air to work properly. The best ratio, called Stochiometric (did I spell that right?) is about 16 parts air to 1 part gas. It's the ECMs job in the modern car to maintain this ratio. When you force more air into the engine via turbo charging, the car must in turn add more gas to the mix to keep it all running correctly.

I know...

Turbo Kits are pretty expensive. Our prices are actually pretty cheap. If you're looking for a lot of power for a good price, I'd go with the Stage 3 for $2699. I realize that's a lot of money, but that's the kit that will give you the 100 horsepower gain.

Thanks ;)

Those prices are very nice for a full kit.

Are you using the same turbo for each kit? If so then someone could start off with Stage I, then later on upgrade to Stage II or III?

If someone were to build the bottom end, add a boost controller and appropriate fuel mods, what's the hp limits of the turbo?

ok...quick and stupid question probably but i'm new to all this stuff....if you were to get any of those turbo stages installed...does that lower your gas mileage per gallon then?

Not necessarily. Most of the time you'll be driving "off boost" so it'll be like stock. However, if you drive with your foot in it all of the time, you'll definitely see a decrease in gas mileage.

It also depends on when the turbo comes on. The stock SRT-4 turbo is so small that if boost control is taken away from the stock computer, we get part-throttle-boost, as much as 15psi at 50% throttle, as a result gas mileage goes down. Aftermarket turbo upgrades are alot bigger and as a result come on later in the RPM and the part throttle boost is virtually eliminated.

With my current modifications (stock turbo), around town I get about 20-22mpg and about 25-26 on the highway. My friend has an aftermarket turbo, produces nearly 2x the horsepower and gets better gas mileage around town (23-24) and on the highway (27-28).

Yup. I have to assume you don't know how it works, so here's how it works...

Engines require a precise mixture of Fuel to Air to work properly. The best ratio, called Stochiometric (did I spell that right?) is about 16 parts air to 1 part gas. It's the ECMs job in the modern car to maintain this ratio. When you force more air into the engine via turbo charging, the car must in turn add more gas to the mix to keep it all running correctly.

Pretty much correct, except Stoich is 14.7

Here is a good chart to reference:

http://www.azchatfield.net/MiscPics/Airfuel.gif

Note, however, that with Forced Induction applications (Supercharger, Turbo, Nitrous) usually you want your Air-Fuel ratio a bit rich, around 11.5:1.

Yep, each kit uses the same turbo, so it's possible to get the Stage 1 and upgrade the other components later. However, we suggest that you don't raise the boost much past 10 unless you plan on upgrading your internals.

Sure, we can do that for you If you're serious about doing it, I can sell you the Stage 1 Kit with the FMU, High Flow Fuel Pump, and fuel lines for $2250 plus Shipping, so about $2300 Shipped.
Well unfoutunately it's probably going to be a year or so before I go forced induction. Eventhough I'd love to have a boosted car, I want to make it look fast before I make it fast... :D But when I'm ready to go the forced induction route, I will defnitely look your way...Thanks for your support of the Cobalt, the market for it is only going to grow.

ok thanks guys. was just curious

No problem! Let me know if you have anymore questions :)

I want to make it look fast before I make it fast... :D

Bah! You're getting that backward. Leave the looks stock and go for the power first... Can you say "Sleeper" ? :D

True, because then people see your car and say "wow, it's fast"...and then it's not. ;)

Considering I recently spent almost $2000 on a GT Ballistic Ballbearing Turbo for my Talon $2700 for a complete setup is a bargain.

And now I'm selling the bloody car. I want my $2k back :(

bah, evo 16g is much better, my friend hit 12's with intake exhaust fuel mods, and dsmlink

bah, evo 16g is much better, my friend hit 12's with intake exhaust fuel mods, and dsmlink

I bought this thing to replace my 16G. I'm also running DSMLink, Walbro HP Pump, etc. Now I just want to sell the car becasue I'm tired of messing aroung with this stuff.

If I were to continue with my plans I'd be hitting 11's but I've kinda lost interest.

...right now it seems like Cobalt owners are on the losing end. :(

Try owning an ION, and see what it feels like. At least companies produce parts for your car right away. Any parts produced for Saturns are marked up so high at the beginning, that no one wants to buy them and new car buyers don't end up buying a Saturn because they can't afford to mod one. Then the parts get discontinued after 2 years or so, and the cycle starts all over again.

yep for the ions they are short handed thats why when they came out i was fabing up my SC kit to run against the SS and the Redline and getting the word out is the hard part! lol

saturndood - We're actually working on a turbo kit for the saturn right now. Not sure how that will go though!

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