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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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4 Wheel drive- very quick Question....

Would it make a different that the cobalt were a 4 wheel drive instend of the current wheel drive for the 2005-2006.....i`m not too sure of it would make any differents whatsoever.....

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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harder launches, no tires spin
extra weight due to transfer case and drive axles
front and rear LSD

but will NEVER happen so get used to rotating your tires to keep max tread up front
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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yeah first gear would become its best and all the others would suffer.
it would also feel like a truck.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 02:18 AM
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oh allright....

I though it made somewhat of a differents because i would assume that Evo was picking up more speed and power being a 4 wheel drive.....Bahh...lol. But thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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If EVO's and STI's didn't have AWD they wouldn't be much of anything at all.

There good 1/4 mile times are all in the first 1/8 whrere the AWD is perfect. Then drag and weight kick in.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
If EVO's and STI's didn't have AWD they wouldn't be much of anything at all.

There good 1/4 mile times are all in the first 1/8 whrere the AWD is perfect. Then drag and weight kick in.

Exactly. The only reason that the EVO and STi can run such good times is because they are AWD. They can save up to a full second in 0-60 and the 1/4 mile just from a good launch, which is easy to do with AWD - just rev to a few grand and drop the clutch.

Now where the AWD is a huge benefit in launching, is actually a disadvantage once the car gets moving. The drivetrain robs much more power than a FWD or RWD setup would, so there a lot of parastatic loss - which means less actual power getting to the wheels.

Without the advantage of an excellent launch, the EVO and STi are much less fearsome. Going from a roll, a stock Mustang GT would easily waste either of them. A Cobalt SS S/C or Dodge SRT-4 would be able to keep up (from a roll) with a few good mods
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Exactly. The only reason that the EVO and STi can run such good times is because they are AWD. They can save up to a full second in 0-60 and the 1/4 mile just from a good launch, which is easy to do with AWD - just rev to a few grand and drop the clutch.

Now where the AWD is a huge benefit in launching, is actually a disadvantage once the car gets moving. The drivetrain robs much more power than a FWD or RWD setup would, so there a lot of parastatic loss - which means less actual power getting to the wheels.

Without the advantage of an excellent launch, the EVO and STi are much less fearsome. Going from a roll, a stock Mustang GT would easily waste either of them. A Cobalt SS S/C or Dodge SRT-4 would be able to keep up (from a roll) with a few good mods
I dont know about a GT, maybe a Mach1, or the new GT though. The 260HP ones have to much weight to keep up with the lighter STi, or Evo.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dude3466423
Would it make a different that the cobalt were a 4 wheel drive instend of the current wheel drive for the 2005-2006.....i`m not too sure of it would make any differents whatsoever.....

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u waste more gas ....
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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There is a difference between 4 wheel drive and AWD. Subarus have all wheel drive and trucks have 4 wheel drive. 4 wheel drive must be locked in by a seperate shifter while AWD is all the wheels working, all the time. This allows for better traction and greater power distribution to all the wheels. When you get in a Cobalt, you are using front wheel drive. This is better for straight line performance and street use due to the fact you only have to send power to two wheels. Now with front wheel drive, if you want power distributed equally, you will need an LSD (limited slip differential). When this comes into play, both wheels will get an equal amount of horse and torque, allowing for better traction and acceleration.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Actually guys I had a 2003 Mustang GT before my Camaro SS's.

My Cobalt SS would kill my GT. Even after some bolt-on's from a roll my SS would kill my GT. From a dead stop my GT would most likely pull on my CSS but not by much. I could easily make up the difference.

I messed around with a STI on my way home from the dealer and on the highway even with me driving very nice he had to really try to pass me.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Actually if you have a variable power distributer you can transfer the power to the rear wheels. on all wheel drive.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brianfcp
Actually if you have a variable power distributer you can transfer the power to the rear wheels. on all wheel drive.

Hmmmmm.....I can only assume you mean a torque sensing or electronically adjustable center differential....not all AWD systems are created equal either...many are actually either FWD or RWD until wheel slip occurs, at which point power begins being transferred to the wheels that have traction.....systems like this are in MOST awd vehicles, including GM trucks and suv's(rear wheel drive) GM minivans and the Equinox/torrent (front wheel drive) as well as Honda, BMW, Porsche etc..... Subaru and Audi are the only two major manufacturers using a true symmetrical AWD system.
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