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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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stock size 2 piece rotors

I have been in contact with Fastbrakes, and they have said they can make a stock size 2 piece rotor for the front and back, price is around $400 per axle. This is a great alternative to a full big brake upgrade, plus should all but eliminate the warping issue one piece rotors have from heavy use. couple these with the CA line kit and a set of EBC pads and you would have a very nice brake setup. just thought I would let you know. website is www.fastbrakes.com

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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I've been contimplating on the SSBC brackes for my car
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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well, for those not wanting to spend close to $1000 per axle, you could do

$400 for front rotors
$75 for front EBC pads
$400 for rear rotors
$56 for EBC pads
$109 for CA stainless lines

Thats $1040 for the entire car, plus the cost of upgraded fluid with a higher wet and dry boiling point.

on the other hand, SSBC's kits are $895 for the front axle, and $1195 for the rear axle.
thats $2090 for the entire car, or double the cost of doing stock size rotors with pads and s.s. lines. the only thing you are not replacing are the calipers, but honestly how many of us drive our cars so far past the stock braking limit that we need a race brake setup on our cars?

Just trying to give everyone here a cost saving alternative to the crappy powerslot warp happy rotors, or a full on brake replacement kit costing thousands. the other nice thing is when you need to replace your rotors, you just call up the company, and all you have to buy is the rotor band, you never should have to replace the seat hat, saving you money.

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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Im interested. I was hoping they would make somthing like this my self.

Later
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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SSBC is **** lately. Pardon my french. I am the head engineer at a company not far from SSBC and There are a few machinists that left SSBC to come work for us. They said the company is going down the tubes because they are getting so big, the quality is dropping since the brothers that own it just dont stay involved or least of all they just dont care. I would be more inclined to build your own kit or see if there is another company with a kit for our car. Just my 2 cents from talking with a few guys
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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hey Badmunky, just contact them and let them know you want a set, not sure how long they would take, and you can get the fronts seperate from the rears.

aaron
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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I have had contact with KVR Performance (not sure how many people have heard of them). They are a well reputed Canadian company, but not very "famous" outside of the road racing community. They have done work directly for GM and were the developer of the Grand Prix G-Force concept car's brake system and helped develop the GXP Grand Prix's brakes for GM. They carry very high end braking systems for all makes/models of cars. They have 2 types of kits, usually....a pieced together kit from compatible OEM parts, or PBR quality parts (usually $1200 - $1400 per axle) and an AP Racing all-out kit that usually runs $2500-$2800 per axle (depending on application).

Currently. they make rotors for our cars and have just completed assembling a big brake kit as well. Their rotors are stock size and are cross-drilled or slotted - depending on your application. I can speak for their quality and durability 100%, since that is what I have run on my Grand Prix for many years.

You are looking at $140 / per rotor for the front and about $123 / per rotor for the rear. There are 2 types of coatings available as well. There is a Gold/Silver/Black cadmium coating that runs an additional $18 per rotor, or an more durable, OEM heavy duty style coating (not sure of the name) that runs for $45/rotor. They will be coming out with their carbon fiber brake pads as well in about 2 months. They are also a Goodridge stainless steel brake line dealer and those will be available after SEMA this year (in about October) - I contacted Goodridge directly and that is what they told me.

They have a 13" big brake kit for the car that uses PBR aluminum calipers (similar to the C5 calipers) with all the hardware and SS brake lines once the brake lines become available. The testing is complete and they will run between $1250 - $1450 for the fronts (no rear big brake kits are planned, since they believe that a bigger, larger rear kit would only add weight and no noticible performance gains). The price range is due to being able to offer a 2-piece rotor, if requested (the $1450 price).

There are no plans to offer an AP Racing brake kit for these cars, since they require certain clearance with the wheels and the wheel selection just isn't available.

I know this sounds expensive for brakes, but I can personally attest that the quality is amazing - these are not your silly e-bay rotors and pads that many people waste their money on. They spend a lot of time and money with R&D to assure us that this is the best option for our application. You get what you pay for....

I will be running their products, once I need my 5th brake job (4 brake jobs in 14400 miles), probably sooner than later. This should end my miserable brake problems once and for all.

Just an FYI...
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Anyone thats up grading and wants to sell their stock REAR rotors and possibly the calipers please let me know. Looking to upgrade the HHR rear drums. Discs are NOT an option on these things! Thanks!
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Maybe my opinion will change if I have problems, but I think that the OEM brakes are awesome. My only complaint is some dust on the rims in the front but the stopping distances are on par with much more expensive sports cars. Just as a little FYI, here are some numbers I found in R&T:

2005 Cobalt SS/SC-60-0(118ft) 80-0(212ft)
2006 C6 Z06-60-0(118ft) 80-0(203ft)
2005 Lotus Elise-60-0(115ft) 80-0(203ft)

I know these are just some random comparisons and there are plenty of cars that have better systems, but I couldn't find anything with $20,000 of our price tag that was comparable. Perhaps the durability is not up to racing specs but I wouldn't know what else really needs major improvement. I am satisfied.
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