Meth Questions
www.enginerunup.com - don't expect much for customer service (by e-mail only and they rarely reply) but they've got kits there to do it and for the most part they're run off the boost pressure switch that's on that site.
Does This system Void Warranty from GM
Originally Posted by Jim@Tagracecraft
on our kit, the water/meth injection is activated by a pressure switch installed just before the bypass actuator. Our kit also includes a LED light which is installed inside the vehicle so you know when it's running.
You can find more info here:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/water-meth-install-today-40662/
You can find more info here:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/water-meth-install-today-40662/
Originally Posted by Jim@Tagracecraft
All depend on the dealer I guess Interms of warrenty
I have heard of dealers voiding warrenty with a simple intake food for thought
jim
I have heard of dealers voiding warrenty with a simple intake food for thought
jim
I got the snow performace system with the maf reader, which i like a bit better then the boost switch, if i am going up a hill and hit a certain psi it will not spray, but if you have a boost switch (set at say 8psi) if your going up hill and you hit 8psi, you will spray.
I have the Snow Performance kit with the GM-MAF.. i like it better as well because it reads the MAF and comes on at a certain rpm based on what the MAF frequency is for that certain rpm. it's a variable spray so if you go WOT it'll spray more because it's reading more air from the MAF if your just crusing it won't spray that much when u go past that certain rpm
I have been thinking about installing a meth kit on my car and was wondering if it is hard to install, if i could do it myself, and if i need any thing else besides the kit. Also how often do u have to refill the tank? (as in how often do u find yourself refilling i understand that if u rarely or if ever get at WOT or even drive aggressive you can make it last a while)
I refill mine every couple weeks. Depends how much hard driving I do. I did it myself and I didn't think it was too bad. Worst thing was planning the routing of the wiring and meth line since I mounted the tank in the trunk.
Edit:Also, my kit came with everything. Some kits you buy you may need to tap into your stock washer fluid tank or buy a seperate tank. Mine came with a tank plus this way I can run a high meth % mix if I want.
Edit:Also, my kit came with everything. Some kits you buy you may need to tap into your stock washer fluid tank or buy a seperate tank. Mine came with a tank plus this way I can run a high meth % mix if I want.
Originally Posted by crossed over
meth kicks in at certain boost, so pretty much if your giving it or close to it. also meth is windshield washer fluid with a 50/50 mix of water.
from what im reading tags kit is after the supercharger, with defeats the purpose of the water in the mixture, thats designed to evaporate in the supercharger making a cooling effect creatying more oxygen. The methanol doesnt evapporate but is used to boost octane levels... i hate the stupid after s/c kits...what a waste.
gains u see are those related to the fact that since u have lower intake temps you can crank up the boost and not have to worry about knock whereas w/o it you would have had to be concerned at those boost levels. you can use pretty much any supercooled gas / atomized liquid to the same end. there are cryO2 kits for this, alky kits, etc etc
Originally Posted by mattyfinch
from what im reading tags kit is after the supercharger, with defeats the purpose of the water in the mixture, thats designed to evaporate in the supercharger making a cooling effect creatying more oxygen. The methanol doesnt evapporate but is used to boost octane levels... i hate the stupid after s/c kits...what a waste.
First off I recommend you do some reading, Jim's got a great article on the stuff
http://www.tagracecraft.com/Water_Injection.pdf
if you notice the article states:
"Water is generally introduced to the induction system after the turbo-charger and before the throttle
body" or in our case after the SC
"The introduction of water into the induction charge will immediately absorb heat from the charge thereby increasing its density. Evaporation of the water at this point is unlikely or very minor. The induction charge can at a maximum reach 100% relative humidity and will stabilize at an equilibrium state that is governed by temperature of the charge exiting the turbo and the relative humidity of the ambient air. At full saturation the induction charge will have a significantly reduced temperature somewhere between the ambient temperature and the temperature of the injected water. This heat absorption is achieved primarily through the water's specific heat very little vaporization will occur at this point. The boiling point of water is higher than most charges exiting the turbo and the cooling
effect of the water will reduce even the hottest charges without significant vaporization and never beyond the point of saturation and equilibrium."
next you might want to stop spraying 80% meth into your supercharger 1. cause your going to cook your rotors 2. cause the pump is only designed for a 50% max mix.
and lastly get that fake number off your sig. before I drive over there and woop you.
Originally Posted by Mase
lol, you have no idea what your talking about, oh and btw I got my money back from my credit card, thanks for trying to screw me.
First off I recommend you do some reading, Jim's got a great article on the stuff
http://www.tagracecraft.com/Water_Injection.pdf
if you notice the article states:
"Water is generally introduced to the induction system after the turbo-charger and before the throttle
body" or in our case after the SC
"The introduction of water into the induction charge will immediately absorb heat from the charge thereby increasing its density. Evaporation of the water at this point is unlikely or very minor. The induction charge can at a maximum reach 100% relative humidity and will stabilize at an equilibrium state that is governed by temperature of the charge exiting the turbo and the relative humidity of the ambient air. At full saturation the induction charge will have a significantly reduced temperature somewhere between the ambient temperature and the temperature of the injected water. This heat absorption is achieved primarily through the water's specific heat very little vaporization will occur at this point. The boiling point of water is higher than most charges exiting the turbo and the cooling
effect of the water will reduce even the hottest charges without significant vaporization and never beyond the point of saturation and equilibrium."
next you might want to stop spraying 80% meth into your supercharger 1. cause your going to cook your rotors 2. cause the pump is only designed for a 50% max mix.
and lastly get that fake number off your sig. before I drive over there and woop you.
First off I recommend you do some reading, Jim's got a great article on the stuff
http://www.tagracecraft.com/Water_Injection.pdf
if you notice the article states:
"Water is generally introduced to the induction system after the turbo-charger and before the throttle
body" or in our case after the SC
"The introduction of water into the induction charge will immediately absorb heat from the charge thereby increasing its density. Evaporation of the water at this point is unlikely or very minor. The induction charge can at a maximum reach 100% relative humidity and will stabilize at an equilibrium state that is governed by temperature of the charge exiting the turbo and the relative humidity of the ambient air. At full saturation the induction charge will have a significantly reduced temperature somewhere between the ambient temperature and the temperature of the injected water. This heat absorption is achieved primarily through the water's specific heat very little vaporization will occur at this point. The boiling point of water is higher than most charges exiting the turbo and the cooling
effect of the water will reduce even the hottest charges without significant vaporization and never beyond the point of saturation and equilibrium."
next you might want to stop spraying 80% meth into your supercharger 1. cause your going to cook your rotors 2. cause the pump is only designed for a 50% max mix.
and lastly get that fake number off your sig. before I drive over there and woop you.
I think it just depends on what you want, I have often thought a two stage system would be the best. One nozzle before the S/C and one after. Then just run two smaller nozzles. From an ease of install POV it doesn't get any easier than a preblower kit.


