one of my buddies has one from a total car...will it work on my car..as far as bolt ons go?i do mean the supercharger...

 

from what i hear the charher wont fit...

but i dont see why not....

 

The charger would fit with modifications

But you need tuning so dont waste your time doing it right now

 

do an interior swap and you will win

 

short answer: No

 

swap in the entire engine and it is possible. Entire engine means PCM too

 

if you swap the whole motor and pcm dont forget about cluster cause the speedo wont work

 

it would work but i wouldnt suggest just dropping the charger in cause the stock 2.2 l61 rods and pistons are very weak i would do a complete motor charger pcm swap

 

I have a 2.0 for sale if your interested (motor that is)

 

yea it will work ive seen it done all you need is a few mods and a ss engine calaboration and also the 2.2l engines are stronger than the ss 2.0l so it can handle it

 

wow since when did the 2.2 have stronger capacity then a 2.0?

obviously the 2.0 is stronger... lol.... cuz it has a SUPARCHARGAR!!!!!


sorry, but the 2.2 rods and pistons are deff weaker then the 2.0

from what i heard around here the 2.0 engine is capable of handling up to 400=500 hp?

 

wow since when did the 2.2 have stronger capacity then a 2.0?

obviously the 2.0 is stronger... lol.... cuz it has a SUPARCHARGAR!!!!!


sorry, but the 2.2 rods and pistons are deff weaker then the 2.0

from what i heard around here the 2.0 engine is capable of handling up to 400=500 hp?

 

wow, you guys are all full of whack info here...

1) You cannot swap out the 2.0 engine into the 2.2... there are too many things controlled by the computer in this car and it will not work... and no, you cannot just swap out the computer because it's different in teh 2.0 and 2.2

2) the 2.0 is the same engine as the 2.2, with some differences, if that makes sense

 

why not just buy a 2.0? theyre more attractive anyways

 

too bad the driver of your car is ugly as ****.

the 2.0L is stronger than the 2.2 bottom end but the 2.0 is not good for more than 300ish whp without a piston and headgasket swap.

the 2.2 is good for 250ish whp without a piston/rod upgrade.

 

So all around the 2.0l is stronger. o yea, and the lsj is good for more than 300whp. Your just regurgitating info you have heard, because you probably don't have all that much expierence with them yourself do you?

 

who cares which engine is stronge?? THEY"RE BOTH THE SAME ENGINE!! the 2.0 has a few upgrades, but it's the same damn engine

 

No, a stock LSJ is NOT good for more than 300-325hp. There have been SEVERAL people on this site who have blown headgaskets on that much power. Also, according to the build book, the pistons are good for 300 hp.

 

Wow, people quote the build book like its the damn bible. What happen to the days of going out, building something, and if it blew up you just build it better and stronger for next time?

And yes, you can swap the computer. However you better have an EE degree, and an incredible ammount of patience. After that, your going to need a Tech 2, a Candi, acces to GMTIS2000, and then you'll have to find a way for to access the 2.0 programming with a 2.2L VIN. Its not easy.

Why not just put the 2.0L engine in for now, without the supercharger. Then when HP Tuners or EFI Edit or whoever is going to produce software for this car does, then you bolt the blower on and retune the stock ECU to run with a blower.

 

im not sure what he is saying.. but it sounds a little bit like he is calling me ugly.. not sure though.. someone clarify

 

Boo-hoo-hoo. :'(

Now that we're done crying, are you going to let him do that to you!?

 

of course the LSJ is stronger, its running 12lbs of boost right out of the factory.

and no I'm not just running my mouth...its been stated by GM (which means it can probably take more but for how long?) and its also been proven by LSJ owners. All it takes is a look around the forums to figure this out.

there have been guys that have taken a stock bottom end L61 to 280whp but doesn't mean its the smartest or most realiable thing to do. This is why I said 300ish whp...build your car upwards of this power level and maybe I'll believe u.

 

The LSJ is very strong. The components that make it strong, for the most part, can directly swap to the L61. Not all parts are a direct swap. The pistons, for example, are rated higher in the LSJ than the L61, but they can be swapped.

The GM Build Book for the Cobalt is based on a 2.2L motor. It immediately recommends nitrous and forced induction even though tuning is not available. I believe the displacement difference makes a big difference in why they used the 2.2L motor instead of the 2.0L.

Since the engines are so incredibly similar, I have to wonder why this matters. Really, who cares?

 

good question, I don't

hasn't stopped me any

just wanted to address the 2.2L is stronger than the 2.0L comment since technically its not...

 

I don't really put a huge ammount of stock into the build book... but... they swap out the crank for the LSJ one early in the build, because it is stronger, and that lowers the displacement to 2.0l, so your speculation on the displacement is incorrect. Less stroke means you can rev the engine a lot faster, more reliably, and that generally means more power.

The rods are also a lot stronger. I've heard (unfortunately no personal experience on this one) that the L61 rods give out at around 280hp, while the LSJ rods are good for probably twice that.