are there gonna be like Stage 1 Stage 2 Stage 3 supercharger? or do we have to wait until they make one or what ever?

I doubt it, but that's a good idea. I've said it before, I really hope GM provides some aftermarket options and support for the Cobalt.

i have a feeling that they will have turbo kits for 2.0 instead of supercharger but im not too sure but i just have a feeling that they will have it by end of next summer :) hopefully boost up 300hp

GM is supposedly fully supporting the Ecotec platform with various parts. I'm assuming, since it's performance related, it'll be rods, pistons, potentially cams and perhaps T/C or S/C alternatives/mods. Maybe exhaust. Who knows. The article I read about it wasn't very forthcoming.

The bottom end supposedly very strongly built already, but of course even stronger is better. I hope that they offer some good t/ or s/ charger upgrades and the corresponding computer engine management upgrades for the car that will really boost power.

The bottom end supposedly very strongly built already, but of course even stronger is better. I hope that they offer some good t/ or s/ charger upgrades and the corresponding computer engine management upgrades for the car that will really boost power.

It would seem half-ass if they didn't offer SOME parts, considering just about every other car company has a racing development/performance team selling parts. Some under warranty, others not. But, really...that's becoming part of the market. Not only offering a cheap, but sporty and quick platform to build on, but parts to compliment from the factory.

Exactly. I'm thinking that GM needs to do this in order to viably compete against DCX and the Mopar support they offer for the SRT-4.

gm has already put out plenty of performance parts for the ecotec platform, which are on the 2.0 (most of them), they already have a wicked intake manifold that bolts up to the 75mm ls1 tb

gm has already put out plenty of performance parts for the ecotec platform, which are on the 2.0 (most of them), they already have a wicked intake manifold that bolts up to the 75mm ls1 tb

Any more information on this? That's a HUGE TB for a 2.0 engine. But if you have the airflow..I suppose it's justified. Sounds like S/C only, however. And...there'd need to be some ECU/fuel mods for sure to accomodate more air.

ahhh this suck why cant I post attachments
hope this works the itake manifold is on this page along with othe stuff
Ecotec performance parts (http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfpartsjsp/partlist.jsp?cat=9284&section=pp)

thats if u want to build it as an all out race car. most people want street performance. hope gm didnt mess up by not making the engine internals capable of holding 4 or 500 hp, damn the mitsu 4g63 is capable of the 450whp mark and gm did build the 2.0 for performance so lets hope they built a stock bottom end to be able to handle 400-500whp. would be nice.

I heard the stock 2.2 ecotec bottom end can take 300hp+ easy so the 2.0 should be able to take 400hp especially with its forged crankshaft

stock 2.2 crank can handle around 350 rods and pistons go out at 280.

I'd love to know how GM raised the rev limiter and reprogrammed the ECU to take numbers up to around 270 hp for the SEMA Cobalt, hell with CAI and pulley if i could do that! lol

7000+ RPM is really sweet. Just so I'm sure, if the ECU allows boost to keep building by not opening the bypass valve, just the extra RPM of the engine allows boost to build higher then 12PSI (16) without needing a smaller pully, right?

We will offer staged upgrade kits - 15, 18, and 21psi. The motor will handle it.

Obviously we're in the same boat as the rest of you - waiting for the car to be shipped so we can start testing prototypes. Nothing available yet, but stay tuned...

We will offer staged upgrade kits - 15, 18, and 21psi. The motor will handle it.

Obviously we're in the same boat as the rest of you - waiting for the car to be shipped so we can start testing prototypes. Nothing available yet, but stay tuned...

sounds good to me, why not start with the Redline? will essentially be the same car! that way you can have upgrades when the cobalt comes out

We will offer staged upgrade kits - 15, 18, and 21psi. The motor will handle it.

Obviously we're in the same boat as the rest of you - waiting for the car to be shipped so we can start testing prototypes. Nothing available yet, but stay tuned...

Perfect. That's what I want, as long as I can be sure I won't have big reliability issues.

I doubt it, but that's a good idea. I've said it before, I really hope GM provides some aftermarket options and support for the Cobalt.

i hope so 2

to my understanding there are stages for the supercharger, 2-4 by changing pulleys injectors and tons of other things i cant remember right now. I was pretty sure I read it on this forum if not check one of the other forums, i know i have read it.

The question is whether they will install the stage kits at the dealer or at the plant if you order it with the car. I would be annoyed if I ordered an SS and later when they offered the kits it was from the plant so you can't get them...

damn the mitsu 4g63 is capable of the 450whp mark

I'm running over 400whp on my stock internals. I only had to mod the fuel & air system to run that much.

yes they are making upgrade kits for SS us redline guys r using yall for parts :D
Gm will have stage 1-4 one kit being a suspension setup! all under warrenty

here is the link props to Zfactor :cool:

http://www.******************/forums/showthread.php?t=2481


enjoy :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

If this is indeed true, this is going to be awesome!!!! This is the news I've been waiting to hear.

thats awsome but i need to see it to believe it. hope it does come true, i would like to see a possible turbo swap for it producing over 300whp will be much nice.

I'm going to the local library today...when I go to sleep and wake up again to check this out and see if I can rent it and scan it in. I'll keep you guys posted.

vendian how you make that lil movie can you make one with my redline :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

i figure if GM is not going to make a stage kit for there eaton roots blower then i would have my own setup for the 2.2L Eco's...

here's my Stage's
http://www.speedmafia.com/cars/SportCompactsCars.htm

Here is the stats on the procharger units i run on the Eco's, the C-1 and C-2 Head Unit.

www.speedmafia.com/Models.htm

Kevin

GM will install a stage 2 kit for 280whp

GM will install a stage 2 kit for 280whp

Yep..here in the future.

yes but when ^^^ i want to know when.

talked with a friend and he said 16months?

16 months? good god thats for ever, well probably not thats probably when the cobalt ss will be at every dealer lol, thats at the current rate. would have liked it sooner. do you have any specs of the stage kits? ie hp/tq gains? rpm increase so on and so forth.

talked with a friend and he said 16months?

well a dealer around me promised late summer

Well, given GM's track record..

Late Summer = 16 months from now. :lol:

yah late summer is 16 months from now except they forgot to tell you next year

Well, given GM's track record..

Late Summer = 16 months from now. :lol:

I am with Nightcrawler regarding GM's concept of time. Right now it's Late Fall 2004 at GM HQ.

I am with Nightcrawler regarding GM's concept of time. Right now it's Late Fall 2004 at GM HQ.


yep, i agree with you guys, i was told last summer, but if i had to guess, i would say winter/spring

south florida pullies and a boost a pump fuel system by kenny bell this adjust 50% more fuel.
suposedly a guy did this with a 2.pound boost he got 248.@the wheels
no ses lights.?

i wish they had something as good as a s/c or tubro for the 2.2 that is affordable and under warranty... but we all know, im just dreaming.

according to the ecotec engine builder's handbook the lsj stock is good for 400 - 500 hp not actually expressed this is what i gathered from the book. i may be wrong if i am someone correct me. you can download the handbooks from the gmtunersource website here gm tuner source (http://www.gmtunersource.com) you need acrobat reader to view the files after you download them it tells you about swapping the lsj bottom end parts into the 2.2 block to make a 500 hp rotating assembly but im assuming the stock cams and valvetrain on the 2.0 would have to ve upgraded to make this type of power on an lsj plus porting and a valve job and all that bs, but it looks to me that gm made an IMPORT KILLER it just needs to be let out of its cage


black with blue/black interior , should be picked on the 17th of july assuming production goes well