tired of no options for forced induction? Tired of having to rely on simple bolt ons for minimal power addding? tired of your friend bragging about his turbo or s/c'd honda? tired of everyone saying the 2.4 cant handle boost? want a solution that will fix all of this?

......well heres your chance....post up in here what type of forced induction you are looking for....

with enough interest shown...i believe that we can show the thread to a company and see if they can help us out....i know there is enough interest out there ...so everyone come and put it in here

wether you want a supercharged torque monster or power from high rpm range turbo setups....this is the place to put it....so lets make this happen guys because this is the only way anything is going to happen as far as a FI kit/tune is going to happen

SHOW INTEREST!!!!!

 

we can already buy any turbo kit for the cobalt 2.2 and use hp tuners to tune it. thats what im doing on the 24th.

 

I would be interested in the easiest to install (aren't super chargers generally easier to install?)

and a compllete kit with tuning.

Also I am not interested in huge power increases as I beleive it would compromise the reliabilty, longeivit of the enigne and related parts.

Perhaps asome kind of staged kits. I'd be prety happy with 60 hp/60 tq

 

this i am well aware of...but im talking about a kit designed specifically for our cars

yes i agree...i would much rather have a roots type supercharger kit for our cars...simply because it would add a nice amount of power...and are easily uprgradible down the road...besides im only looking for about 300whp by the time i have completed my goal....which includes complete rebuild of the engine....

ROOTS TYPE SUPERCHARGER FTW

 

I love the supercharger kit that Speed Mafia makes for the 2.2 Ions. It utilizes a Procharger centifrugal supercharger, which is awesome! I'd love to see this kit made specifically for the 2.4 Cobalts, so I wouldn't need to fab custom mounts (the Ion's fenders and headlight placement are different then us balts) and require a ton of tuning to overwrite the 2.4's engine timing.

 

The turbo kit for the 2.2L is literaly designed for our car. Not only will you benefit more from the t/c than a 2.2L, you will have faster spool up than a 2.2L. If the power is not what your looking for, you can ALWAYS contact me to buy a turbocharger itself for cheap (unless you want to go buy a used one off of ebay).


As for the roots supercharger, yes a supercharger would be nice for these cars, and would benefit more than the 2.0, however it is not easily upgraded down the line. Although it is easier to maintain (because you dont really have to maintain it), it does add a bit more stress onto your engine due to the belt driven settup.

A Turbocharger is more efficient than a supercharger (doesnt require any engine power to run) vs a supercharger runs off of the belt which adds to the parasytic loss.

But I do host the turbocharger kits for the 2.2 (which work for the 2.4) on my website at www.tntautosport.com/store/

In all honesty though, the reason why you dont see turbocharged 2.4's is because nobody wants to spend the money to try.

 

i agree with you for the most part....the tune is the problem

 

has anyone looked into rotrex superchargers??
i know they make universal supercharger kits.

 

yea...but i don thtink too many on here are worried about rotrex kits..id go turbo if it came to that...

 

Whats the bottom line price on the garret essentials kit tnt?

 

In my opinion, I think that a supercharger would be the easier less maintinence way to go. I am not really looking for turbo due to the fact of oil lines, manifold.......the whole thing. But in all honesty, turbo seems the easier way to go. There is no real support for us yet. And if your that antsy like me then turbo it out.

 

If I can achieve about 270 hp on a budget less than 4k, I'd purchase the product

 

D.i.y.

 

I agree. All the extra work that goes into turbo'ing a car just dosen't seem worth it to me. Supercharging is the way to go in my opinion. But for now, I intend on staying n/a.

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha be prepared to sped about 5-10k before you even think about adding power

 

wow, gory with smartslike that, you could be the president!!!!!!!



gmpp makes a m62 supercharger kit (same as ss/sc) that will fit in our cars but lack the tunning. the supercharger kit can be found at paceperformance for $2700.

 

I'm one for a supercharger just because i love the feel of all that low end torque throwing me to the back of my seat n when does anyone really need all that power at higher gears n rpm its rare anyone really goes over like 100 in a street race anyway

if u go to the track then thats a different story

 

Actually, I'm going with a turbo because I like that low-end kick. For the street, low-end torque is better than high-end HP.

A supercharger makes power in direct proportion to RPM. The more you rev, the more power it makes. It makes peak boost at redline.

A well-designed turbocharger set-up will make peak boost at less than full throttle and at mid-RPMs (like 3000 RPM). This gives max torque much lower in the rev range.

The reason "modern" turbo set-ups seem to make no low-end power is because they're designed to produce huge power increases for drag racing, so they won't spool up without a lot of exhaust running through them. Plus big intercoolers create a huge amount of turbo lag. If all you want is low ETs, go with a huge supercharger or turbocharger. If you want it to be drivable on the street, smaller is better, and modest gains make great improvements in mid-range torque. Plus the rest of the car might not grenade on you when you hit the gas.

Alpine will soon have a kit specifically for the 2.4 that's built for the street, not for drag racing. It will be designed to work with either the 5-speed or the auto. How soon? Well before summer, and hopefully before Tax Day.

 

well does this kit include a reliable tune of some sort?...how long have they been working on it and how reputable are they really?

 

lets not change this into a SC VS TURBO THREAD... only post if you are interested, thanks.

Like before, I am interested

 

yea lets keep it to interest..not which is better..im trying to get this thread stickied...

 

Quote: Originally Posted by Spectral
has anyone looked into rotrex superchargers??
i know they make universal supercharger kits.
yea...but i don thtink too many on here are worried about rotrex kits..id go turbo if it came to that...
Actually one is waiting for CARB approval right now. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
As for turbo vs. S/C: The Rotrex is about 1/3 the size of a Procharger S/C, produces higher volume/pressure and is as efficient as some of the best turbos on the market.

 

Stop Talking About Turbos And Superchargers. Just List Your Name If You Are Interested! Goddamn Some People Hijack Threads So Easily

 

bump for interest

 

This is my first post on this site and Im definitely into this F/I idea. Someone needs to get on it, supercharger is the last item on my upgrades list