gmpp vs. aftermarket
gmpp vs. aftermarket
alright guys, just looking for some input. lately i've been all about the gm stage 2 upgrade to keep the warranty, but after seeing so many people barely hitting 13.9, it makes me want to rethink my thoughts. keeping the warranty would be nice, as i'm in school and probably couldn't afford a blown motor, but i realize i could get way more speed with some hptuners and a 2.7 and still be fairly reliable. (granted the tune is good). another problem i might have is finding a place to install this stuff where i am. can anybody try to somewhat lead me, explain to me what the process is on getting some tuning into the car and what not? i've read countless threads and still can't make up my mind cause i dont know exactly how it works. any advice/ help is appreciated
alright guys, just looking for some input. lately i've been all about the gm stage 2 upgrade to keep the warranty, but after seeing so many people barely hitting 13.9, it makes me want to rethink my thoughts. keeping the warranty would be nice, as i'm in school and probably couldn't afford a blown motor, but i realize i could get way more speed with some hptuners and a 2.7 and still be fairly reliable. (granted the tune is good). another problem i might have is finding a place to install this stuff where i am. can anybody try to somewhat lead me, explain to me what the process is on getting some tuning into the car and what not? i've read countless threads and still can't make up my mind cause i dont know exactly how it works. any advice/ help is appreciated 

I got 15 lbs of boost from my stage 2 kit, and now I am getting 16.5 lbs with my stage pulley.
I'd put priorities and possiblilities over your wants. Like you said, you can't afford anything if your engine goes on you...this is the risk you run with when you start re-engineering.
I think you'll live if you're a little slower than you want to be rather than having no money for a engine rebuild, no warranty to do it for a free and no running vehicle.
I think you'll live if you're a little slower than you want to be rather than having no money for a engine rebuild, no warranty to do it for a free and no running vehicle.
alright guys, just looking for some input. lately i've been all about the gm stage 2 upgrade to keep the warranty, but after seeing so many people barely hitting 13.9, it makes me want to rethink my thoughts. keeping the warranty would be nice, as i'm in school and probably couldn't afford a blown motor, but i realize i could get way more speed with some hptuners and a 2.7 and still be fairly reliable. (granted the tune is good). another problem i might have is finding a place to install this stuff where i am. can anybody try to somewhat lead me, explain to me what the process is on getting some tuning into the car and what not? i've read countless threads and still can't make up my mind cause i dont know exactly how it works. any advice/ help is appreciated 

i'm local and sell the stage 2 kits for 562.50, you wouldn't have to pay shipping and my dealership does the install pretty frequently
i have to say i agree with you njhk, but after going to the track and seeing a stage 2 balt run a faster time than me only twice, kinda makes me think. keep in mind i only have the injen. i actually beat him one time. anyway, i'll do some thinking..and ozer you know who i am, we met at the sonic meet and i friended you on facebook. i'll keep in touch to get all that done..probably within the next few weeks since its getting nice out and all.
saving money for an evo is also a possibility, although i love the ss.
saving money for an evo is also a possibility, although i love the ss.
i have to say i agree with you njhk, but after going to the track and seeing a stage 2 balt run a faster time than me only twice, kinda makes me think. keep in mind i only have the injen. i actually beat him one time. anyway, i'll do some thinking..and ozer you know who i am, we met at the sonic meet and i friended you on facebook. i'll keep in touch to get all that done..probably within the next few weeks since its getting nice out and all.
saving money for an evo is also a possibility, although i love the ss.
saving money for an evo is also a possibility, although i love the ss.
sure did. not ragging on him because he is a member here, just using it as an example. i ran a 14.5 and he ran 14.7. you can see my fastest slip in the gallery, not bad for the first time at the track.
UmeNNis:
by the way we are basically the farthest north you can go in delaware. its a pretty long drive..
UmeNNis:
by the way we are basically the farthest north you can go in delaware. its a pretty long drive..
hey, I'm based out of Winner automotive group, Saturns in newark de and west chester PA. I even got a tech who will install it for you for 200.00 including flash
alright guys, just looking for some input. lately i've been all about the gm stage 2 upgrade to keep the warranty, but after seeing so many people barely hitting 13.9, it makes me want to rethink my thoughts. keeping the warranty would be nice, as i'm in school and probably couldn't afford a blown motor, but i realize i could get way more speed with some hptuners and a 2.7 and still be fairly reliable. (granted the tune is good). another problem i might have is finding a place to install this stuff where i am. can anybody try to somewhat lead me, explain to me what the process is on getting some tuning into the car and what not? i've read countless threads and still can't make up my mind cause i dont know exactly how it works. any advice/ help is appreciated 




sure did. not ragging on him because he is a member here, just using it as an example. i ran a 14.5 and he ran 14.7. you can see my fastest slip in the gallery, not bad for the first time at the track.
UmeNNis:
by the way we are basically the farthest north you can go in delaware. its a pretty long drive..
UmeNNis:
by the way we are basically the farthest north you can go in delaware. its a pretty long drive..
Tune time in tom's river n.j. is a really good shop, and they are supporting vendors of this site
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yea..we'll see what i decide to do. if i decide to gmpp then i'll just get the dealer to do it. if i go with a smaller pulley and what not i'll let you know. gotta see exactly how tight the money is going to be.
come up to jersey... i'll install the stuff for free



north deleware isn't far from where i am in south jersey. i'll do the install... but then you have to have it tuned..
Tune time in tom's river n.j. is a really good shop, and they are supporting vendors of this site



north deleware isn't far from where i am in south jersey. i'll do the install... but then you have to have it tuned..
Tune time in tom's river n.j. is a really good shop, and they are supporting vendors of this site
just a thought.. but seeing as you are worried about your motor and warranty, i would say go with GM parts.
in the future i will help you install anything that i know how to do.. p.m. me before you go and spend $80 or more per hour for a parts install
thanks appreciate it!
what i may do is go with the gmstg2 and then put on a 2.9 seeing as the tune is pig rich anyway. and then get the gmpp performance exhaust and be done for a while until the warranty is up. safe to go 2.9 on the tune from what i've read? any objections?
what i may do is go with the gmstg2 and then put on a 2.9 seeing as the tune is pig rich anyway. and then get the gmpp performance exhaust and be done for a while until the warranty is up. safe to go 2.9 on the tune from what i've read? any objections?
thanks appreciate it!
what i may do is go with the gmstg2 and then put on a 2.9 seeing as the tune is pig rich anyway. and then get the gmpp performance exhaust and be done for a while until the warranty is up. safe to go 2.9 on the tune from what i've read? any objections?
what i may do is go with the gmstg2 and then put on a 2.9 seeing as the tune is pig rich anyway. and then get the gmpp performance exhaust and be done for a while until the warranty is up. safe to go 2.9 on the tune from what i've read? any objections?alright guys, just looking for some input. lately i've been all about the gm stage 2 upgrade to keep the warranty, but after seeing so many people barely hitting 13.9, it makes me want to rethink my thoughts. keeping the warranty would be nice, as i'm in school and probably couldn't afford a blown motor, but i realize i could get way more speed with some hptuners and a 2.7 and still be fairly reliable. (granted the tune is good). another problem i might have is finding a place to install this stuff where i am. can anybody try to somewhat lead me, explain to me what the process is on getting some tuning into the car and what not? i've read countless threads and still can't make up my mind cause i dont know exactly how it works. any advice/ help is appreciated 

yea my mods without the intake.... it was 90 something degress with somewhere around 95% humidty... standing proof that all those people saying their times are shiity at high altitude, they wish they could be at sea level....
pray to be at sea level no humidity and cool lol
the car is noticeably faster now with just a new tune from DOC
gotcha..yea that was me last week. basically not much over sea level and it was like 35 degrees or so. my 60' was 2.31 or something but i ended up at 14.22 at 101 with just the intake. so yea theres proof
i have to say i agree with you njhk, but after going to the track and seeing a stage 2 balt run a faster time than me only twice, kinda makes me think. keep in mind i only have the injen. i actually beat him one time. anyway, i'll do some thinking..and ozer you know who i am, we met at the sonic meet and i friended you on facebook. i'll keep in touch to get all that done..probably within the next few weeks since its getting nice out and all.
saving money for an evo is also a possibility, although i love the ss.
saving money for an evo is also a possibility, although i love the ss.
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