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Mikecobalt
09-05-2005, 02:45 PM
This was the first time I ever set foot on a drag course. I made 3 attempts first 2 were 15.5 but with a lot of tire spinning.
my last one in detail was:
RT= 0.914
60 feet= 2.374
MPH= 94.73
ET = 14.709

I was pretty please with the number since it was my first time, I think that with practice i can improve a lot my launching,
I took a picture of my slip but I can't put it here, Im bad with computer sorry..I put it in my gallery tho for proof Im on the right
Bye guy's
http://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=1486

MarcS
09-05-2005, 03:11 PM
Nice :thumb:

Keep up the good work!

Hot Carls R/T
09-05-2005, 03:11 PM
Good Time man...with a little practice you'll get better times...Just try easing the car out at 1500rpm or so....I ran a 2.201 60ft with a 14.5 at 98.50mph at Cayuga (T.O Motorsport Park.) :-D

MarcS
09-05-2005, 03:15 PM
I'd love to see a Cobalt SS run with DR's

MacG321
09-05-2005, 03:18 PM
nice time man... are you running bone stock?

Mikecobalt
09-05-2005, 03:20 PM
thanks your right the tricky part is the start have to get some more traction and some practice

HOT CARLs great time nice job

Mikecobalt
09-05-2005, 03:21 PM
yeah I only did the airbox modification to put a cone filter on there, other tahn that my SS is bone stock

MikeSS
09-05-2005, 03:56 PM
As has been said, good times man! With a 60' of 2.1 or so, you should get that down around 14.4

Keep up the good work.

Hot Carls R/T
09-05-2005, 04:10 PM
Are you going too the meet today?

06performpacSS
09-05-2005, 04:13 PM
Mid to high 14's aint bad but still kinda lagging for the power output. It would probably help if the car had a higher redine than a measly 6,450rpm. My SHO runs mid 14's all day long with a quaife and 18's and light mods to the engine. The 8k rev limit helps make the gears last longer. Does your SS have the performance pac with the quaife? I bet this will help dramatically on launches and exiting corners. I swear by the Quaife LSD's. Of course I had to spend $1300 on my SHO's Quaife and install it myself. Drag radials would be nice but a good set of Yoko Advans or BFG KDWS's would help overall grip on these cars. I can't wait to get my 06' SS/SC with Performance pack in December here in Italy. I might try upgrading to some 225/40/zr18 Yoko Advan RT-615's and ditching the Pirellis. These plus the LSD will help takeoff decently.

olddude
09-05-2005, 04:16 PM
Nice times, especially for a first timer with a new car. Outstanding in fact!

The CSS pulls so hard up top that the usual estimate of losing 2/10 off the e.t. for every 1/10 reduction in 60' times seems a bit conservative. I would bet you get 3/10 per 1/10 off your launch. I can't wait to see if simply adding some air bags on the rear will get you in the low 14's.

Mikecobalt
09-05-2005, 05:23 PM
sadly no i don't have the performance pack with lsd, it wasn't available in canada, this sucks hope they don't do the same with the other upgrades...

Darksun
09-06-2005, 12:04 AM
not trying to hate but it seems like everyone in canada runs better times with worse 60' foots and lower traps WTF! Granted it was hot as balls when i went to english town NJ. I wish every tracks slip showed 330' 1000"'and 1/8 mile times so I could compare where other people where making up those extra thenths of a sec . sorry if im complaining just that i really wanted bettween a 14.5 and a 14.7 best i could get is a 14.8. I just dont get it sometimes but i guess every track is different.

astrocrep
09-06-2005, 10:29 AM
when i went to english town NJ

I might be making my way there tomorrow with my Blue SS S/C.

How many runs did you do and how was the track conditions... did you light the tires up before running the track, I was not planning to do that... Any other pointers for a newb's first time at the track.

Thanks,
-Rich

MikeSS
09-06-2005, 11:42 AM
I might be making my way there tomorrow with my Blue SS S/C.

How many runs did you do and how was the track conditions... did you light the tires up before running the track, I was not planning to do that... Any other pointers for a newb's first time at the track.

Thanks,
-Rich

I would (and do) light the tires up before each run. This will get and dirt and crap (grass, stones, oil, etc) off the tires thus giving you better traction off the line. As well, it will put some heat in the tires.

Hot Carls R/T
09-06-2005, 11:49 AM
It depends alot on track conditions and temps. Try too run at night the colder the air the better for the blower + just ease out of the lights not reving the SS up and dumping the clutch thats how I ran a 14.5 but the other run I missed 3rd which would have got me a 14.4 at 98-99mph I will be trying again in two weeks or so..... :-D

astrocrep
09-06-2005, 11:53 AM
I am looking to break into the high 14's... I can shift really fast while keeping the revvs up high... and my launching is also pretty good... I usually get about a 1/2 second of slippage...

As for lighting the tires up before a run... I've heard both good and bad things about it... Also how do you get the tires to spin without the annoying / embarishing wheel hop...

Thanks all,
-Rich

MikeSS
09-06-2005, 12:31 PM
I am looking to break into the high 14's... I can shift really fast while keeping the revvs up high... and my launching is also pretty good... I usually get about a 1/2 second of slippage...

As for lighting the tires up before a run... I've heard both good and bad things about it... Also how do you get the tires to spin without the annoying / embarishing wheel hop...

Thanks all,
-Rich

Feather the clutch when doing it, rev to like 2500-3000rpm and feather out the clutch.

Yes it is not great for the clutch, but if you only are doing it a few times, no big deal.

ChrgdUp
09-06-2005, 12:51 PM
Get rid of wheel hop w/ torque brace, check vendor forum- ironmandevelopments i think

MikeSS
09-06-2005, 01:26 PM
Get rid of wheel hop w/ torque brace, check vendor forum- ironmandevelopments i think

Yes this is a far better idea, and helps out in the long term! Also a solid motor mount will help, it'll make your car shake, but it does help.

Darksun
09-06-2005, 03:37 PM
I might be making my way there tomorrow with my Blue SS S/C.

How many runs did you do and how was the track conditions... did you light the tires up before running the track, I was not planning to do that... Any other pointers for a newb's first time at the track.

Thanks,
-Rich

yeah it was my first time there too all i can say is there is tons of grip there but our cars have a really short first gear so you may get traction then lose it if you go full throttle too soon or don't slip the clutch enough. Also bring a bag of ice for the super charger. my car ran a 15.2 on my first try only thing held me back was my 60 foot but after that run my car was so hot all the time i was running 15.5's to as low as a 16.3 :cry: than a guy with a cobra gave me a bag of ice first run after the ice 14.948 next run with slipping the clutch most of first gear got my 14.806. A 14.8 was my goal when i first decided to get to the track and i got it on my very last run of the night because it got cool but i Think i can nab my 14.5 to 14.6 but i have no idea how im ganna get better 60 foots and raise my trap the extra mph i need to do it.

SS4ME
09-06-2005, 04:13 PM
Nice timed run, similair to mine!!

olddude
09-06-2005, 05:07 PM
than a guy with a cobra gave me a bag of ice first run after the ice 14.948 next run with slipping the clutch most of first gear got my 14.806.

all well and good, except you better be real sure you don't drip water on the track after icing, you get all kinds of condensation under the hood. First off, it can be very dangerous for the serious racers if they hit any water while under way, they can lose traction and control big time, secondly, if any track official worth a spit sees it, you are going to be booted right now. Same thing with running your a/c for you first timers at the track, you drip water, you are not going to be loved by anyone out there. So turn it off before you leave for the drive to a strip and leave it off until you are on your way home.

SS4ME
09-06-2005, 05:22 PM
These people most not have heard of dry ice?

Darksun
09-06-2005, 10:48 PM
all well and good, except you better be real sure you don't drip water on the track after icing, you get all kinds of condensation under the hood. First off, it can be very dangerous for the serious racers if they hit any water while under way, they can lose traction and control big time, secondly, if any track official worth a spit sees it, you are going to be booted right now. Same thing with running your a/c for you first timers at the track, you drip water, you are not going to be loved by anyone out there. So turn it off before you leave for the drive to a strip and leave it off until you are on your way home.

Yeah i hear what your saying i was afraid of dripping water on the track to but the waiting area is around the corner from the actual track and theres about a 20-25 min wait between each run which left plenty of time for my car to cool off and the water to clear up before getting on the actual track.

Nice timed run, similair to mine!!

Yeah thanks but whats bothering me is my trap speeds. if i ran your time with your trap id be like "ok im traping high enough to pull a 14.5 no problem so i'll just work on my 60 foots". But Thats not the case. Basically i was seven hundreths of a second behind you by the end of the quater mile which must look like we where neck and neck if we raced each other. But that means i was ahead of you for all of the race till the last couple of feet where you came from behind with a 2 mph better trap speed and passed me. My question is where the hell are people finding an extra 2 mph to run me down and nose me out by the end of the quater mile in the same car. Usually i would be like ah forget it differnet tracks to many factors but the 1/4 mile times are too close in the end for the traps being that that different. well im going back to the track at the end of september when its a little cooler maybe that will help.

SS4ME
09-07-2005, 08:48 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, was it hot? My actual best quarter mile time was 14.707@95.54mph. It was quit hot that day and when it is hot I usually trap at 95mph. When it is cooler my trap speed rises. For example I once ran a 15.000@98.1mph. Bad traction in first gear. I will give you my best results and you'll notice all kinds of different trap speeds.

1) 14.707@95.54
2) 14.733@97.16
3) 14.791@96.71
4) 14.897@93.21 track temp 119 degrees!
5) 14.964@96.69
6) 15.000@98.10

As you can see, it's all over the place. I wouldn't worry, higher traps will come! :cssNET:

Evilfrog
09-07-2005, 09:38 PM
As far as the ice thing....something i noticed was that our fans kick in when the coolant temp reaches about 221 degrees. Once it hits there it will drop back down to 189 pretty quickly. So turnning it off in the staging lanes isnt helping. Just warms up the engine. Though it does save some gas.

Darksun
09-07-2005, 11:11 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, was it hot? My actual best quarter mile time was 14.707@95.54mph. It was quit hot that day and when it is hot I usually trap at 95mph. When it is cooler my trap speed rises. For example I once ran a 15.000@98.1mph. Bad traction in first gear. I will give you my best results and you'll notice all kinds of different trap speeds.

1) 14.707@95.54
2) 14.733@97.16
3) 14.791@96.71
4) 14.897@93.21 track temp 119 degrees!
5) 14.964@96.69
6) 15.000@98.10

As you can see, it's all over the place. I wouldn't worry, higher traps will come! :cssNET:

Damn you got a 98 trap! hell i would kill for one of those on paper. At least people see a 15 flat 1/4 mile but than the see the high ass trap and are like"oh shit you where moving at the end there buddy". Damn i can't wait to go back to the track im itching now. But thanks for showing me all your times i don't feel as bad now i just gotta try harder next time.