So yeah today I decided to go all out in cleaning my paint

First i started just with the hose got all I could with that, then I took some dish soap and stripped all the shit off my paint. Then I took out the Mothers Claybar kit, thinking it was going to do something, did the whole car, saw no difference. Anyways then i broke out the mothers cleaning wax in the wax form, then did a second coat using the liquid mothers wax, then one ridiclous coat of the Ice wax paste.

Car looks pretty good, but i gotta say im dissapointed in the Claybar, way overhyped on here

I dunno, I use the claybar quite often and it always does a great job. Makes the paint nice and smooth and takes off all the stuff you can't get with water and a sponge....

It will remove any impurities on the paint, spots, roughness, things like that. Should make the finish just about perfectly smooth when done right. Either your car was already in great shape, or you did somethign wrong, i'm voting for the former.

Yeah I guess my paint was already good, w/e

you probably didn't use it right..

I just claybar'ed my car a week ago and it made a BIG difference. The paint is so smooth now. Better check how ya used it.. Unless your car wasnt that bad to begin with..

yeah because its so hard to spray a liquid and rub some playdough across a surface...Yeahh me dumbb

yeah because its so hard to spray a liquid and rub some playdough across a surface...Yeahh me dumbb

it's very easy to not do it right actually, and you said it was your first time... so instead of being sarcastic, and bashing something that has been proven to work for a very long time, learn how to do it the right way.


you're saying it's overhyped... so we just responded no it's NOT overhyped, if you do it properly.

yeah because its so hard to spray a liquid and rub some playdough across a surface...Yeahh me dumbb

ROFL

yeah because its so hard to spray a liquid and rub some playdough across a surface...Yeahh me dumbb

:lol: Nice comeback:twothumbs

:lol: Nice comeback:twothumbs

i don't think it was a nice comeback... because if he's not happy with the outcome, then it's obvious he didn't do it right... either that, or his expectations were way too high

Or I've just taken good care of my paint? Perhaps?

Maybe someone can actually write out some steps here. I did the same thing with the Mother's Claybar thing. However, I did not realize any difference. Maybe im putting down too much lube?:lol: Either way, help would be appreciated.

My suggestion is to let someone who details cars on a regular basis do it for you. Its well worth it, as someone with experience will do it faster and better. It is also possible to damage the paint if you do not know what you are doing. Let someone else clay-bar and do the inital coat of wax, then you can add several coats of wax on top of that. You will have a great, durable finish that will last a long time.

true, ill get one of my friends to do it who know how to claybar a car, and have him teach me. (i like doing everything myself, rarely do I let anyone touch my cars.)

true, ill get one of my friends to do it who know how to claybar a car, and have him teach me. (i like doing everything myself, rarely do I let anyone touch my cars.)

I let the lot manager/head porter at the dealer where I used to work do mine. He also has a yellow SS/SC, and I help him out with anything, he has my old 3" pulley and I installed his intake for him, he lets me come by whenever I want and wash my car. He does real nice work, he just puts very thin coats of wax on. I let him clay the car, which I will be doing again sometime soon, then I wax the hell out of it 3-4 times in the next week or so, gives the car a glowing finish almost at night when the light hits it. God I love my yellow car!!

i use Eagle one wax-n-dry. very nice..

it does a very great job, easy to use and QUICK.
for waxing, i use meshiars

I let the lot manager/head porter at the dealer where I used to work do mine. He also has a yellow SS/SC, and I help him out with anything, he has my old 3" pulley and I installed his intake for him, he lets me come by whenever I want and wash my car. He does real nice work, he just puts very thin coats of wax on. I let him clay the car, which I will be doing again sometime soon, then I wax the hell out of it 3-4 times in the next week or so, gives the car a glowing finish almost at night when the light hits it. God I love my yellow car!!

damn man, you got lucky! lol yellow does look good on that ss/sc.

I just skimmed thru this , so maybe I got the wrong impression ........the claybar in itself isnt gonna do squat to the way your paint looks . And if anything , will make your paint look worse after you strip all the old wax off and clay it . The only purpose of the clay is to remove contaminents you cant see .....oxidation , pollen ect , and stuff you can see thats a bitch to get off ....like tree sap , those tiny black tar marks that accumlate on the rockers and back of the car . Basically if you run your hands accross the surface of your paint and its glass smooth , you dont need to clay it at all . Just use the clay to go over areas that might need it , like for those little tar specs . If your paint does not feel smooth as glass , you will benefit from clay ....its like eraser literally and is the basis for almost every detail I do .

When u use clay , you dont have to use those qwik detail sprays either . Its cheaper just to go to paint shop and buy the clay by itself . I use a bucket of hot soapy water to act as a lubricant for the clay . I use dawn dish soap because it strips the old wax off and its mild , so it wont harm your paint at all .

Follow up the clay with a good swirl remover(if needed) , if not then just use a good polish , then finish with a good quality wax .

I just skimmed thru this , so maybe I got the wrong impression ........the claybar in itself isnt gonna do squat to the way your paint looks . And if anything , will make your paint look worse after you strip all the old wax off and clay it . The only purpose of the clay is to remove contaminents you cant see .....oxidation , pollen ect , and stuff you can see thats a bitch to get off ....like tree sap , those tiny black tar marks that accumlate on the rockers and back of the car . Basically if you run your hands accross the surface of your paint and its glass smooth , you dont need to clay it at all . Just use the clay to go over areas that might need it , like for those little tar specs . If your paint does not feel smooth as glass , you will benefit from clay ....its like eraser literally and is the basis for almost every detail I do .

When u use clay , you dont have to use those qwik detail sprays either . Its cheaper just to go to paint shop and buy the clay by itself . I use a bucket of hot soapy water to act as a lubricant for the clay . I use dawn dish soap because it strips the old wax off and its mild , so it wont harm your paint at all .

Follow up the clay with a good swirl remover(if needed) , if not then just use a good polish , then finish with a good quality wax .



Yeah I didnt have anything like that on my car, so I guess I really didnt need to do it. I just wanted to after everyone was like raving about it on here lately

You don't see a difference with the clay bar...you feel the difference.

Or I've just taken good care of my paint? Perhaps?

there ya go. Sounds right to me

i don't think it was a nice comeback... because if he's not happy with the outcome, then it's obvious he didn't do it right... either that, or his expectations were way too high

Like he's trying to point out, it dosn't take a brain surgeon to spray on a lubricant and then rub a gob of muck over the car. How could he not do it right? His paint was prolly good to begin with.

there ya go. Sounds right to me



Like he's trying to point out, it dosn't take a brain surgeon to spray on a lubricant and then rub a gob of muck over the car. How could he not do it right? His paint was prolly good to begin with.

Thank you

Yeah your paint had to of been in good shape and taken cared of. It still doesn't hurt to run it over your car every 6~12 months though.

On the other hand, on a car which the paint wasn't taken cared of, i.e. my car that i bought used, it made an UNBELIEVEABLE difference.

Your right about it being over hyped thats for sure! I've used them several times from different brands and saw no benifits other then a wasted day. I just use the Meguiers 3 step and the car looks awesome! I've said what you have before and been flamed for it but its nice to see that there's someone else out there that expects more out of a product.

You don't see a difference with the clay bar...you feel the difference.

bingo

and if you really want to feel the difference put your hand in a plastic baggy then run it over the paint surface. easily feel way more tiny dirt specs. i live right behind a thruway so the difference was easily noticeable when i ran my hand across the paint.

plus claying removes any of the small dirt particles that may get left behind after a good washing. then you rub them in when you wax. blah to that. but if you think your paint is that good to begin with then claying isn't needed.

I have detailed on and off for the past 6 years. Claying a car is one of the best things you can do. At the last shop that I worked for, we used a clay bar on all of the used cars. It removes all of the contaminants, and I recomend doing it for anyone that wants to machine polish their car. We used a more aggressive bar (Car Brite medium duty clay bar) that actually dulls the finish and needs to be finished with machine polishing. It definitely turns the finish of a car around.

lol someone is claiming claybars dont work, yet using dishsoap on their car was a good idea

one of the following probably happened:
1.the dishsoap is quite harsh on paint, it may have stripped off what the clay bar would have done
2.he accually didnt need claybar'd yet
3. he expected to see a difference with claybaring

I claybared my car yesterday and it made the world of difference. I used the meguiars kit, and it worked amazing. What i done was wash/dry/ then claybared the car...then i rewashed the car/dried it/waxed it with meguiars gold class. The paint looks better than it did when it was new.

If you use a clay bar and dont get good results your either

A. not doing it right (which is hard to screw up)
B. not seeing the results

Take any brand new car, any car and daily drive it for a month. Give it a good thorough wash and I still guarantee I can pull contaminants out of the paint using a clay bar.

I used clay magic clay bar on both my fiance's car and my own. As some of you may have seen in my post its made a huge difference in her 03 sunfire but wasn't nearly as much of a difference with my car. However just by simply brushing my hand over the paint before and after you could tell that it removed the contaminates because it was soo much smoother. You may not see a difference but you should be able to feel the difference.

Im disturbed by the fact that you used dish soap to strip the wax, then continued to use a paint CLEANER then all you did to seal it was put on cheap ass Turtle wax liquid polish. Should always follow a clay bar up wih a paint cleaner, polish then a nice solid wax.

Im disturbed by the fact that you used dish soap to strip the wax, then continued to use a paint CLEANER then all you did to seal it was put on cheap ass Turtle wax liquid polish. Should always follow a clay bar up wih a paint cleaner, polish then a nice solid wax.

Did you even read my post dipshit? Since when is mothers wax a "cheap ass Turtle wax liquid polish"

Did you see all kinds of shit in the clay after using it?

It was dirty but not much

there's no point of arguing the point. If he's not impressed he doesn't need to do it again. However the 90% of us that does like it will continue to use it. Nuff said

i just finsihed claying the car last weekend and just like what was stated.. you will feel the difference more then see it.. my car looks fine.. but once i was done with the bar.. the white bar was more of a murky brown when finished.. i was surprised how much shit was removed that the eye couldn't see...

the worst spot on my car that i found that perhaps you should test just to make sure everything your doing is working right is the Back lip by the trunk hatch .. this was the most "gritty" surface on the whole car that i found.