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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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07 LS 2.2 vs. 06 Eclipse 4 cylinder

Beaten by my friends LS. I thought the Eclipse would win, however not the case. We won by about car and a half.

LS owners out there, don't be intimidated by them (if any), there just a big foreign piece of steel that are over priced and that weight 3300 lbs
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Yes indeed they are slow. That car should come standard with the V6.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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even with a v6 the eclipse is too heavy. i raced one the other day in my 2.4 SS and slowly but surely, i pulled away from it. It wasn't a severe ass-kickin or anything, but the cobalt won the day.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Good race nontheless.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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haha this reminds me of this kid that drives one at my school and i had put on my motegi dp12s 17" and the kid was like those rims are gay and so is your car.. and so i fired back with.. well at least i have rims fool..(what was i thinking?) but in the end it was funny. I know i could put a beat down on his car(its stock) so i mean its sad that they think they are a beast because they have an eclipse
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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good kill...ive been wondering what the outcome would be if i ever came across stock eclipse
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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even with a v6 the eclipse is too heavy. i raced one the other day in my 2.4 SS and slowly but surely, i pulled away from it. It wasn't a severe ass-kickin or anything, but the cobalt won the day.
Doubtful. New V6's are well into the 13's and trap over 100mph.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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I've beaten this eclipse that looked like it came out of a ghetto version of Fast and the Furious. Turns out the car had a CAI as well, but it will still slow as hell. I had about a car on them. Not too big of a win, but a win is a win.

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Good job! I've heard the V6 Eclipses are slow too. Haven't had the opp to race one yet though.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Doubtful. New V6's are well into the 13's and trap over 100mph.
Where are you pulling that number out of your ass from?
Car and Driver rates them at 14.5 in the 1/4. In fact that's like saying a stock SS/SC is well into the the 13's...it's just not.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Car and Non-Driver also can't drive.

268hp > whatever the 2.4 SS makes.

They trap over 100mph stock, which a 2.4 will never come close to, and most magazine idiots get them in the 14.0-14.1 range, which a 2.4 will never come close to, and anyone that can actually drive will crack 13's without a problem, which a 2.4 will REALLY never come close to.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Doubtful. New V6's are well intothe 13's and trap over 100mph.
for stock? im gonna call bs on this, until viable proof has been displayed. sorry dont mean to sound like an ass, but well into the 13s to me is 13.5 and lower. I doubt that is even remotely possible for the v6(268hp) pulling 3400+lbs of ballast.

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Car and Non-Driver also can't drive.

268hp > whatever the 2.4 SS makes.

They trap over 100mph stock, which a 2.4 will never come close to, and most magazine idiots get them in the 14.0-14.1 range, which a 2.4 will never come close to, and anyone that can actually drive will crack 13's without a problem, which a 2.4 will REALLY never come close to.
i personally saw a stock GT run a 14.78 6 speed. I dont doubt they might be able to crack over 100mph on the 1/4 but i sense u might be exaggerating a bit or maybe defensive cuz ppl were saying 2.4s can take a v6 GT. I agree a v6 GT should slaughter a 2.4ss. Most sites rate them(v6 GT) about 14.5-14.9 i know this ET is a variance thats dependent on the elevation/temp/driver skill and other variables at a given track. Again I would like to see proof of ur afore mentioned well into the 13s pull by a stock eclipse GT v6.

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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well adam has one of the v6 clipses, im sure he could tell us what they run on average
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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well adam has one of the v6 clipses, im sure he could tell us what they run on average
Yeah i bet their capable of low 14s well driven. But "well into" the 13s, i dont think so.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Dude, they are like 17 second cars LOL

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Yeah i bet their capable of low 14s well driven. But "well into" the 13s, i dont think so.
The V6s range from low to mid 14s depending on the driver and if they have the manual. The autos run high 14s.

The I-4s are...slow.....

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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An LS1 in a 3000 pound car is well into the 13s. That I know. Cam only and they are good for 12s if they get traction. But then this is about V6s....I'll be quiet. :P
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blackedbalt
Beaten by my friends LS. I thought the Eclipse would win, however not the case. We won by about car and a half.

LS owners out there, don't be intimidated by them (if any), there just a big foreign piece of steel that are over priced and that weight 3300 lbs
Actually, they are almost 3500 lbs (atleast the V6s are...the I4s maybe less).

yeah, they are a bit over priced BUT they are comfortable cars to drive and have a lot of options to add to them which usually adds to their prices being so high.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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i myself have smoked a few ricers!!!
Power to the 2.2s
btw i am goin turbo soon hopefully
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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the eclipse has really changed from its roots

it used to be a more minimilistic compact car, with alot of things you didnt see much of in its class in its time

now its more upscale,midsize car, looks like it doubled its size...nothing too inovative about them.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Car and Non-Driver also can't drive.

268hp > whatever the 2.4 SS makes.

They trap over 100mph stock, which a 2.4 will never come close to, and most magazine idiots get them in the 14.0-14.1 range, which a 2.4 will never come close to, and anyone that can actually drive will crack 13's without a problem, which a 2.4 will REALLY never come close to.
I never said the 2.4l could stomp on a Eclipse GT. In fact, They SHOULDN'T.
But you were quoting 13 second quarter mile for a STOCK car that is rated for mid 14's.
That's a full second worth of difference depending on the driver??? Don't think so.

And I'd like to see a time slip for a STOCK GT eclipse cracking into 13's. It would sure surprise the hell out of me, and I will apologize for calling you out on it
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDstylez
Doubtful. New V6's are well into the 13's and trap over 100mph.
yeah i think their 0-60 is mid 6's
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gtxsport11
i myself have smoked a few ricers!!!
Power to the 2.2s
btw i am goin turbo soon hopefully
Did you just plug your own project? lol

Originally Posted by monkeiboy
I never said the 2.4l could stomp on a Eclipse GT. In fact, They SHOULDN'T.
But you were quoting 13 second quarter mile for a STOCK car that is rated for mid 14's.
That's a full second worth of difference depending on the driver??? Don't think so.

And I'd like to see a time slip for a STOCK GT eclipse cracking into 13's. It would sure surprise the hell out of me, and I will apologize for calling you out on it
There is a video on streetfire of a bone stock one running 14 flat. You can search it up.

That's the best I've heard.

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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yeah, at first when i was in my friends 4g eclipse i thought it was fast, and its quick don't get me wrong, but when my friend was racing his ls against my other friends 4g, i was amazingly surprised. the eclipse seems so much faster when your in it, but if you think about it not that fast, cause stock i think is 165? and me and him put a fujita cai onto his eclispe which would prob put it to 170-175, but still...you have a "MIVEC" which is like hondas VTEC, but i'm telling ya'll, these lil' 2.2 liters put up a great fight.

the eclipse actually gets uncomfortable for me when driving for a long time. its not the most comfortable car to be in...the LS cost half of what he payed for his car and the ride is great. idk maybe its just me, but sometimes money cant buy perfection
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by blackedbalt
yeah, at first when i was in my friends 4g eclipse i thought it was fast, and its quick don't get me wrong, but when my friend was racing his ls against my other friends 4g, i was amazingly surprised. the eclipse seems so much faster when your in it, but if you think about it not that fast, cause stock i think is 165? and me and him put a fujita cai onto his eclispe which would prob put it to 170-175, but still...you have a "MIVEC" which is like hondas VTEC, but i'm telling ya'll, these lil' 2.2 liters put up a great fight.

the eclipse actually gets uncomfortable for me when driving for a long time. its not the most comfortable car to be in...the LS cost half of what he payed for his car and the ride is great. idk maybe its just me, but sometimes money cant buy perfection
*sigh*

Variable Valve Timing has little to do with power and more to do with gas mileage and placement of a powerband while maintaining good idle quality.

It's 170 something stock (crank). Either way, it's over 3300 pounds like pointed out. Put it this way, my car has almost 100 more HP than his and my car (has been known) to run low 14s. I personally haven't taken it to the track but you get the point.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
*sigh*

Variable Valve Timing has little to do with power and more to do with gas mileage and placement of a powerband while maintaining good idle quality.

It's 170 something stock (crank). Either way, it's over 3300 pounds like pointed out. Put it this way, my car has almost 100 more HP than his and my car (has been known) to run low 14s. I personally haven't taken it to the track but you get the point.
yeah i got you...i was mocking the honda tuners when they talk all powerful with the VTECS. and yeah i think the gt version is like 300-400 lbs more than the 4cyl.
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