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Got GM Stage 3, Nitrous or Methanol?

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Thumbs up Got GM Stage 3, Nitrous or Methanol?

Just ordered my GM stage 3 from Crate Engine Depot (BTW, Thanks for the awsome deal Tom!! ) so now my question is:

Should I go with the recommended dry 50 shot of Nitrous?

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Should I go with Methanol?

I already purchased my methanol injection kit from coolingmist.com. Looks real simple to install.

Should I keep it? or sell it and buy a Nitrous kit? I personally wanted to go with methanol... but what do you guys think?
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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go with a 50 wet shot!!!!!

or meth... dry shot ftl....
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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I see no point installing something as expensive as S3 without using the nitrous function.
Its to much money for a 2.99 pully and a dual pass plate.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Anyone else? Opinios? Thoughts?
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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both!!! If your only going to pick one NAWWZZ!!!
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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You can do both but if you have to pick one go with the nitrous so you can really utilize the stage 3 kit.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Thanks Guys, Looks like Nitrous is ahead of the Poll. I might end up selling the Cooling Mist kit...................
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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DO NOT USE A METHANOL KIT WITH THE GM STAGE 3 KIT!!
DO NOT USE A WET SHOT WITH THE GM STAGE 3 KIT!!!!!!!!

The kit is designed for a DRY 50 shot ONLY!

Especially for a 50 shot...there is NO reason to use a wet kit. Specially, when the PCM and tune is designed for a dry shot...save yourself 200 bucks or send it to me if you just want to throw it away.

BOTTOM LINE: If you are not going to use the kit the way it was designed, you should just get a tune and spray a wet kit or use your methanol.

This is how guys blow **** up on here and the wonder...What happened? Why?

FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS FTMFW!!!!

I see no point installing something as expensive as S3 without using the nitrous function.
Or to not use it the way it was designed.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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FNFAST, I already found out it doesn't work with the S3. I'm selling the kit right now, I already bought my 50 Dry Shot. Im going all GM except the header and downpipe. After all, they designed and built the car, they know whats best for it.

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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FNFAST, I already found out it doesn't work with the S3. I'm selling the kit right, I already bought my 50 Dry Shot. Im going all GM except the header and downpipe. After all, they designed and built the car, they know whats best for it.
smart man

I hope you know I wasn't ripping into you at all, I was just stating my opinion
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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No ripping taken, thanks bro. Now I know for sure it doesn't work. Trial and Error!!!

Where are you injecting the Nitrous?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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I have the stage 3 so my PCM controls the spray which means I can spray my dry 50 shot anywhere after the MAF. I have mine under mounted on my intake so you can't tell I'm spraying :
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Cool, it seems that we have the exact same set-up
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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FNFAST when are going to post some photos of the setup from your own photos and run that thing at the track?
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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I went with NO because that is what stage 3 is mainly based on
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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FNFAST when are going to post some photos of the setup from your own photos and run that thing at the track?
I ran her at the track my mine. My slip is out online and my QM time is posted in the QM forum

I have photos...whats your email address?

I slapped a 12.05 @ 115. But I got a lucky 60'. I should be right about 12.15 @ 118.

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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Update: So far so good!!! I must say, that 50 dhot kicks in nice and HARD!!! I'm going to run with my brothers 350HP SLP Z28 6Speed and see what happens now. He burned me by 3 car lenghts, lets see if that 50 shot can fill in that gap!!
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Please, post some pics of the nitrous setup. I will be installing on friday stage 2 with stg3 pulley (2.99") , GMPP exhaust, honed exhaust manifold and dual-pass endplate. After this I will be doing stg3 PCM and nitrous dry shot. Include photos of were you will spray.



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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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What kind of power does S3 & 50 shot suppose to put out? Anybody dynoed with this set-up?
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by madeinUSA
What kind of power does S3 & 50 shot suppose to put out? Anybody dynoed with this set-up?
310 With the 50 Shot and 100octane. I'll posts some pics when I get a chance.

Originally Posted by jgarciarivera
Please, post some pics of the nitrous setup. I will be installing on friday stage 2 with stg3 pulley (2.99") , GMPP exhaust, honed exhaust manifold and dual-pass endplate. After this I will be doing stg3 PCM and nitrous dry shot. Include photos of were you will spray.



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It is spraying right before the Throttle Body on the stock intake.

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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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^Very nice! Waiting on pics! Are you planning on any 1/4 mile blast?
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Will GM install the 50 shot of nitrous at the same time they put in a Stage 3? I have the Stage 2 right now. Also hate to sound like a nube and I know the PCM controls the spray, but what exactly does that mean?
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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if any one looking for the nitrous, I have same kit ottp has. But with 300 plus in exctras for a killer deal pm me
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tunerfreak91
Will GM install the 50 shot of nitrous at the same time they put in a Stage 3? I have the Stage 2 right now. Also hate to sound like a nube and I know the PCM controls the spray, but what exactly does that mean?
Originally Posted by Crateenginedepot.com
How does the Nitrous feature work?

A Nitrous system can be wired in so that the Stage 3 PCM provides the proper control scheme for a 50-shot of Nitrous when the Nitrous trigger is activated. The feature will only enable when the clutch is not depressed, throttle is at 90% or more, rpm is between 3500 and 500 below the rev limit, and no errors are detected.

What Nitrous kit does this work with?

The Stage 3 kit will work with any brand 50-shot Nitrous kit. It was designed around a dry system
Notice it says "control scheme", not "calibration". I think I should add that a common misconception is that the S3 PCM is "tuned" for a 50 shot. There is no tune, no extra timing tables anywhere, just a special set of conditions that have to be met before it will send the signal to engage.

You could hook up a 100 shot if you wanted to. Just FYI.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Thanks Pyros, that was really helpful. As far as the "Nitrous trigger" goes they are referring to anything along the lines of a Fast &Furious style steering wheel buttons? lol
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