need some advice on buying a used SS/SC
need some advice on buying a used SS/SC
ok so theres a dealership with an 05 red ss/sc with 25k miles on it and they want 17k for it.. now i just went today and looked at it and im not going to lie.. i want it.. real bad. now my question is, can i somehow talk them down to maybe 15k? i tried looking for scratches on the paint or rims or anything i could think of but i couldnt find ANYTHING wrong with it that i could point out.ive heard its easier to talk them down for a used car but what do i know.. i have no idea. i could use some help though because i want this car badly. right now i have 2k i could use to put down on it but i owe 4k on my current cobalt which is a smartbuy, i would get some monet back for the extended warranty i got on it and they over taxed me on my current car.
u need to tell them that the car is 2 years old, refrence what new ones go for, and how much you can buy a used 06 for around what they go for and youll get it...Say there is no way this car is worth 17 it should be around 14-15 k
well thats the problem.. i just looked on autotrader.com and cars.com and the lowest price is 15,800 and that ss/sc has 60k miles. and mind you these are all 05's. i didnt even look at the 06's cuz they probably start at 19k or something ridiculous
It seems to me that you can always deal on a used car. They always list it high because every buyer needs to get them down at least a little to feel good about the deal. They expect to have to come down on the price some, that is just the way it works.
That $17K price does seem high to me, I would do everything I could to get it down to $15K or less. How long has it been there? The longer they have a car in stock the more they want to get rid if it.
And it seems to me that the SS/SCs aren't really that popular a car (except with us guys here). If they've got lots of people looking at the car they won't go as low as if no one seemed to want it.
The biggest point when buying any car is to not fall in love with it! When you do that you set yourself up to get handled. Remember, if you don't get this particular car there is another one out there that is just as nice. You have to be able to just walk away. If you really want one and work at it you can find one that is exactly what you want for what you have to pay (as long as you are realistic, not crazy).
It is hard to get an idea of how hard a car has been run. If the car still had the original Pirelli tires they would be pretty worn by 25K miles, but look to see if the fronts are worn a lot more than the rears. The fronts will always wear more, but if they have like less than half the tread of the others I might be concerned. But again, with this many miles on the car you can't tell if the tires have been replaced.
Another thing to watch out for is a car that's been modded, especially the engine. Just like the guys here, someone who mods their car is much more likely to run it hard. Like if it has solid mounts you know that the guy added those so he could get a better launch. If you go to look at a car and the guy brags that he just replaced the clutch and tires and brake pads and the car is low mileage then you can expect that he's run the **** out of it.
A good way to check out an SS/SC is to get someone you know who has one drive it and look it over for you. And take it to your mechanic to have him check it out.
Oh, one more thing. I really really really wish I had the LSD in my car. It is gonna cost me almost $1000 to buy one, plus installation. If the '05 you're looking at doesn't have the black Recaro seats, it doesn't have LSD. There is another thread here discussing the LSD and I think most guys would want it.
Good Luck
Randy
'05 Yellow SS/SC
That $17K price does seem high to me, I would do everything I could to get it down to $15K or less. How long has it been there? The longer they have a car in stock the more they want to get rid if it.
And it seems to me that the SS/SCs aren't really that popular a car (except with us guys here). If they've got lots of people looking at the car they won't go as low as if no one seemed to want it.
The biggest point when buying any car is to not fall in love with it! When you do that you set yourself up to get handled. Remember, if you don't get this particular car there is another one out there that is just as nice. You have to be able to just walk away. If you really want one and work at it you can find one that is exactly what you want for what you have to pay (as long as you are realistic, not crazy).
It is hard to get an idea of how hard a car has been run. If the car still had the original Pirelli tires they would be pretty worn by 25K miles, but look to see if the fronts are worn a lot more than the rears. The fronts will always wear more, but if they have like less than half the tread of the others I might be concerned. But again, with this many miles on the car you can't tell if the tires have been replaced.
Another thing to watch out for is a car that's been modded, especially the engine. Just like the guys here, someone who mods their car is much more likely to run it hard. Like if it has solid mounts you know that the guy added those so he could get a better launch. If you go to look at a car and the guy brags that he just replaced the clutch and tires and brake pads and the car is low mileage then you can expect that he's run the **** out of it.
A good way to check out an SS/SC is to get someone you know who has one drive it and look it over for you. And take it to your mechanic to have him check it out.
Oh, one more thing. I really really really wish I had the LSD in my car. It is gonna cost me almost $1000 to buy one, plus installation. If the '05 you're looking at doesn't have the black Recaro seats, it doesn't have LSD. There is another thread here discussing the LSD and I think most guys would want it.
Good Luck
Randy
'05 Yellow SS/SC
anything that isnt apart of the exhaust yea...
cooling mod = fan always on, and is also hooked up to a switch so i can run the fan/intercooler pump while it is off..
car stays niceeeee and cold
I'm not an expert at buying a new car but there is a lot of advice out there from Consumer Reports and maybe Edmunds and other car sites. Just google "buying new car" or something like that. I bet that in a couple of hours you can learn lots.
Your payments depend on a bunch of stuff. Mostly how much you owe on the one you have now. Obviously you still have to finance enough to pay off the old one plus what it costs for the new one.
I can say that whenever you get a new car, you owe more than it is worth (unless you make a big down payment). It takes a few years to get any equity built up in a car, meaning you owe less than what the book value is. The problem you have right now is that what you are wanting to do can be really expensive. Trading a car that is only a year or two old for another will probably cost you a good amount of money.
In other words, unless you have a big down payment you will have to finance the new car plus what you still owe on the old one. Adds up really fast.
Don't go in there talking payments. That is a good way to pay too much. If you go in and say "I can pay $XXX a month" the dealer will automatically add more on top of that just because most people can afford a little more than what they say.
And don't forget that you really just might not be able to afford the new car. It is disappointing, but you would just have to live with it. It depends on so many things.
When I got my '05 SS/SC, I got a pretty bad deal because I wanted it so bad. I was basically stupid and the dealer handled me. My credit isn't good and I had no down payment. My payment is $475 a month, and insurance is $95 a month! That sucks! The only way I can justify it is that I will keep this car until the wheels fall off. I take excellent care of it and it should last me for years after the payments are gone. This is probably the last new car I will ever buy, it's just not cost effective.
Again, just google stuff and read as much as you can. There are lots of sites that will give you great advice.
The only way that you get ahead of the game is to keep a vehicle until after the payments are over. Twice I have bought new PU trucks and both times I kept them for 10 years, so I had 5 or 6 years of no car payment and the vehicles were still in good shape when I sold them because I took good care of them. For example, in '79 I bought a new Chevy full size PU, cost $3050. In '89 I got $1000 for the '79 when I bought an '89. So I had that truck for 10 years, had no car payment for 6 years, and got back 1/3 of what I payed for it new. That was cost effective.
One more point. I really believe that GM will put the TurboECO into the SS within a year. I think GM is waiting to announce the turbo car until all the '07 SS/SCs are sold off the lots. When they announce that car the value of the SS/SC should drop, that is what often happens when an improved model replaces an older one. If I were you I would wait another year and see what happens. In that time you will also have paid your current car down some too.
Hope this helps!
Randy
'05 Yellow SS/SC
Your payments depend on a bunch of stuff. Mostly how much you owe on the one you have now. Obviously you still have to finance enough to pay off the old one plus what it costs for the new one.
I can say that whenever you get a new car, you owe more than it is worth (unless you make a big down payment). It takes a few years to get any equity built up in a car, meaning you owe less than what the book value is. The problem you have right now is that what you are wanting to do can be really expensive. Trading a car that is only a year or two old for another will probably cost you a good amount of money.
In other words, unless you have a big down payment you will have to finance the new car plus what you still owe on the old one. Adds up really fast.
Don't go in there talking payments. That is a good way to pay too much. If you go in and say "I can pay $XXX a month" the dealer will automatically add more on top of that just because most people can afford a little more than what they say.
And don't forget that you really just might not be able to afford the new car. It is disappointing, but you would just have to live with it. It depends on so many things.
When I got my '05 SS/SC, I got a pretty bad deal because I wanted it so bad. I was basically stupid and the dealer handled me. My credit isn't good and I had no down payment. My payment is $475 a month, and insurance is $95 a month! That sucks! The only way I can justify it is that I will keep this car until the wheels fall off. I take excellent care of it and it should last me for years after the payments are gone. This is probably the last new car I will ever buy, it's just not cost effective.
Again, just google stuff and read as much as you can. There are lots of sites that will give you great advice.
The only way that you get ahead of the game is to keep a vehicle until after the payments are over. Twice I have bought new PU trucks and both times I kept them for 10 years, so I had 5 or 6 years of no car payment and the vehicles were still in good shape when I sold them because I took good care of them. For example, in '79 I bought a new Chevy full size PU, cost $3050. In '89 I got $1000 for the '79 when I bought an '89. So I had that truck for 10 years, had no car payment for 6 years, and got back 1/3 of what I payed for it new. That was cost effective.
One more point. I really believe that GM will put the TurboECO into the SS within a year. I think GM is waiting to announce the turbo car until all the '07 SS/SCs are sold off the lots. When they announce that car the value of the SS/SC should drop, that is what often happens when an improved model replaces an older one. If I were you I would wait another year and see what happens. In that time you will also have paid your current car down some too.
Hope this helps!
Randy
'05 Yellow SS/SC
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