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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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2.4L Build list

Since my gaming computer is in the ******* and it's 12:42am, I have decided to come up with a build list for my 2.4L. If anything looks like it shouldn't belong and I should get something else, let me know. It may be a little short, but i'm tired.
-GMPP Performance Catback Exhaust
-K&N SRI Typhoon Intake
-B&M Shiftplus (this sounds uber sweet)
-ok im tired and its time for some sleep. please feel free to comment with suggestions
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Standard transmission :P lol j/k get a tune with ur auto transmission and set ur shift points so u will be as fast as a standard..another thing you mite want is header, will add lots of hp/tq
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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yeah i couldn't decide between GMPP and the CA Stainless Steel Header.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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if you get a header might as well go with the downpipe aswell.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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turbo!!! if youve got the money
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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I don't know how I feel about turboing my car...it doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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the grin on your face might after you mash the gas on it haha
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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IMO. Header/DP/Exhaust/Intake is a really good start and if all done rite with a tune u will be in the same ball park as stock ss/sc
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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^ That is NOT true. You will be in the same ballpark as what the SS/SC claims - 200 hp, 175 whp. That actual is something more like 225-250 hp, putting 205+ to the wheels.

But yes, that's a good list of bolt-ons. Also, dollar for dollar, you'll get much more of out of Header/DP than you will out of a cat back.

Other ideas - appearance mods? Wheels/Tires, front lip extension, tint, lowering springs.

Also - the GMPP is just an extruded manifold, it is not a 'true' header.

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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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lol wow that is a well thought out list for a late night...how many seconds did that take you?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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lol wow that is a well thought out list for a late night...how many seconds did that take you?
i was thinking the same haha. anyways this will not put you in the ballpark of a 2.0 s/c. you'd need to be putting down at least 200 to the wheels to compete with the slower of the 2.0's. if you're lucky you'll get 175-190 with that setup depending on your base numbers.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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^ That is NOT true. You will be in the same ballpark as what the SS/SC claims - 200 hp, 175 whp. That actual is something more like 225-250 whp, putting 205+ to the wheels.

But yes, that's a good list of bolt-ons. Also, dollar for dollar, you'll get much more of out of Header/DP than you will out of a cat back.

Other ideas - appearance mods? Wheels/Tires, front lip extension, tint, lowering springs.

Also - the GMPP is just an extruded manifold, it is not a 'true' header.
Well maybe not quite as fast but a few members here have this done and they claim to be as fast as a stock SS/SC from 0 - 60 I think they said. Once you guys boost gets high enough you start to pull away. But its not the cake walk it used to be

Hey its fun to see an SC owner sweet a little when he thinks a 2.4 may keep up.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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so 50-60 extra hp to the wheels of a ss/sc only gives you a few 10ths in the QM according to Cars.com were both in the 15's stock

15's falls under the not bad range however boost = so much easier to get more power /frownieface

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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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ss/sc's don't run 15's stock...the average driver will pull around a 14.8 stock in an LSJ.

and the average stock 2.4 driver will run around a 15.5

if you can keep up with an LSJ from 0-60 that doesn't say much, they're probably struggling for traction for half that time

you've got like 55-60whp to gain from bolt ons to put down the same power as a stock LSJ. being an auto (sorry auto guys) I don't know if you'll be able to stick with one ever without FI.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Well maybe not quite as fast but a few members here have this done and they claim to be as fast as a stock SS/SC from 0 - 60 I think they said. Once you guys boost gets high enough you start to pull away. But its not the cake walk it used to be

Hey its fun to see an SC owner sweet a little when he thinks a 2.4 may keep up.
Jack, Jack Jack.. I'm a both owner .

And, I am fairly confident you could start the SC in 2nd gear - and not even put the pedal down til 3500 rpm - and beat a 2.4, 0-60.

On highway or daily driving conditions there isn't a substantial difference between the two, typically I have to downshit to do in the 2.4 what I can do in the 2.0 by just throttling up - but that's whatever.

But I believe it is impossible for a 2.4 to keep up with a 2.0 without voiding the warranty through major engine work or forced induction.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSergeant
Jack, Jack Jack.. I'm a both owner .

And, I am fairly confident you could start the SC in 2nd gear - and not even put the pedal down til 3500 rpm - and beat a 2.4, 0-60.

On highway or daily driving conditions there isn't a substantial difference between the two, typically I have to downshit to do in the 2.4 what I can do in the 2.0 by just throttling up - but that's whatever.

But I believe it is impossible for a 2.4 to keep up with a 2.0 without voiding the warranty through major engine work or forced induction.
Disagree. My 0-60 is about 6.2 seconds. And, I can keep up with, if not beat, a stock SC with I/H/E/Tune. Raced one and I pulled hard on him, but we had to stop cause of traffic. When I blew his doors off his words were "Wow, is that supercharged? I was not expecting it to be that fast!" Not trying to start this argument again though, just stating my personal experience

to stay on topic, look into the CA header, it is sexy.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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It is possible if you get the rite parts..we are talking like SRI+Ram hood/header/DP/Exhaust/Tune and a good set of street tires in a 5 spd and u can keep in the ball park with stock ss/sc's
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Why do these always turn in to 2.4 vs 2.0 debates? I have a 2.4 and just want to have the most fun in the 2.4 I can, I don't want to beat 2.0's, I want to scare the **** out of the 16 yr old that talked daddy into getting him a Honda or Scion for his birthday and thinks my 2.4 is easy pickings, hell for kicks, I'll put LS labels on it! I am confident I can do that already, I just want to do it by A LOT!
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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I totally agree with you - and it started because someone stated that with full bolt-ons, they could compete with a 2.0.

There are two truths here -
1) The S/C is a full second faster 0-60, stock to stock. It's also at least 3/4 second on the 1/4.
2) Full bolt-ons and a tune are probably not going to net you the 40 to 50 hp difference between the two models.

And yes, you are right, a 2.4's competition should be other naturally aspirated 4 cylinders of which - even stock - we are pretty close to king. I enjoy the hell out of taking out civics, and especially scions with $5000 worth of body crap.

As I've mentioned - I do own both, and currently have far more in the plans for the 2.4 than I do for the 2.0 - eibach's in the next couple of weeks, new wheels/tires, new clutch, t/c'ing, etc.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Yeah, I'm going to work on traction next, I don't think I would be putting that extra power to work on takeoff, just spin the tires more. If I can't hold traction now I know I wont with a bunch of bolt ons or a SC swap/add/whatever...
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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225's ftw!

S/Cing you may have a lot of traction issues like the stock 2.0s, t/c'ing I hope I'll be okay..
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Kumho's in 225 would be nice, wanted to do the poly fill on the mounts, the CA lower traction bars, and the INGALLS Engine Damper. Thats like $300 bucks (cheap). Then install the CA header and downpipe, have the resonator removed at the local muffler shop, and see what that does. The supercharger mod would be nice, but I have an extended warranty that I paid for, so it may have to wait another 60k miles....
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
lol wow that is a well thought out list for a late night...how many seconds did that take you?
lol about 2 min really.

I could actually really care less about beating a stock or modded SS/SC. I actually just want to beat my boss's Dodge ram Hemi w/ some sort of custom ram air. One time we raced from a 20 roll and he pwned my car, and the next time we raced from a 20 roll on the same road I pulled on him by about 2 cars.

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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I don't know about the trucks, but hemi cars are pretty quick. I mean, that's an enormous V8 you're competing with.

I believe the R/T (not SRT) Chargers and 300's are capable of low 14's stock.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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HOLY TANGENT BATMAN this thread took a turn for the worse!
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