<img src="http://cobaltss.net/articles/sema6.jpg" align="left" border="0" hspace="5" vspace="5">241 HP SS
GM Performance Parts is adding some extra juice to the already high-voltage 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS coupe by taking the wraps off of two supercharger kits at the 2005 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) annual show in Las Vegas .
“These stage kits are aimed squarely at the hard core enthusiast looking to boost the power of the Cobalt SS’s already charged-up 205-horsepower engine,” said Nancy Philippart, executive director, GM Accessories. “They deliver increased horsepower and torque throughout the engine’s operating range.”

GM Performance Parts will offer separate Stage 1 and Stage 2 supercharger kits. The Stage 1 Kit includes higher-flow fuel injectors and an ECU calibration to provide a 31 hp boost to the Cobalt’s engine for a total of 236 hp and 205 lb.-ft. of torque. Add in the Stage 2 Kit, with its smaller supercharger pulley and drive belt, and the engine comes alive with 241 hp and 218 lb.-ft. of torque across a broad engine speed range.

“The kits are easy to install and conform to all GM engineering and validation standards for the Cobalt,” said Philippart. “And, best of all, they’re backed by GM.”

The Cobalt Stage 1 and Stage 2 Kits will be available at GM dealerships in the first quarter of 2006.

GM Accessories and GM Performance Parts are sold in North America by Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Saab and HUMMER dealerships. For more information about GM Parts, GM Accessories or GM Performance Parts, visit www.gmgoodwrench.com.

Here is the link to GM Performance goodies
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=22057
With the full factory warranty :cssNET:

w00h000! thats some good news!!!!

Awesome, I guess that will be about 260 to the wheels then for most people :)

240whp is nice, very nice.
Go figure, with intake, exhaust, headers, and some other goodies we could easily be at 260- 270 whp !!

the 241 is probably really already 260 at the wheels. GM is using the 205 base #. Most people dyno arround 220. Add that extra 15 onto the 241 and you have 256 HP if not more. It would be awesome if the stage kits where under rated too!

i dont understand. with the stage 1 u get 231 with computer work and injectoers. now the stage 2 is JUST PULLEY's? or is that injectors,pulleys and computer work? i guess it wouls have to be just pulleys because theres only a 10 whp difference. AND DANG IT. THEY DIDNT GIVE A PRICE

Damn.. that means we have to wait untill spring now????

i was hoping for november..

but oh well.

Jeff
2005 SS/SC
- still waiting on stage 2

:cssNET:

Im waiting until spring to get my car anyway.

Good news, can't wait :)

STILL NOT ENOUGH POWER!!! The SRT-4 Has more with there highest warentee'd pkg... "MARTY, IT NEED'S MORE POWER" :rolleyes:

This is great actual numbers.
Now for the cost...that's what I want to know.

STILL NOT ENOUGH POWER!!! The SRT-4 Has more with there highest warentee'd pkg... "MARTY, IT NEED'S MORE POWER" :rolleyes:

Agreed... After getting walk'd (and I mean HARD) by an SRT4 Stg2 ... The stage kits aren't thrilling me as much as they once were.

its still better than nothing with no support from GM at all...

and that is why it's always turbo > s/c. :D

-GM claims a 15% HP increase just from stock to Stage 1 (from 205 to 236 HP).
-GM claims a 18% HP increase from stock to Stage 2 (from 205 to 241 HP).

We have to be careful with HP claims : The street tuner challenge's Cobalt SS/SC dynoed stock at 211 WHP and with the pulley and largest injectors it dynoed at 236 HP. It's only a 12% improvement over stock from the "Stage 2". That's a kind of more realistic independant testing.

BUt I think the torque improvement they claims are right : 5 ft-lb from the stage 1 (mostly given by the reflash) and 18 ft-lb from the reflash, injectors and pulley.

Agreed... After getting walk'd (and I mean HARD) by an SRT4 Stg2 ... The stage kits aren't thrilling me as much as they once were.

Yah the more I want to get the upgrades, the more I realize I dont race my car, then why should get the upgrades. I would love to get them, but thats money out of pocket that I would just be wasting to just pass people on the highway.

It's for that 0-60 acceleration and g force :D

and knowing GM's time line these will be out late next year

Nothen but good news

and i mean come on. if your waiting for the warranty for it. if u get a K&N it will void that high cost u payed to have it under warranty. i dont think its wortht he wait. im going to have to take my intake off and put the stock back on. just to get this upgrade done. and ill pay more than i would just buying the PSI FI kit.

how would an intake void your entire warranty? i take my car to the dealer all the time w/ my aem cai and my warranty is still in tact. http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/7956/dntknw6se.gif (http://imageshack.us)

some dealerships say it will void your warranty. i was told its all about what the dealership wants to do about it. so it doesnt void the warranty by putting a intake on your car?

Your warranty is with Chevrolet not the dealership....

The dealerships are ass holes, and have and will screw you every chance they get.

They screwed you when you bought the car. and they will continue to screw you for as long as you own it.

If you accept the answer that your warranty is voided becuase of the intake then your an ass too and deserve to have the warranty you paid for voided. If your smart and not an ass you would make a simple call to chevrolet corporate.

end of story...

some dealerships say it will void your warranty. i was told its all about what the dealership wants to do about it. so it doesnt void the warranty by putting a intake on your car?
my advice to you is to take it to a dealer that won't void it. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act prevents dealers from doing that. my dealer offered to install my aem cai when i first got it. :lol:

<img src="http://cobaltss.net/articles/sema6.jpg" align="left" border="0" hspace="5" vspace="5">241 HP SS
GM Performance Parts is adding some extra juice to the already high-voltage 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS coupe by taking the wraps off of two supercharger kits at the 2005 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) annual show in Las Vegas .
“These stage kits are aimed squarely at the hard core enthusiast looking to boost the power of the Cobalt SS’s already charged-up 205-horsepower engine,” said Nancy Philippart, executive director, GM Accessories. “They deliver increased horsepower and torque throughout the engine’s operating range.”

GM Performance Parts will offer separate Stage 1 and Stage 2 supercharger kits. The Stage 1 Kit includes higher-flow fuel injectors and an ECU calibration to provide a 31 hp boost to the Cobalt’s engine for a total of 236 hp and 205 lb.-ft. of torque. Add in the Stage 2 Kit, with its smaller supercharger pulley and drive belt, and the engine comes alive with 241 hp and 218 lb.-ft. of torque across a broad engine speed range.

“The kits are easy to install and conform to all GM engineering and validation standards for the Cobalt,” said Philippart. “And, best of all, they’re backed by GM.”

The Cobalt Stage 1 and Stage 2 Kits will be available at GM dealerships in the first quarter of 2006.

GM Accessories and GM Performance Parts are sold in North America by Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Saab and HUMMER dealerships. For more information about GM Parts, GM Accessories or GM Performance Parts, visit www.gmgoodwrench.com.

Here is the link to GM Performance goodies
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=22057
With the full factory warranty :cssNET:

Sweet ! I wonder if there raising the rev limiter at all ? Woulda been nice if they would have given a price quote. :cssNET:

ill pay more than i would just buying the PSI FI kit.


with the reflash, the psi-fi is probably going to get some major power gains. i'm really interested to see how much it helps them out

sounds great!

Thats awesome "official" news. #'s are a little lower than what i expected but they are problay underated like the stock ones. Now all we need is stage 3 with a decent price and its game time!!!!

Those sound great! Hey GM how about something for the 2.4L SS? I just want 20 more hp! :)

The numbers are about right, the stage kits are probably the same thing they did on the Cobalt SS from Street Tuner Transformation and those # were 235HP and 218LB/TQ. I don't know if those were 3rd or 4th gear pulls. I hope the Stage upgrades # were all in a 4th gear pull. My Redline makes 220HP 200TQ in 3rd gear pull but only 207HP and 189 TQ in 4th gear. All I have done is K&N CAI and B&M Shifter.

Do you guys think they will release pricing at SEMA?

hopefully

main question is how much? that's it

This is without a doubt, Great News!. 241hp is going to Stop these Stangs' and Civics from stalking me at every turn. Now I won't just beat them- I'll crush them. :-D

looks like i have to start saving up some money ;)

The numbers are about right, the stage kits are probably the same thing they did on the Cobalt SS from Street Tuner Transformation and those # were 235HP and 218LB/TQ. I don't know if those were 3rd or 4th gear pulls. I hope the Stage upgrades # were all in a 4th gear pull. My Redline makes 220HP 200TQ in 3rd gear pull but only 207HP and 189 TQ in 4th gear. All I have done is K&N CAI and B&M Shifter.

Yo I really hope your point is the way it is. It does sound very realistic though.

they probably will raise the REV limiter to 6800 RPM's like they said before and the funny thing is i bet you they say 241 whp at 5600 RPMS! what about the rest :) :) :)

stock:
H/P: 205hp @ 5,600RPM
torque: 200 lb.-ft. @ 4,400RPM

stage 2 kit (probably)
H/P: 241hp @ 5,600RPM
torque 218 lb.-ft. @ 4,400RPM

1,200RPMS to go :cssNET: :cssNET: :cssNET: :cssNET:

that is if they are still gonna bump the limiter up like they said they were could be 7000 RPMS (thats even better)

How much guys? I haven't seen prices yet... any estimates on both stages?

they probably will raise the REV limiter to 6800 RPM's like they said before and the funny thing is i bet you they say 241 whp at 5600 RPMS! what about the rest :) :) :)

stock:
H/P: 205hp @ 5,600RPM
torque: 200 lb.-ft. @ 4,400RPM

stage 2 kit (probably)
H/P: 241hp @ 5,600RPM
torque 218 lb.-ft. @ 4,400RPM

1,200RPMS to go :cssNET: :cssNET: :cssNET: :cssNET:

that is if they are still gonna bump the limiter up like they said they were could be 7000 RPMS (thats even better)


That be crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I won't just beat them- I'll crush them. :-D


Nicely put

Yeah but apparantly I heard our clutches can't handle much more. Does that GM track ss/sc have an upgraded clutch or are they still running the stock clutch? I'm afraid of having to dump $1000 on a new clutch with labor :(

Very interesting..I wonder if they are going to really come out with a Stage 3?

our clutches should handle the stage 1 or 2 upgrades, it would make no sense if they couldnt?? add a bit more power after that and then i can see the clutch starting to slip..........but hey wat do i know :P

someone friggin post prices!!!! comon you sema people!

someone friggin post prices!!!! comon you sema people!

Yeah, comon already!

I guess it's going to be free? :rolleyes:

we all wish!

My only reservation is to see how much the stage 2 will be and/or stage 1 , but you might as well go all the way and do the stage 2. Is it a good assumption that they will be priced some where around 500 for stage 1 and 1000 for stage 2? Or is that too much? The major cost I know will be install charges cause pulleys are around $150? how much do fuel injectors go for? computer programming is all labor. so I hope they will be priced less than what I estimated :cssNET: :usa: :D

TOPS the GM stage 2 should be $750 if it is any more you are getting raped in the face. You could do the Psi-Fi kit and aftermarket injectors for like $700-750 and probly make more power.

For the SRT-4 MOPAR stage 2 without Toys is $860 it has injectors, ECU, MAP sensor, TIP sensor, and wastgate actuator.

Yeah but apparantly I heard our clutches can't handle much more. Does that GM track ss/sc have an upgraded clutch or are they still running the stock clutch? I'm afraid of having to dump $1000 on a new clutch with labor :(


Hey man, I'm in ridgefield here..... j/w where u bought that monsster from, and how much?

I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question. In order to be pushing the 241 HP, do you need to purchase Stages 1 and 2. Or will stage 2 take you to the 241 HP all on its own. And lastly, if these are independently working stages, could you install stages 1 and 2. Thanks.

w00t!!

5 hp from a smaller pulley sux. It should be a much larger gain. what is it going to just raise the boost like a 1/2 psi? You should get a lot more out of a pulley swap. IMO

5 hp from a smaller pulley sux. It should be a much larger gain. what is it going to just raise the boost like a 1/2 psi? You should get a lot more out of a pulley swap. IMO
It's a gain of 5 additional lbs of torque on top of stage 1. The stage kit 1 dramatically increases peek hp, but it lacks torque.

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This has nothing to do with the stage upgrades.

Back on topic though, I will defintitly be getting the stage upgrades esp if I get hired by a gm dealership (employee discount :-D )

I got a pretty good quote on the K&N cold air, but what is the price on the pulley?

Anyone remember those stage 1,2,3 build kit PDF's that were on the GM Performance site a few months back? I downloaded them on my work computer and still have them, but I don't know if they're still on the website. It was basically how to make a cobalt drag race car, i think it went up to 1500 HP or something crazy like that. One of the stages included nitrous, and if i remember correctly, the street tuner cobalt had nitrous.

Think GM would warranty a blown engine in a cobalt that just happened to have a nitrous setup?

I got a pretty good quote on the K&N cold air, but what is the price on the pulley?

Anyone remember those stage 1,2,3 build kit PDF's that were on the GM Performance site a few months back? I downloaded them on my work computer and still have them, but I don't know if they're still on the website. It was basically how to make a cobalt drag race car, i think it went up to 1500 HP or something crazy like that. One of the stages included nitrous, and if i remember correctly, the street tuner cobalt had nitrous.

Think GM would warranty a blown engine in a cobalt that just happened to have a nitrous setup?

The build book was for the 2.2 ecotec from the Cav and Sunfire. And the Street Tuner Challenge Cobalt did not have nitrous.

"The first quarter of 2006" -The first quarter of the financial year, which most businesses go by, i believe starts in nov. I'm not sure if that's what they mean though.

The build book was for the 2.2 ecotec from the Cav and Sunfire. And the Street Tuner Challenge Cobalt did not have nitrous.

it was susposed to but it was pulled from the show , and was installed after the show was done

I Just bought an SS , at 205hp is goes like hell. 241 horses this could get freeky !! I've had the car for 5 months, and people are still staring. Cool

Mark
Surrey. B.C

i heard that gm is supposed to have a (i believe it was a twin supercharger) part that goes with the ss s/c that gives it 300 hp. i dont know if the kits are the first part of the 300 hp and a later stage 3 kit will come out but i did see that they were trying to develope it with a supercharge company. :cssNET:

if that happens cobalt ss s/c drivers will rape stangs and imports even more on street and will be :#one: and will make import and stang drivers :mad: T: and want to :cry:

will even beat the srt4... the only competion would be the all wheel drive sub. wrx sti

How much HP would it take for a Cobalt to beat a stock wrx sti?

i heard that gm is supposed to have a (i believe it was a twin supercharger) part that goes with the ss s/c that gives it 300 hp. i dont know if the kits are the first part of the 300 hp and a later stage 3 kit will come out but i did see that they were trying to develope it with a supercharge company. :cssNET:

if that happens cobalt ss s/c drivers will rape stangs and imports even more on street and will be :#one: and will make import and stang drivers :mad: T: and want to :cry:

will even beat the srt4... the only competion would be the all wheel drive sub. wrx sti

:lol:

How much HP would it take for a Cobalt to beat a stock wrx sti?

Better question would be, how much weight can trim off the car? :cssNET:

^^^ Atleast 1000 pounds to come close :lol:

Im looking for all the performance I can get, street drivin drag car looking to get in the 10s on street tires. any input on were to start looking for parts.

colbalt supercharged what all have you done to yours

bow down to the cobalt!

Found this:

we did the GM Level 2 upgrade, and exhaust car is now pushing 271wheel hp and 229ft

http://www.carsound.com/cgi-bin/UBB_CGI/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000326;p=0

Not sure how reliable that statement is, but if it's true.. that's a hell of an underating.

Found this:

http://www.carsound.com/cgi-bin/UBB_CGI/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000326;p=0

Not sure how reliable that statement is, but if it's true.. that's a hell of an underating.

Agreed. Those are some serious numbers, I really hope that they are accurate.



Originally Posted by themexicankid
i heard that gm is supposed to have a (i believe it was a twin supercharger) part that goes with the ss s/c that gives it 300 hp. i dont know if the kits are the first part of the 300 hp and a later stage 3 kit will come out but i did see that they were trying to develope it with a supercharge company.

if that happens cobalt ss s/c drivers will rape stangs and imports even more on street and will be and will make import and stang drivers T: and want to

will even beat the srt4... the only competion would be the all wheel drive sub. wrx sti

:lol:

I don't understand whats so funny. I think its fair to say that a 2900lb Cobalt SS S/C with 300HP would beat a 300HP 3400lb AWD STi. The 500lb weight advantage and 10% less drivetrain loss of the Cobalt SS S/C would make it pretty even match, even from a dig.

Same goes for the Stage 3 SRT-4, an SS S/C pushing 300HP would be a pretty even match.

Same goes for the Stage 3 SRT-4, an SS S/C pushing 300HP would be a pretty even match.

Stage 3's are 11 sec cars, and they come with a bigger turbo, putting down 325whp minimum.

i heard that gm is supposed to have a (i believe it was a twin supercharger) part that goes with the ss s/c that gives it 300 hp. i dont know if the kits are the first part of the 300 hp and a later stage 3 kit will come out but i did see that they were trying to develope it with a supercharge company. :cssNET:

if that happens cobalt ss s/c drivers will rape stangs and imports even more on street and will be :#one: and will make import and stang drivers :mad: T: and want to :cry:

will even beat the srt4... the only competion would be the all wheel drive sub. wrx sti
There is a GM build book for the LSJ that will take it to 300hp, using the factory supercharger with a smaller pulley. They also changed the cams, valvetrain, pistons, and made the intercooler fluid make 2 passes throught the intercooler.

I hate to admit it, but we have a little while before we look at STi's, EVO's, and Stage 3 SRT-4's.

first it was scion's, next was nissan, then srt-4, and now GM its about time if you ask me!!

F'ng sweet W()()T!® (anyone using the ( as O's will have to pay me 100 dollars per (. )

Stage 3's are 11 sec cars, and they come with a bigger turbo, putting down 325whp minimum.

Yea, on 100 Octane racing fuel :rolleyes:

You'd be an idiot to drive around running 100 octane race gas on the street.

Yea, on 100 Octane racing fuel :rolleyes:

You'd be an idiot to drive around running 100 octane race gas on the street.

There is no 1/4 mi tracks on the street. ;)

There is no 1/4 mi tracks on the street. ;)

Okay I guess we had a misunderstanding then. I was refferring driving on the street, whereas you were talking about running racing fuel at the track. Big difference, its all good though :beer:

anyone know how much a stage 2 kit costs???

anyone know how much a stage 2 kit costs???

call your dealer, or crate engine depot.

Dear LORD! Whats with all the zombie posts today?

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Cobalt-Stage-2-Performance-245-hp-Upgrade-Kit-17803229-P1540C0.aspx

$565

PS - One hell of a thread revival

PS - One hell of a thread revival

holy shit yes, call the church choir :lol:

:wtf: ???????

People bitch about other people that don't use search, then when somebody uses search, they get this. :)

i read this and didnt look at the date... im like wtf NEW stage kits haha

anyone know how much a stage 2 kit costs???

In 2005 or 2008 :lol:

People bitch about other people that don't use search, then when somebody uses search, they get this. :)

People bitch no matter what get used to it lol

i read this and didnt look at the date... im like wtf NEW stage kits haha

I thought the same thing at first haha. Got excited for a minute there.