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foff667
09-26-2007, 12:45 PM
HP Tuners VCM Suite v2.2.0 is Now Available!

http://www.hptuners.com/articles/070925/main.jpg

HP Tuners is pleased to announce the release of VCM Suite 2.2.0. This release is HUGE! We've added Ford V8, GM LBZ/LMM Duramax, GM Vortec V8/V6, GM Solstice/Sky 2.0 Turbo, GM Alloytec V6 for US vehicles, almost 50 new late model GM scanner MPIDs, 2008 GM vehicle support, instant online application keys and more! The VCM Suite tradition of comprehensive and feature packed releases certainly continues with this latest offering from HP Tuners.

Major new features for 2.2.0:
- Late model Ford Mustang/F-Series V8 tuning
- GM Duramax LBZ/LMM engine tuning
- GM Vortec V8/V6 tuning
- GM Pontiac Solstice / Saturn Sky 2.0L Turbo tuning
- GM Cadillac/Buick/GMC/Saturn/Saab 3.6L & 2.8L V6 tuning
- Various 2008 GM model support incl. 2008 Corvette LS3
- Almost 50 new scanner PID's for late model GM applications including Spark, InjTemp, IVT, GMVE, AFR Hi-res MPIDs for E40/38/67 (48 new)
- New calibration support for existing supported vehicle types
- Consolidated bug fixes since previous release and beta
- Online secure credit card processing
- Instant online application key generation for new credit purchases

Once again, we would like to thank our dedicated HPT staff, our team of forum moderators, beta testers and all our valued customers who help us keep VCM Suite at the leading edge of tuning solutions. We appreciate your enthusiasm, dedication, patience and feedback during the sometimes long and complex development process.

We hope you enjoy VCM Suite 2.2.0!


Ford V8 Tuning
Forget those external flash devices and separate tuning/scanning hardware and software packages, ALL-IN-ONE Ford tuning and scanning is here! Now you can tune GM and Ford using a single interface HARDWARE *and* SOFTWARE from HP Tuners. Our fully integrated solution encompasses hardware, software and licensing structures to minimize any non-tuning related learning or re-training.

From a hardware perspective our existing and proven MPVI hardware was designed with Ford protocol support from it's initial launch in 2006 and provides the same robust base for Ford tuning. VCM Suite software integrates Ford tuning into a familiar look and feel for existing users. Keeping the tuning experience as close to our existing GM solution was paramount to avoid re-learning administrative tasks instead of getting on with the job of Ford tuning itself. There are many new and unfamiliar parameters to edit for Ford vehicles and where possible we have maintained a similar functional grouping to the GM product. Basic functions such as reading, writing, table editing, comparing and other features remain consistent across both Ford and GM applications. Lastly, our licensing credit system has proven extremely popular and easy to use and it makes sense that Ford would fit right into the existing system with minimal confusion. Users will now be able to purchase "Ford credits" which are used and applied for Ford vehicles in exactly the same way in which GM credits are used for GM vehicles on the same MPVI hardware. Both single vehicle and year/model license types will be supported initially and additionally a new "VCM Suite Ford" base package that ships with 8 Ford credits is available to new customers and dealers.

To summarize:
- existing MPVI hardware
- VCM Suite software
- no external flashing devices
- all-in-one Ford and GM tuning solution
- seamless user interface
- consistent credit based licensing system
- new VCM Suite Ford base package

Supported Ford Vehicles:
- 05-07 Ford Mustang V8
- 04-07 Ford F-Series V8

This is our first step into the Ford tuning market and we already have plans and roadmaps set to expand our product to support other Ford vehicle types and enhance scanner support over the coming months, exciting times ahead for sure!

http://www.hptuners.com/articles/070925/ford1.jpg


GM Duramax LBZ/LMM engine support
Building on our solid foundation from the LB7 and LLY engines, this release also brings support for the newer Duramax LBZ/LMM engine used in the following vehicles:
- 06-07 Chevy Silverado V8 Diesel
- 06-07 Chevy Kodiak V8 Diesel
- 06-07 GMC Sierra V8 Diesel
- 06-07 GMC Topkick V8 Diesel
- 06 Chevy Express V8 Diesel
- 06 GMC Savana V8 Diesel

VCM Suite supports over 500 editable parameters for the LBZ engine and almost 700 for the LMM engine! Get your Duramax Diesel in top shape for performance competition with VCM Suite.

http://www.hptuners.com/articles/070925/lmm_1.jpg


GM Vortec V8/V6 support
If you still want more then we have it for you... VCM Suite 2.2.0 also adds support for the 98-00 Vortec range of V8 and V6 powered vehicles. Performance has never been easier with VCM suite giving very comprehensive parameter coverage for the Vortec range. Rev limiter got you down on your 454 engine? VCM Suite 2.2.0 can fix that!

Supported vehicles are:
- 98-00 Chevy Silverado 5.0, 5.7, 7.4
- 98-00 Chevy Tahoe 5.7
- 98-99 Chevy Suburban 5.7, 7.4
- 98-00 Chevy Express 5.0, 5.7, 7.4
- 99-00 Cadillac Escalade 5.7
- 98-00 GMC Sierra 5.0, 5.7, 7.4
- 98-00 GMC Yukon 5.7
- 98-00 GMC Savana 5.0, 5.7, 7.4
- 98-00 Chevy S10 4.3
- 98-00 Chevy Blazer 4.3
- 99-00 Chevy Silverado 4.3
- 98-00 Chevy Astro 4.3
- 98-00 Chevy Express 4.3
- 98-00 Oldsmobile Bravada 4.3
- 98-00 GMC Sonoma 4.3
- 98-00 GMC Sierra 4.3
- 98-00 GMC Jimmy 4.3
- 98-00 GMC Safari 4.3
- 98-00 GMC Savana 4.3

http://www.hptuners.com/articles/070925/vortec_1.jpg

GM Solstice/Sky 2.0L Turbo support
Tuning support for the 2.0L turbo Solstice/Sky engine wasn't available until we announced support for it during our beta testing program earlier this year. This general release provides basic tuning support for the engine, with more enhancements such as turbo boost control parameters and 5spd automatic transmission planned for future releases.
- 07 Pontiac Solstice 2.0 Turbo
- 07 Saturn Sky 2.0 Turbo


"Alloytec" HFV6 engine support for US vehicles
After a successful Australian release of the new GM V6 powerplant in the Holden vehicles, HP Tuners announces tuning support for US vehicles in VCM Suite 2.2.0. This general release provides tuning support for the engine, including camshaft control and manual or 4spd automatic transmission if fitted. Enhancements such as 5spd automatic transmission are planned for future releases.This release adds support for the following vehicles:
- 04-07 Cadillac CTS V6 3.6, 2.8
- 05-07 Cadillac STS V6 3.6
- 04-07 Cadillac SRX V6 3.6

http://www.hptuners.com/articles/070925/alloytec1.jpg

http://www.hptuners.com/articles/070925/alloytec-v6.jpg


2008 GM vehicle support
With 2008 vehicle releases already hitting the streets, it's time to get these new vehicles modded and out on the track! This release adds support for the following 2008 vehicles from GM:
- 2008 Chevy Corvette V8
- 2008 Chevy Silverado V8
- 2008 Chevy HHR I4
- 2008 Cadillac Escalade V8
- 2008 Hummer H2 V8
- 2008 Hummer H3 Alpha V8
- 2008 Hummer H3 I5
- 2008 Holden Sedan V8
- 2008 Holden Sedan V6

New VCM Scanner MPID support for late model GM ECM's
As ECM's get more powerful and complex the feedback to the tuner needs to adapt. HP Tuners "MPID" (short for Memory PID) technology allows access to advanced tuning parameters to give a more complete picture of what the ECM is up to during engine operation. Almost 50 new MPID's have been added to VCM Scanner for the E40/E38/E67 range of ECM's where applicable.

New MPIDs:
- SPARK (Base, IAT, ECT, EGR, PE/COT, DFCO, CFCO, FlexFuel, CatLightoff, Piston Slap, Launch, Cranking, Per Cylinder advances, TqMgt, Idle Base, Idle Adapt, Variable Cam)
- KNOCK (knock learn factor, per cyl KL Fact, per cyl KR)
- GM Volumetric Efficiency (raw VE value)
- Intake Valve Temp
- Injector Tip Temp
- Manifold Air Temp
- Injector Flow rate (if not already supported)
- Fuel Cut Type (if not already supported)
- MAF Sensor State (if not already supported)
- Air Calc Mode (if not already supported)
- AFR Cmd Hi-Res (if not already supported)


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HP Tuners VCM Suite v2.2.0 is Now Available! - Part 2

Online Credit Card ordering and Instant Application Key's
Since the very first release of VCM Suite we have been listening to feedback from our customers and tunershops on all aspects of using our products and interfacing with HP Tuners from a business perspective. Over the years we have implemented various systems to streamline or enhance things such as the credit based licensing system, application key based software structure, single vehicle licenses, the ability to license files for mail order tuning, the customer login page with email updates and other features. These features all help make the interface between us smoother and less likely to result in confusion or misunderstandings. Customers are able to help themselves via their customer login to important information regarding their product, purchases and available upgrades rather than requiring back and forth emails.

To coincide with the release of VCM Suite 2.2.0 it gives us great pleasure to announce HP Tuners secure online credit card processing facilities and instant application key service for new credit purchases.

In addition to existing Paypal payment methods, customers are now able to purchase directly via credit card. All aspects of existing online shopping cart remain the same with the additional option of direct credit card payment on checkout. For new GM or Ford credit purchases made via Credit Card or Paypal (excluding E-Check) the updated application key will be emailed instantly to the email address specified during the checkout process. No more urgent emails for a car sitting on the dyno on the weekend that you forgot to purchase credits for! Please note that customers who use Paypal E-Check will not be issued an application key until the E-Check funds have cleared which usually takes a number of days.

We think these new features will certainly please a lot of customers!

Also, it's probably a good time to remind existing customers that all current information about your product is available to you via our customer login facility. Things such as your current application key, available software downloads and general information is available there. If you have not created an account yet, please think about registering soon.

Review our general release & beta release methodology HERE (http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5707).

A complete list of new features and bug fixes can be found HERE (http://www.hptuners.com/help/introduction_whats_new.htm)

Obtaining the update
All customers can login (http://www.hptuners.com/) to download and install VCM Suite 2.2.0. Updates are FREE to all customers. MPVI customers who have never logged in, please create an account (http://www.hptuners.com/newcust.php).

Please note that not all listed features and new vehicle types are available on serial interfaces.

For all ordering and pricing information on any of the new vehicles listed above, please see our Shop Online (http://www.hptuners.com/order.php) and Supported Vehicles (http://www.hptuners.com/products/vcmsuite_vehicles.php) page.

- The HP Tuners team.

View the press release here:
http://www.hptuners.com/articles/070925/

Active discussion on our forum here:
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14493

All users can download the update from the customer center here:
http://www.hptuners.com/customers/

Thank you for your support!

HP Tuners LLC
www.hptuners.com

RuSSo-29
09-26-2007, 12:45 PM
Sweet. Glad to see the LNF is gunna be able to be tuned the right way.

So still no 2.2L tuning?

06blackg85ss
09-26-2007, 01:25 PM
got my hands on it woot

tonio5555
09-28-2007, 03:02 AM
Sweet. Glad to see the LNF is gunna be able to be tuned the right way.

So still no 2.2L tuning?

x2... any progress on the 2.2?

Delta2.2
09-28-2007, 12:02 PM
when are the 05-06 cobalt 2.2's expected to be released??

HP Tuners
09-28-2007, 08:32 PM
Interest for 2.2 tuning has been relatively low(~45 people have shown interest even at a minimal level on the 3 tuning software forums polls have been posted on) for the 6-8 months of development time it would take for us to even start a beta program for them. Add in the fact they were only used in a VERY limited amount of vehicles & ONLY for 2 years & then switched out for a new pcm in 07+ its doubtful we'll offer anything.

If I were to guess it probably won't be until sometime late in 2008 when we re-evaluate the 2.2 market at the earliest.

-Bill

06blackg85ss
09-28-2007, 08:36 PM
quick question, the 07 2.2's covered? I think they got the new pcms?

Edubs
09-28-2007, 08:46 PM
Quick sidetrack ?

What's the LSJ PCM? I'm pretty sure it's the E12...right? Something like that. E12 or E20. I know there's a freakin' 2 in it...

06blackg85ss
09-28-2007, 08:51 PM
you know what, at this moment, I can not remember sir... damn 12hour work day, then burning the shit outta my arms for 2 hours on the cobalt

Edubs
09-28-2007, 08:52 PM
Next time grab one of your spare N20 bottles in the garage and spray it down before you start workin...

06blackg85ss
09-28-2007, 08:53 PM
good idea, actually storing both at my work right now, they weren't so happy chillin under my bed...

HP Tuners
09-28-2007, 10:02 PM
Quick sidetrack ?

What's the LSJ PCM? I'm pretty sure it's the E12...right? Something like that. E12 or E20. I know there's a freakin' 2 in it...

P12's we support, this pcm is also in I4 & I5 colorado, canyon, H3's, I6 Rainier, I6 Trailblazer, etc.

E67's we support, this pcm is also in 2.4 solstice, 2.4 HHR's, Uplander, Envoy, G6, Grand Prix, Montana, Saab 9-7x, Envoy, Trailblazer, Malibu, monte carlo, Rainier, etc.

quick question, the 07 2.2's covered? I think they got the new pcms?

They got A new pcm which is not supported. The E37 I believe it is.

Edubs
09-29-2007, 11:07 AM
^Thanks!

Starts with an S! Let's see. Swim? Swammi? Slippy? Slappy? Swenson? Swanson?

Samsonite! I was way off! I knew it started with an S, though.

:lol:

Delta2.2
09-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Interest for 2.2 tuning has been relatively low(~45 people have shown interest even at a minimal level on the 3 tuning software forums polls have been posted on) for the 6-8 months of development time it would take for us to even start a beta program for them. Add in the fact they were only used in a VERY limited amount of vehicles & ONLY for 2 years & then switched out for a new pcm in 07+ its doubtful we'll offer anything.

If I were to guess it probably won't be until sometime late in 2008 when we re-evaluate the 2.2 market at the earliest.

-Bill

well i guess i can kiss HPT goodbye then. :bye:
only reason i wanted HPT is because my car club all use hpt on their cobalts, ions, and solstaces (100 members in car club and im 1 of the only 2.2 cobalts). so they would be able to help me in that sence knowing the program.

time to find other ways of tuneing now, hello MegaSquirt :guns:

06blackg85ss
09-29-2007, 11:21 AM
^Thanks!

Starts with an S! Let's see. Swim? Swammi? Slippy? Slappy? Swenson? Swanson?

Samsonite! I was way off! I knew it started with an S, though.

:lol:

lol...

tonio5555
09-29-2007, 12:14 PM
Interest for 2.2 tuning has been relatively low(~45 people have shown interest even at a minimal level on the 3 tuning software forums polls have been posted on) for the 6-8 months of development time it would take for us to even start a beta program for them. Add in the fact they were only used in a VERY limited amount of vehicles & ONLY for 2 years & then switched out for a new pcm in 07+ its doubtful we'll offer anything.

If I were to guess it probably won't be until sometime late in 2008 when we re-evaluate the 2.2 market at the earliest.

-Bill

Were those polls on the HPT site or on here? If it was on here I'm sure you'd find way more than 45 interested people.

I'm in the same boat as Delta, my friend owns VCM suite which would have made my life very easy, but I guess it's time to give up on HPTuners.

Edubs
09-29-2007, 12:21 PM
I think the poll was geared more towards professionals who would be using this more than just a one-time-shot. It wouldn't hurt to set a poll up here to see how many people would buy 2 credits or go to a tuner that used HPT...

06blackg85ss
09-29-2007, 12:32 PM
I know at least 15 people that live within 10 miles of my house with 2.2's that want tunes and be able to go boosted. I gotta get them up on your forums I guess.

Z Speed
09-29-2007, 12:48 PM
well i guess i can kiss HPT goodbye then. :bye:
only reason i wanted HPT is because my car club all use hpt on their cobalts, ions, and solstaces (100 members in car club and im 1 of the only 2.2 cobalts). so they would be able to help me in that sence knowing the program.

time to find other ways of tuneing now, hello MegaSquirt :guns:


contact efi live.... there supposed to be coming out with support last i heard for the 2.0 and 2.4 ecotecs...... im sure they could consider the 2.2 if they see a market for them cause I know the 2.2 is in need of tuning........ you should be limited to aftermarket support just cause you cant afford a higher priced car imo....... honestly if hp tuners supports the cavalier I dont see why they wouldnt bring support the base cobalt..... not bashing on hptuners for not doing it cause its a business and if they spend 5 grand on getting support for the base cobalt and only a dozen people actually use it and half of them people only purchase cables theres no profit.


someone soud try and see if its possible to use the 2.0 or 2.4 computers some way

tonio5555
09-29-2007, 05:57 PM
contact efi live.... there supposed to be coming out with support last i heard for the 2.0 and 2.4 ecotecs...... im sure they could consider the 2.2 if they see a market for them cause I know the 2.2 is in need of tuning........ you should be limited to aftermarket support just cause you cant afford a higher priced car imo....... honestly if hp tuners supports the cavalier I dont see why they wouldnt bring support the base cobalt..... not bashing on hptuners for not doing it cause its a business and if they spend 5 grand on getting support for the base cobalt and only a dozen people actually use it and half of them people only purchase cables theres no profit.


someone soud try and see if its possible to use the 2.0 or 2.4 computers some way

I've heard some people theorize that you could use a 2.4 computer if you somehow disabled VVT. Probably just as much work as cracking the e16 as is.

Vote here for 2.2 tuning. http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78462

lil_kano
09-29-2007, 06:05 PM
Interest for 2.2 tuning has been relatively low(~45 people have shown interest even at a minimal level on the 3 tuning software forums polls have been posted on) for the 6-8 months of development time it would take for us to even start a beta program for them. Add in the fact they were only used in a VERY limited amount of vehicles & ONLY for 2 years & then switched out for a new pcm in 07+ its doubtful we'll offer anything.

If I were to guess it probably won't be until sometime late in 2008 when we re-evaluate the 2.2 market at the earliest.

-Bill

so how much intrest would you need to see? ;)

REDFOCZ
09-30-2007, 02:44 PM
There is also the Ion 2.2 guys that want tuning as well. I kow of at least five ion 2.2 that would buy it right now.

HP Tuners
09-30-2007, 06:11 PM
so how much intrest would you need to see? ;)

Enough to cover 4-6 months of lead development time at ~$100/hr.

an0malous
09-30-2007, 06:13 PM
Enough to cover 4-6 months of lead development time at ~$100/hr.

owie

sick06cobalt
09-30-2007, 06:16 PM
Interest for 2.2 tuning has been relatively low(~45 people have shown interest even at a minimal level on the 3 tuning software forums polls have been posted on) for the 6-8 months of development time it would take for us to even start a beta program for them. Add in the fact they were only used in a VERY limited amount of vehicles & ONLY for 2 years & then switched out for a new pcm in 07+ its doubtful we'll offer anything.

If I were to guess it probably won't be until sometime late in 2008 when we re-evaluate the 2.2 market at the earliest.

-Bill

You have to understand though bill... that the market for hptuners is relativly low for us 2.2s because we konw right now we cant tune. and people are getting frustrated and just saying screw it and they go buy another car... i think if you put it out there or did more research then more peopel would be intrested but i know that I and many other people even here are intrested in the 2.2 my friend sent in his codes and everythign to you so you guys could see if you could crack it... so just keep us informed and please make an effort to tune us... :)
Thanks,
David

HP Tuners
09-30-2007, 06:41 PM
You have to understand though bill... that the market for hptuners is relativly low for us 2.2s because we konw right now we cant tune. and people are getting frustrated and just saying screw it and they go buy another car... i think if you put it out there or did more research then more peopel would be intrested but i know that I and many other people even here are intrested in the 2.2 my friend sent in his codes and everythign to you so you guys could see if you could crack it... so just keep us informed and please make an effort to tune us... :)
Thanks,
David

Its a bit of a double edged sword in that if we relegate 6 months of development time for the 05-06 pcm's thats 6 months more time that would need to be tacked onto anything else we've already fully committed to finishing which is LBZ/LMM allison TCM, solstice/sky TCM, LS2/LS3/LS7 2 bar support, Ford lineup, Dodge lineup which would have those guys up in arms, then you'd have the 07+ 2.2 guys up in arms as to why we didn't do that pcm as well and we'd be in the same boat explaining to them the 4-6 months of development time and thats not to mention that every poll that has been started concerning this topic has shown interest of about 40-50 people whether present or future customers which honestly isn't enough to warrant that development time to which most of the threads have posts like F*** hptuners which definitely wouldn't make anyone work harder to try and appease that market. Its not fair to us to be bashed when we were the first & only tuning solution for the 2.0 & 2.4 markets as well as the older 2.2 markets.

Bottom line is you can't please everyone all of the time as its just not possible. You make your commitments and reevaluate your situation when those prior commitments are finished.

-Bill

lil_kano
09-30-2007, 09:46 PM
Its a bit of a double edged sword in that if we relegate 6 months of development time for the 05-06 pcm's thats 6 months more time that would need to be tacked onto anything else we've already fully committed to finishing which is LBZ/LMM allison TCM, solstice/sky TCM, LS2/LS3/LS7 2 bar support, Ford lineup, Dodge lineup which would have those guys up in arms, then you'd have the 07+ 2.2 guys up in arms as to why we didn't do that pcm as well and we'd be in the same boat explaining to them the 4-6 months of development time and thats not to mention that every poll that has been started concerning this topic has shown interest of about 40-50 people whether present or future customers which honestly isn't enough to warrant that development time to which most of the threads have posts like F*** hptuners which definitely wouldn't make anyone work harder to try and appease that market. Its not fair to us to be bashed when we were the first & only tuning solution for the 2.0 & 2.4 markets as well as the older 2.2 markets.

Bottom line is you can't please everyone all of the time as its just not possible. You make your commitments and reevaluate your situation when those prior commitments are finished.

-Bill

Hey Bill, I would like to personally appologize for the idiot that made that remark. I understand totally where your coming from and I would feel the same way aswell. I'm pretty sure that majority of the people on here are very appreciative of your work and have high respect for you guys. I know I do for sure. I realy don't want to sound like a "suck-up," but you have to realize we do these thread because we have no other way of actually getting to you guys. We're pretty much stuck with a car now that we have been informed that there will be no tuning for. I can also say that there is probably double if not triple the amount of people who aren't registered on this forum that look forward to tuning. so its not like you won't ever make back the money. Its just the law of business...you have to lose some to make some. I mean there has to be a way to make this work...please at least let us know, straight forward, if there is or is not any consideration for putting this into production. Thanks.

-Rohri

HP Tuners
09-30-2007, 10:04 PM
Hey Bill, I would like to personally appologize for the idiot that made that remark. I understand totally where your coming from and I would feel the same way aswell. I'm pretty sure that majority of the people on here are very appreciative of your work and have high respect for you guys. I know I do for sure. I realy don't want to sound like a "suck-up," but you have to realize we do these thread because we have no other way of actually getting to you guys. We're pretty much stuck with a car now that we have been informed that there will be no tuning for. I can also say that there is probably double if not triple the amount of people who aren't registered on this forum that look forward to tuning. so its not like you won't ever make back the money. Its just the law of business...you have to lose some to make some. I mean there has to be a way to make this work...please at least let us know, straight forward, if there is or is not any consideration for putting this into production. Thanks.

-Rohri

No apologies necessary, you weren't the person who said it nor will you be the last, but I just wanted to let everyone know what we'd be facing if we tried to support this pcm before finishing what we've already started in so many other areas of GM, ford & dodge support. Its impossible to crack every pcm and get it on the market as quick as people would like, take LT1 & Northstar for other GM examples, is there a market for both, definitely...LT1's are horribly inexpensive now and everyone and their mother is swapping a northstar into their fiero, but will they be supported anytime soon? probably not. Not because we don't want to but because we've already made commitments in other areas that need to be finalized before we can start off on completely new projects.

-Bill

sick06cobalt
09-30-2007, 11:27 PM
Its a bit of a double edged sword in that if we relegate 6 months of development time for the 05-06 pcm's thats 6 months more time that would need to be tacked onto anything else we've already fully committed to finishing which is LBZ/LMM allison TCM, solstice/sky TCM, LS2/LS3/LS7 2 bar support, Ford lineup, Dodge lineup which would have those guys up in arms, then you'd have the 07+ 2.2 guys up in arms as to why we didn't do that pcm as well and we'd be in the same boat explaining to them the 4-6 months of development time and thats not to mention that every poll that has been started concerning this topic has shown interest of about 40-50 people whether present or future customers which honestly isn't enough to warrant that development time to which most of the threads have posts like F*** hptuners which definitely wouldn't make anyone work harder to try and appease that market. Its not fair to us to be bashed when we were the first & only tuning solution for the 2.0 & 2.4 markets as well as the older 2.2 markets.

Bottom line is you can't please everyone all of the time as its just not possible. You make your commitments and reevaluate your situation when those prior commitments are finished.

-Bill


No man youre totally misunderstanding my post/... im not bashing at all.. i am actually just satating that there are plenty of 2.2 guys that would love to be tuned... trust me i understand about pleaseing everyone and how hard it can be... i appreciate what you guys do and im sorry if it didnt come out like that... i wasnt trying to bash... at all actually.... so my apologies... honestly i just wish it was possible for us to be tuned because i have a friend that has hpt on his laptop and it would make things easier... but i totally understand your situation and im sorry for coming off like i didnt...


-Dave

lil_kano
09-30-2007, 11:45 PM
How about a suggestion? No more announcement of certain vehicles going into research, this way you have time to finish what you've started, grab some more PCMs and get at it again. Then, once your done with the 05-06 cobalts you can move on to the not so important people. Just kidding.

On a real note, though, it would be nice and advantageous to know if we will or will not be getting tuning available by HPT at some point. Thanks again.

sick06cobalt
09-30-2007, 11:57 PM
How about a suggestion? No more announcement of certain vehicles going into research, this way you have time to finish what you've started, grab some more PCMs and get at it again. Then, once your done with the 05-06 cobalts you can move on to the not so important people. Just kidding.

On a real note, though, it would be nice and advantageous to know if we will or will not be getting tuning available by HPT at some point. Thanks again.

agree and well stated... gj and some rep for you

HP Tuners
10-01-2007, 12:37 AM
How about a suggestion? No more announcement of certain vehicles going into research, this way you have time to finish what you've started, grab some more PCMs and get at it again. Then, once your done with the 05-06 cobalts you can move on to the not so important people. Just kidding.

On a real note, though, it would be nice and advantageous to know if we will or will not be getting tuning available by HPT at some point. Thanks again.

I think I already answered that question earlier

Interest for 2.2 tuning has been relatively low(~45 people have shown interest even at a minimal level on the 3 tuning software forums polls have been posted on) for the 6-8 months of development time it would take for us to even start a beta program for them. Add in the fact they were only used in a VERY limited amount of vehicles & ONLY for 2 years & then switched out for a new pcm in 07+ its doubtful we'll offer anything.

tonio5555
10-01-2007, 02:05 AM
I also apologize for the comment in that thread. We had a good thread going, then one person had to ruin it and get it locked on us. I should go neg him lol.


On a more serious note, thanks for at least responding to our questions and keeping us updated even if it isn't good news.

$100 an hour for 5 months is $80,000. Figure 2 HPT credits per car at roughly $100 thats 800 buyers. So we'd need a market of around 800 cars. Guys I've tried to keep optimistic about this, but it just isn't looking good. I guess I'll just have to keep saving for that Camaro.