gm sells rebuilt cobalt superchargers for 700$ about how much money would it cost me to install

You can't tune the 2.2 yet for that application, unfortunately.

lock post lol

easiest form of boost per-say would be boost juice aka n20

just trade it in for a ss/sc why waste money on making a 2.2 fast??

u can supercharge a 2.2. i was at the dealer the other day and they told me its possible. they said brand new its about 2 grand

update me man. im interested

just trade it in for a ss/sc why waste money on making a 2.2 fast??

this is an EXTREMELY ignorant statement. please end yourself.

u can supercharge a 2.2. i was at the dealer the other day and they told me its possible. they said brand new its about 2 grand

they lied. they'll tell you anything to sell you a car.

just trade it in for a ss/sc why waste money on making a 2.2 fast??

second time in less then 5 minutes i have seen u post this in different threads. ever heard of a sleeper?

just trade it in for a ss/sc why waste money on making a 2.2 fast??

Totally, whats the point in getting a cobalt SS when there are Supras out there? Better yet just get an aircraft screw fucking wheels.

this is an EXTREMELY ignorant statement. please end yourself.



they lied. they'll tell you anything to sell you a car.


and why is it ignorant?? because you are going to put so much money on a car like this when at the end you realize that you are not going to have a reliable car, is going to be a headache
and that between the price of the car and the money you spent is more than a ss/sc?? plus having the piece of mind of a warranty and a car that was made for a supercharger am i being ignorant or u just are an EXTREME idiot???

and why is it ignorant?? because you are going to put so much money on a car like this when at the end you realize that you are not going to have a reliable car, is going to be a headache
and that between the price of the car and the money you spent is more than a ss/sc?? plus having the piece of mind of a warranty and a car that was made for a supercharger am i being ignorant or u just are an EXTREME idiot???

not all people can get a cobalt ss/sc, so stop trolling, go back to the 2.0 section...

not all people can get a cobalt ss/sc, so stop trolling, go back to the 2.0 section...

well sorry i didnt want to hurt your butt hole about your financial struggle, all im saying is if you are going to supercharge the 2.2 and spend the same amount of money of an use ss/sc wouldn't u rather buy a ss/sc? and btw i got nothing against people on the 2.2 cobys im just giving my opinion, if you like it good, if u dont oh well...

it's going to cost me around 1200 for everything I need for a supercharger swap. Using the aem fi/c to tune. It might cost more or less depending on what kind of prices you can get on parts and if you're going to do all the work/tuning yourself or have someone else do it.

it's going to cost me around 1200 for everything I need for a supercharger swap. Using the aem fi/c to tune. It might cost more or less depending on what kind of prices you can get on parts and if you're going to do all the work/tuning yourself or have someone else do it.

thats a good price now have u thought about the price for a new engine+tranny after the motor blows up?

thats a good price now have u thought about the price for a new engine+tranny after the motor blows up?

with the tuning that won't be a problem...

tunning???? what about internals?? do u think they would handle it for more than a month?

tunning???? what about internals?? do u think they would handle it for more than a month?

that's a completely ignorant statement considering you don't even know how much boost I'm going to run...

I've got about a 250whp limit with the stock internals. I plan on being at about 220-230.

From your statements I'm going to go ahead and say you took the right path in buying a car already built for you.

just trade it in for a ss/sc why waste money on making a 2.2 fast??

why waste money on that when u can get a srt-8 charger, i got a cobalt cuz of financial situations and i needed to build my credit but if i had access to any car i want i would have gotten a srt-8 or a zo6 corvette

why waste money on that when u can get a srt-8 charger, i got a cobalt cuz of financial situations and i needed to build my credit but if i had access to any car i want i would have gotten a srt-8 or a zo6 corvette

screw that. ANY car and I would have gotten either a mclaren or an old-school gto judge.

[QUOTE=Novajoe;1501292]that's a completely ignorant statement considering you don't even know how much boost I'm going to run...

I've got about a 250whp limit with the stock internals. I plan on being at about 220-230.

From your statements I'm going to go ahead and say you took the right path in buying a car already built for you.[/QUOTE


on your stock 2.2 engine its not about how much boost youre going to run, is "for how long your car is gonna run":lol: oh and how are u planning to get 220-230hp? putting a cold air intake with the supercharger:lol: :lol:

screw that. ANY car and I would have gotten either a mclaren or an old-school gto judge.

got one better for ya lol the bugatti veyron

on your stock 2.2 engine its not about how much boost youre going to run, is "for how long your car is gonna run":lol: oh and how are u planning to get 220-230hp? putting a cold air intake with the supercharger:lol: :lol:

well the aftermarket turbo kits for our cars do it pretty well...

why do you think I couldn't get 220-230whp out of my car by adding the m62? Also note I'm not using the stock pulley.

got one better for ya lol the bugatti veyron

eh. Not a big fan of the looks

[QUOTE=kawasakizx6rr;1501319]

well the aftermarket turbo kits for our cars do it pretty well...

why do you think I couldn't get 220-230whp out of my car by adding the m62? Also note I'm not using the stock pulley.

do you know about compression ratio?? and BOOSSSSSST how much do you think youre going to boost after dropping the m62 on your 2.2l with wayyy more compression ratio than the 2.0sc, and weaker internals??? and you THINK u can even change the pulleys and your car just gain 100+hp more ? just like magic pls explain me how??

do you know about compression ratio?? and BOOSSSSSST how much do you think youre going to boost after dropping the m62 on your 2.2l with wayyy more compression ratio than the 2.0sc, and weaker internals??? and you THINK u can even change the pulleys and your car just gain 100+hp more ? just like magic pls explain me how??

actually the added compression makes it possible to run less boost to make the same power levels as the lsj. Last I checked the l61 had something like a 9.3:1 compression ratio. It's not like that's WAAAAY higher than the lsj's 8 something ratio. The fact is I still have plenty of room for boost. Like I said before, it's not like the turbo kits for our cars have a hard time doing it.

[QUOTE=Novajoe;1501358] Last I checked the l61 had something like a 9.3:1 compression ratio.

OMG IGNORANT YOU ARE TALKING ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT YOUR CAR AND U DONT EVEN KNOW YOUR COMPRESSION???? ITS "10.0" FOR YOUR ROOKIE ASS

OMG IGNORANT YOU ARE TALKING ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT YOUR CAR AND U DONT EVEN KNOW YOUR COMPRESSION???? ITS "10.0" FOR YOUR ROOKIE ASS

true. just did a search. Also stock lsj compression is 9.5... so we've only got .5 compression over an lsj... Yea that's soooo much higher:lol:

true. just did a search. Also stock lsj compression is 9.5... so we've only got .5 compression over an lsj... Yea that's soooo much higher:lol:

:lol: :lol:

[QUOTE=kawasakizx6rr;1501388]:lol: :lol:[/QUOTE

well still higher

the fact is, the lsj isn't that much different from the l61. Just a different rotating assymbly and a small difference in the cam profile. With proper tuning there should be no reason that a 2.2 couldn't at least get stock lsj hp levels with the m62.

Hell yellowshowbalt ran the assymbly on his 2.2 for month and only blew a cat. That's with no tuning at all. I'd have to believe that with a tuned maf and some tweaks to the ign tables that running it reliably on stock internals isn't that big of a task.

[QUOTE=Novajoe;1501390]the fact is, the lsj isn't that much different from the l61. Just a different rotating assymbly and a small difference in the cam profile.

wow "just that" :lol: :lol: are u sure??

[QUOTE=Novajoe;1501390]the fact is, the lsj isn't that much different from the l61. Just a different rotating assymbly and a small difference in the cam profile.

wow "just that" :lol: :lol: are u sure??

yes I am. It's nothing that can't be cured with tuning.

all that said. There's several 2.2s running turbo set-ups right now. No problems. What makes you think it would be so much harder with a supercharger?

alright kawasaki...im gonna tell you a little somethin about superchargin a 2.2, as it happens to be something im doing....
retarding ignition has the same effect as lowering compression...aka our 10:1 CR can run the EXACT SAME as your 9.5:1 CR if you retard ignition

as for internals, the rods will probably break around 300bhp under boost, as they broke just over 280 under nitrous, so the engine can safely support 250bhp

getting to 230whp should be easy....a 3" or 3.1" pulley, in addition to the extra .2L we have, will get us there no problem.

as for buying an ss s.c

my cobalt LS=$13k
my supercharger =$2.5k including install and tuning
thats $15.5....the day you find a NEW ss s/c for that much cash is the day i buy one...and note, there have been LS cobalts bought in the $11k range

you obviously dont know anything about the car your driving to be making these kinds of comments, as there are VERY few differences between our engines

what are you useing for tuning? since there is no crack for the 2.2 ecu the car will run lean and would be a waste.. Unless you get a piggy-back ECU through one of the vendors. But from a dealer they wont install a supercharger on your car unless it comes stock like that

and why is it ignorant?? because you are going to put so much money on a car like this when at the end you realize that you are not going to have a reliable car, is going to be a headache
and that between the price of the car and the money you spent is more than a ss/sc?? plus having the piece of mind of a warranty and a car that was made for a supercharger am i being ignorant or u just are an EXTREME idiot???

read the other posts you made that I quoted, and then you tell me. you have no idea what you're talking about.

thats a good price now have u thought about the price for a new engine+tranny after the motor blows up?

the tranny is plenty strong. and when it gets to that point, what do you do? ding ding ding! Upgrade!!

tunning???? what about internals?? do u think they would handle it for more than a month?


internals can handle more than double the whp that the 2.2 puts out. and this is again a completely ignorant statement. when you upgrade an engine enough, you will have to make internal/supporting upgrades.

this is an EXTREMELY ignorant statement. please end yourself.



they lied. they'll tell you anything to sell you a car.
not entirely - the build book illustrates this exact path. heaton + gm supercharger reflash. done.

not entirely - the build book illustrates this exact path. heaton + gm supercharger reflash. done.

on a cobalt though? i don't think that's possible.

so the main question is without futher interuptions, can the 2.2 be supercharged?????????

so the main question is without futher interuptions, can the 2.2 be supercharged?????????

YES.

It's been done before without tuning, others will pickup on the project with some sort of tuning, either SMT-6, AEM FI/C, or some sort of other custom tuning.

awesome :cssNET:

what are you useing for tuning? since there is no crack for the 2.2 ecu the car will run lean and would be a waste.. Unless you get a piggy-back ECU through one of the vendors. But from a dealer they wont install a supercharger on your car unless it comes stock like that

AEM F/IC

and to answer the questions above...you cant reflash the cobalt with GM's tune..that tune was made for the cavi's and sunfire's ecu

To the OP. YES you can supercharger your 2.2. ITs the cheapest form of FI at this time. Buy the m62, intake mani, and heat exchanger off a ss/sc and your set. Buy the AEM FIC for tuning, some larger injectors and wire them into the FIC. You now have the ability to run larger injectors and have complete control over them.

kawasakizx6rr... please kill yourself now. You really dont need to be coming into a section you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about, and bashing it. please drive your inferior ss/sc off a cliff.

To the OP. YES you can supercharger your 2.2. ITs the cheapest form of FI at this time. Buy the m62, intake mani, and heat exchanger off a ss/sc and your set. Buy the AEM FIC for tuning, some larger injectors and wire them into the FIC. You now have the ability to run larger injectors and have complete control over them.

kawasakizx6rr... please kill yourself now. You really dont need to be coming into a section you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about, and bashing it. please drive your inferior ss/sc off a cliff.

well it's a little more than that... but I do agree with kawasaki driving off a cliff... Then again I don't care what he does as long as he doesn't have kids.

well it's a little more than that... but I do agree with kawasaki driving off a cliff... Then again I don't care what he does as long as he doesn't have kids.

yeah i am getting sick again, i dont feel like going into details haha.

To the OP. YES you can supercharger your 2.2. ITs the cheapest form of FI at this time. Buy the m62, intake mani, and heat exchanger off a ss/sc and your set. Buy the AEM FIC for tuning, some larger injectors and wire them into the FIC. You now have the ability to run larger injectors and have complete control over them.

kawasakizx6rr... please kill yourself now. You really dont need to be coming into a section you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about, and bashing it. please drive your inferior ss/sc off a cliff.

of course "please kill yourself now" "please drive your inferior ss/sc off a cliff.[/QUOTE]" i only imagine the type of people on this 2.2 section but of course i forgot its the "lower class" section since they can barely afford a $10,000 p.o.s. car, look man like i said before i gave my opinion and people start hating and btw i know people with your p.o.s. cars, all womans of course (some hot) so why insulting when i havent insulted anybody?? or is it because of that inferiority feeling of the 2.2 g(a)ys that instead of debating my opinion everybody starts talking shit .... i guess ill never know:thumbsdow

kawasakizx6rr... I just cant wait for the day that you get ur ass handed to you by a F/I 2.2 and you cry urself to sleep.. with all the new products coming out for the 2.2 soon youll find out what the 2.2 is capable of and find well spend at least 8000 dollars less than you.. like everyone else says. go back to the 2.0 section cause you dont know what the hell uur talking about

kawasakizx6rr... I just cant wait for the day that you get ur ass handed to you by a F/I 2.2 and you cry urself to sleep.. with all the new products coming out for the 2.2 soon youll find out what the 2.2 is capable of and find well spend at least 8000 dollars less than you.. like everyone else says. go back to the 2.0 section cause you dont know what the hell uur talking about

( I just cant wait for the day that you get ur ass handed to you by a F/I 2.2 and you cry urself to sleep).. 1st i could give shit if somebody smoke me,the ss/sc is my gas saver btw, so unless im a stupid kid like you, ill cry if i got smoke
2nd: i dont think any gay ass " tu,tu" (2.2) can take the ss/sc anytime soon
3rd: i do have a 2.2l but its use for the company. so yeah im here because i have one.
4th: if you dont like what i say F:cussing: K YOU.

lol kawa, you're such a whiner. Live and let live.

But, I'm all for building up my 2.2, Im wondering how much power I can manage to get out of the engine block without F/I and not pulling the entire engine apart and rebuilding it as a different engine.

It should be interesting in the next few years the kinds of applied technology that comes out for the Eco-Tec series. I personally wouldnt have minded a 2.4 myself, but a 2.2 does the job for getting me from a and b. It'd be nice if it got me there in 9 seconds though. LOL.

but good on all you guys F/I'ing your 2.2's, It'll be good once we get some more people out there paving the way for newbies like myself, so I wont be so lost when my engine warranty expires and I start pulling it apart.

wow u all !!!! lets try to get back on the subject. my car runs great still even tho my trans is busted i dont have the time nor money right know to fix it. and it was six months and still counting with 18000 miles of being SC at 14psi the 2.2 can take it fine. no probs.

i payed 11,500 out the door and SC for 1800 total with stage 2 pully and injectors and a 1500 RK sport body kit with hood and scion rear wing 14,800 and my car is cheaper on insurance too. and even with the 3 tranys i have had to put in there at 650 a pop. my car is still cheaper 16,750. and i will rape u i u run me. ive done it numerious times.

GM can tune the Cobalts if they want...... The million dollar question is, will they!? No because they want you to go buy an overpriced SS/sc or NA intead of making more power for less money aftermarket.

why waste money on that when u can get a srt-8 charger, i got a cobalt cuz of financial situations and i needed to build my credit but if i had access to any car i want i would have gotten a srt-8 or a zo6 corvette

why spend all the cash on a srt-8 and pay all your money in gas for sure. Why not just boost the 2.2 which is way cheaper in the long run. I paid 12,900 for my 2007 cobalt lt and i can buy the turbo kit for 3k which is still way cheaper than a 25k srt-8. Im glad i went cheaper as my car will be paid off by january 08. I only owe 4k on it since i have been making triple payments, and it will be nice having a brand new car and no car payment.

of course "please kill yourself now" "please drive your inferior ss/sc off a cliff." i only imagine the type of people on this 2.2 section but of course i forgot its the "lower class" section since they can barely afford a $10,000 p.o.s. car, look man like i said before i gave my opinion and people start hating and btw i know people with your p.o.s. cars, all womans of course (some hot) so why insulting when i havent insulted anybody?? or is it because of that inferiority feeling of the 2.2 g(a)ys that instead of debating my opinion everybody starts talking shit .... i guess ill never know:thumbsdow[/QUOTE]

Your opinion is that its not possible nor worth it, which is completely wrong. I dont like when people come in here filling peoples heads with BS because they have no idea what they are talking about. Im not here to start shit with anyone on the forums, im a very friendly and helpful person. So please just make sure your comments are rational and useful.

Your opinion is that its not possible nor worth it, which is completely wrong. I dont like when people come in here filling peoples heads with BS because they have no idea what they are talking about. Im not here to start shit with anyone on the forums, im a very friendly and helpful person. So please just make sure your comments are rational and useful.

agreed...its just dumb that yor saying our cars are girly cars or cheap cars when you have the EXACT same thing....theres a slightly different body, and a supercharger...those two things dont make a girls car a guys car....so your either dissing your own taste in cars, or your wrong

You would think the SS/SC guys would want to help the 2.2Ls out because they are the slowest Cobalt and what usually give the cobalt a bad rep. I don't think my LT is slow, but it's not as fast as an SS.

Yeah, lets just be nice to each other, its like some guy who owns a bugatti veyron coming into the 2.0l section and start saying.

"HAHAHA, You girl men drive little girl cars, My car goes 407 Km/h, HOHOHOHO. It breathes more oxygen in 1 minute than all four of you will breathe in your entire life times!. hohohohoho."

Who cares what you drive, the whole point of these forums is because we are all driving Cobalts or 2.*l eco-tecs and we are trying to help each other out by sharing our knowledge of tuning and giving newbs like myself a heads up on what to do and what not to do.

Seriously, If i could afford a nice car, i'd still have bought a cobalt, because its all I need, its mine, I own it and Im proud to own a car, not everyone makes the big bucks. Hell, some of us still live with our parents(unless im the only one,lol, im only 22.)

Lets get back to the issue at hand, Is it possible to Supercharge the 2.2?

I heard that GM dealerships WOULD put a supercharger onto your 2.2 and then flash it with the 2.0l ECU fuel injection timings. Cost around 3500 cdn, but thats not too terrible.

The question at hand is this true or not? Im sure HPTuners.com will eventually make compatibility with the 2005+ Cobalt ECU's , but in the mean time I think its like the other guys have been saying, you'd have to use a piggy-back system. I'd personally think it'd be nicer to use something along the lines of HPTuners, because then you know the data link will be consistent.

Yeah, lets just be nice to each other, its like some guy who owns a bugatti veyron coming into the 2.0l section and start saying.

"HAHAHA, You girl men drive little girl cars, My car goes 407 Km/h, HOHOHOHO. It breathes more oxygen in 1 minute than all four of you will breathe in your entire life times!. hohohohoho."

Who cares what you drive, the whole point of these forums is because we are all driving Cobalts or 2.*l eco-tecs and we are trying to help each other out by sharing our knowledge of tuning and giving newbs like myself a heads up on what to do and what not to do.

Seriously, If i could afford a nice car, i'd still have bought a cobalt, because its all I need, its mine, I own it and Im proud to own a car, not everyone makes the big bucks. Hell, some of us still live with our parents(unless im the only one,lol, im only 22.)

Lets get back to the issue at hand, Is it possible to Supercharge the 2.2?

I heard that GM dealerships WOULD put a supercharger onto your 2.2 and then flash it with the 2.0l ECU fuel injection timings. Cost around 3500 cdn, but thats not too terrible.

The question at hand is this true or not? Im sure HPTuners.com will eventually make compatibility with the 2005+ Cobalt ECU's , but in the mean time I think its like the other guys have been saying, you'd have to use a piggy-back system. I'd personally think it'd be nicer to use something along the lines of HPTuners, because then you know the data link will be consistent.

No man, they cannot do that. The reflash is made for the cavi/sunfire. Will not work with 05-06 or 07 L61's. The only thing you have right now is either going with SCT's canned tune or piggyback. I know a company who is developing a nice way to tune for turbo/centri superchargers but it will not work with the M62 roots or twinscrew type blowers because of the way the SC mounts to the intake manifold.

But yes you can supercharger the 2.2 fairly easily. If it made enough power for me i would have gone that route, but its not gonna make 400whp... lol.

Some of us are stuck in a lease... DOH! I can totally afford a 2.0 now.

wow u all !!!! lets try to get back on the subject. my car runs great still even tho my trans is busted i dont have the time nor money right know to fix it. and it was six months and still counting with 18000 miles of being SC at 14psi the 2.2 can take it fine. no probs.

i payed 11,500 out the door and SC for 1800 total with stage 2 pully and injectors and a 1500 RK sport body kit with hood and scion rear wing 14,800 and my car is cheaper on insurance too. and even with the 3 tranys i have had to put in there at 650 a pop. my car is still cheaper 16,750. and i will rape u i u run me. ive done it numerious times.


yup thats why i was trying to sell someone. Way cheaper to buy a 2.2 and then do what you want to it. I knwo people with a SS that have upgraded to stage 2, lowered there car, new rims, new exhaust, guages, so here they paid alot and there still pumping money in to it so there is people with a supercharged that have between 25k-30k with the cost of car + mods.

Hell I bought my 2.2 for 13,5. I could have bought a 350z, an EVO, hell even a z06 if i wanted. I have two cars with payments totalling 600$/month, if i got rid of my winter SUV (that I gave to my girlfriend to drive-still paying for it though, lazy poor college bitches!! lol) I could buy an EVO. But instead of being an idiot and wasting all of my money on a car that will surely cost 6000$/year for insurance, I bought a "dailey-driver project car" to get to learn alittle more and get some hands on experiance, and possibly but a car thats faster when im about 25 and I dont have to pay up the ass. My LT will be faster than an SS/SC by quite a bit when im done with it. Only 1 thing I can see wrong with the lt is the fact that its front wheel drive, and even SS/SCs are front wheel. I hate haters. lol

Eh. I don't buy new cars. I bought my cobalt wrecked for 3k. Once I can find a good used solstice gxp I'm gonna try and get one of those.

Eh. I don't buy new cars. I bought my cobalt wrecked for 3k. Once I can find a good used solstice gxp I'm gonna try and get one of those.

sky reline is the way to go man...i just dont like the solstice's rounded front end....otherwise, theyre the same in my book

Yeah the sky looks alot better in my opinion. very nice car though, im not a big fan of most of the saturns styling, but they hit the sky nail right on the head

Yeah the sky looks alot better in my opinion. very nice car though, im not a big fan of most of the saturns styling, but they hit the sky nail right on the head

mmmmm sky redline... My next car lol.

Nova, if you EVER find a wrecked one, let me know man!

yea man...you will do fine if you supercharge a 2.2 it has been done before and i think i have seen it on youtube or streetfire...one of the places like that and the internals will hold up fine with it...the cobalt that they use at the drag tracks actually use the 2.2 blocks

Yes, but highly modified ones at that. Not to mention, a sand casted head which you can't just up and buy ;)...but have to get through GM Racing, and that my friend, is not cheap. (voice of experience)

mmmmm sky redline... My next car lol.

Nova, if you EVER find a wrecked one, let me know man!

yea I got lucky with my cobalt. A washboy at a dealership that was close to me in phoenix wrecked it up. I had a friend that worked there that told me about it and I went up there and bought it from them as it was for 3k with 90miles on it.

I had to replace the lower control arm, the rack and pinion, the bcm, the radiator, did some fabricating on the rear subframe as it was bent a little bit, replaced both the front rims, and got it a new fender, front bumper cover, and driver side mirror.

personally I like the solstice better, but I'd take a sky too. With a car like that I'd rather buy one used than wrecked. I figure if I wait a few years and buy one used then there'll be plenty of aftermarket to mess with then. A big turbo solstice would be the shit.

Yes, but highly modified ones at that. Not to mention, a sand casted head which you can't just up and buy ;)...but have to get through GM Racing, and that my friend, is not cheap. (voice of experience)

ummm, aren't the lsj heads sand casted? But I agree with you. You can't really compare any stock motor to the ones they use in the big budget drag cars. Those motors get so worked over they aren't even close to what our ecotecs are anymore. Billet everything, diff bore, diff stroke, big valves, cams, dry sump oil... the only thing that keeps it an ecotec is the name on the valvecover

On page 22 of the 600+hp GM Build Book, it says under the parts: Race—Prepped SAAB 2.0L Cylinder Head XGH614.

It's one that's already prepped to assemble.

Yes, I fully agreed those things get worked over. My engine was just at Roush Industries getting the full run down.

On page 22 of the 600+hp GM Build Book, it says under the parts: Race—Prepped SAAB 2.0L Cylinder Head XGH614.

It's one that's already prepped to assemble.

Yes, I fully agreed those things get worked over. My engine was just at Roush Industries getting the full run down.

isn't the saab 2.0 head more or less the same as the lsj 2.0 head?

tunning???? what about internals?? do u think they would handle it for more than a month?

Sorry but you're a ignorant cunt.

You do realize that the L61 has been out in AMERICA since 2001-2002, right? Other platforms have done plenty of work on them. I can name a few people off the top of my head while on a stock motor they ran 12s to 13s for a long period of time. Hell, one guy from the JBO still holds the forum record of very high 11s on a completely stock engine and he did that for a good while.

Sorry to call you a cunt but you're preaching about how it's this and that and it's evident you don't know your history about the L61s.



do you know about compression ratio?? and BOOSSSSSST how much do you think youre going to boost after dropping the m62 on your 2.2l with wayyy more compression ratio than the 2.0sc, and weaker internals??? and you THINK u can even change the pulleys and your car just gain 100+hp more ? just like magic pls explain me how??

Funny cause GM sells a kit for the L61s and warrantys it...

It's 10.0:1 compression and from your ignorant statments you're another guy who thinks static compression ratios decide the path of a vehicles setup, when in reality it doesn't.

Navajoe is correct. The higher static compression allows for him to run LESS boost and make the same amount of power, so this means staying within the M62s efficiency range as well.

I have a friend who had a Cavalier w/a M62 3.5" pulley and produced 230 WHP. Ran just fine. And yes, that's about 100 more WHP than what they produce in stock form.

But yeah, must be magic, huh?

couple days too late, but good job adam

I dont care if it was a year late, he needed to be called a cunt.


All I know is when my LT is where I want it to be im gonna be alot happier than I would be if I had just bought an SS/SC, with the same price investment as one in the end.

I dont care if it was a year late, he needed to be called a cunt.


All I know is when my LT is where I want it to be im gonna be alot happier than I would be if I had just bought an SS/SC, with the same price investment as one in the end.

ROFLDANGLE!

the irony is that adam has never owned a "crappy cobalt", and actually currently drives a mitsu eclipse, which is a much nicer car "than your crappy ss s/c"

as for the last sentence...i would say your 12, but your driving, so i guess i have to put it at 16.

btw nova, hows your project comin? i just bought my FIC today

it's coming along ok. I'm putting the cooling system togeather right now. Going to use 2 smaller heat exhchangers in the wheel wells to draw air from the fog light vents. Just need an intercooler pump really and waiting on the heat exhangers. Ordered the exhaust piping. That'll be here on thurs so I'll get that all bent up and fitted.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the megasquirt as far as tuning goes. Right now I'm still looking into it. Call me crazy but I'd just rather have more control than what the aem offers. If it comes down to it then I might go that route, but I would rather see if I can get a megasquirt to work.

nice. interesting idea with the heat exchangers, but it sounds like it would work great. good luck to your tuning, and its always good to just do what your comfortable with. Im not a very good tuner, so im going with just enough to get the job done

nice. interesting idea with the heat exchangers, but it sounds like it would work great. good luck to your tuning, and its always good to just do what your comfortable with. Im not a very good tuner, so im going with just enough to get the job done

yea I'm sure the aem won't have any problem getting the job done. I just REALLY want to get rid of the stock rev limiter so I can adjust for bigger and better cams and more advanced modifications down the road. Plus I like how the magatune software is set up.

If I could do trans tuning with it... it would be my future wife:lol:

i didnt read thru the entire post but the comments on the limits of the 2.2 are just flat out dumb. 1st of all gm has a s/c kit for the l61 cavaliers some of whom have his 250hp on stock internals, in addition to that there are a number of turbo l61 cavs who have more power than even that. of course im not saying that the l61 is as stout as the lsj but dont underestimate it thats all

ok. its official. spoke with my dealer today. gm does make a supercharger for the 2.2l ecotec engine. not sure on the price. but it is available.

ok. its official. spoke with my dealer today. gm does make a supercharger for the 2.2l ecotec engine. not sure on the price. but it is available.

ya but is it for the cobalt?????????

i believe its for the cavalier. go check ur dealer

well i jus got destroyed in my other post. and i will go check. but i had been talking to him about it and i told him that i had cobalt, and then after i asked if they made a supercharger for the 2.2l cobalts yet? and he said they do. so when i get a chance ill stop by and ask. at least u guys are nicer here. lol

here ill chime in here . I am the first recorded and still running 2.2 LS 06 cobalt. SC

there is a SC kit for the 03-04 cavys but the reflash wont work on are computers. now you can buy the SC off a 05-06 cobalt SS and put on a 2.2. but you have to buy every piece. or you can buy the SC and intake off ebay and the dampener and idler pully and go to to local hardware store for grade 8 bolts for 1/3rd of the price and theres still no tuning if you want tunning its AEM-FI piggy back or SMT-6 or SMT-7 or full standalones that can get real pricey quick.

( I just cant wait for the day that you get ur ass handed to you by a F/I 2.2 and you cry urself to sleep).. 1st i could give shit if somebody smoke me,the ss/sc is my gas saver btw, so unless im a stupid kid like you, ill cry if i got smoke
2nd: i dont think any gay ass " tu,tu" (2.2) can take the ss/sc anytime soon
3rd: i do have a 2.2l but its use for the company. so yeah im here because i have one.
4th: if you dont like what i say F:cussing: K YOU.

can you imagine how he'd act if he owned a SS/TC? :spam: kawasakizx6rr= spam

LOL, i noticed this is a very old thread just reading up on S/C, thinking about doing it to my 2.2ls

Mine is still up and running yellowshowbalt was #1 and opened alot of doors for everyone my car was # 2 to be supercharged i am running the AEM FIC piggyback for tuning

all i have to say is turbo...

( I just cant wait for the day that you get ur ass handed to you by a F/I 2.2 and you cry urself to sleep).. 1st i could give shit if somebody smoke me,the ss/sc is my gas saver btw, so unless im a stupid kid like you, ill cry if i got smoke
2nd: i dont think any gay ass " tu,tu" (2.2) can take the ss/sc anytime soon
3rd: i do have a 2.2l but its use for the company. so yeah im here because i have one.
4th: if you dont like what i say F:cussing: K YOU.



this "tu,tu" could own any of the 2.0 S/C's out there. the fact is that the 2.2 is a better platform for building off of once you get up into high-end builds (although the two engines are almost exactly the same).

http://www.tunerzine.com/view_news/news_project_car_announcement/whitfield-racing-gm-cobalt-part-5

of course "please kill yourself now" "please drive your inferior ss/sc off a cliff." i only imagine the type of people on this 2.2 section but of course i forgot its the "lower class" section since they can barely afford a $10,000 p.o.s. car, look man like i said before i gave my opinion and people start hating and btw i know people with your p.o.s. cars, all womans of course (some hot) so why insulting when i havent insulted anybody?? or is it because of that inferiority feeling of the 2.2 g(a)ys that instead of debating my opinion everybody starts talking shit .... i guess ill never know:thumbsdow[/QUOTE]

shut the fuck up. you give me a fucking headache with every post.

#1 Brand new 2.2 Ecotec ENGINE $2000 DOLLAR PLUS 500$ FOR INSTALL.
IF HE BLOWS IT THE FUCK UP ILL CUT HIM A DEAL.
#2 ITS HIS BOLT, LET HIM DO WHAT THE FUCK HE WANTS TO DO. IF HE WANTS TO PUT A FUCKING LEXUS BODYKIT ON IT. LET HIM, NOT A DAMN THING YOU CAN, AND WILL DO ABOUT IT
#3 STOP FUCKING POSTING BULLSHIT

ah i shall put my little .02 in! I plan on also supercharging my 2.2...im not gonna kill my car, im not gonna blow it up. Im gonna tune my car [*crosses fingers for this weekend!*] so i wont have to piggyback anything. i can straight up tune my car for the supercharger. I will be able to keep up/and or beat the SS's. It really wont take much for me to do all this either. the 2.2 is GM's platform for the race engines. Is it a SS's 2.0...noooooo. IF i could i afford a SS, yea i prolly would have gotten one but we arnt all rich. We'd all be driving McLarens if we were. So before you start this 2.0 vs 2.2 argument...just remember..our tune is around the corner...we're coming after you!

ok from what I've read I dunno if the origonal question has been answered... I'm considering putting the sc on my ion sedan and I have a parts list but a price per part would be nice to give some of us an idea on the over all cost.

once the tuning comes out then it will be easiier

tired of l61 hating.....

lsj folks need to get off the high horse.

10.0 compression, although not optimal for force induction, is more than capable. I mean, hello people.....GM kit for the L61 Cavi raises it to 200hp......and thats from the factory.

so......why hate? psh i wish i had the money to get an l61 with upgraded rods and pistons and a turbo.....then i'd be happy to spank lsj's all damn day.

hey vibrantcobalt why don't you put your money where your mouth is and race my little 2.2 cobalt... and for another thing not all mommy's and daddy's can buy a 20,000 dollor and give it to there son. MINES BUILT NOT BOUGHT

ok so what we looking at on average?


$$$$$??

over a grand at least....depends on who you know, how you get it, installation etc....

does any one want to buy my supercharger kit.. make a real offer and ill let you know.. im selling all my parts as a hole kit becouse im trying to get a house and im letting it all go

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/yellowcobaltwiring207.jpg

plus theres another case and other parts that goes with them

is it the complete kit??? besides the tune if so i might be interested if price is right

is that a complete kit and whats the price of that as i am interested.

1800.00 for everything including tunning

1800.00 for everything including tunning

standalone tuning correct so it will fit my 2007 2.2.

yes it will it will work on any 2.0-2.2-2.4 ecotec engine.. and the tunning will work on any engine.

hey is all your shit off the car right now? got anything good for sale

even a 2007 2.2?

yes every thing is off.. ill post all the pics tonight of what you will get.. everything

so whats the price? hahahah

oooo a complete SC kit, with everything i need to put it on?
mmmm
VERY tempting..
we need TUNING!

so whats the price? hahahah

oooo a complete SC kit, with everything i need to put it on?
mmmm
VERY tempting..
we need TUNING!

hes selling the piggyback to tune it....he said it a couple times..lol

I just just jumped to the last post...aha.
I read the first 4 pages and was like fuck it. hah

go to supercharers for sale thread for all the pics but heres a few...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale021.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale022.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale023.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale024.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale026.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale027.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale029.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/stuff4sale030.jpg

ok here is what you will get for 2000.00 plus shiping obo..

air fuel gauge, boost gauge, supercharger, with extra case, intake, all brackets, and bolts, with stage2 pully and injectors, and stock pully with stock belt and stage 2 belt, a 2 bar map sensor, with wide band o2 sensor and software, smt-7 piggy back system for tunning, gaskets, C6 corvette intercooler, and high flow intercooler pump with hoses and wiring, all systems have the complete wiring with quick connects, and heres the pics o everything that you will be getting.....i changed the price becouse i added more stuff...

i might split up pending what you want but i need to let this go

just trade it in for a ss/sc why waste money on making a 2.2 fast??

Why did you waste your money on a zx6 AND a zx10 when you coulda had a zx14??

Why do people ask retarded questions?
I bought a 2.2L because I WANTED 4 doors. Thats right I said it. I actually wanted 4 doors and since thy dont make a 2.0 sc or tc 4door, I guess it's a 2.2L. So why can't people with 2.2L strive to get the most power they can? If someone wants to bolt a supercharger on their car and blow it up in a month (which won't happen) why tell them they are wasting money? Just sit there with your silver spoon in your CLOSED mouth while helpful people try to answer his very valid questions please.

Thank you.

Soap box stowed.

any takers

whats the $$ again? i can't remember and kinda lazt to lurk to find.

whats the $$ again? i can't remember and kinda lazt to lurk to find.

It's only 4 posts up......:lol:

lol, ah crap but your post made a new page. lol :)

1800 not bad, how worked is the blower?

not bad its only 15000 miles on it but theres 2 sets of new rotor bearings that go with it and another case too.

yah i saw that. if you give me your word it's still quality, and if you still have it by the time i get the money im there. im in the middle of paying off credit cards and stuff right now. but i'll know when i can get that money prolly by friday. + ima most likely get that tune too.

you have my word its in great shape the rotors, bearings ,case, pullys everything.. i bought everything new except the supercharger and manafold i had the sc rebuilt before i installed the setup on my car there is all so another case thats like new, becouse i cut the hole v out of the other case to low my iats and lose 2-3 psi of boost becouse i was running no tune at all.. and i new if i was going to sell this i needed another case so people could swap in a perfect case with no problems.

nice. yah well i watched all your vids like a long time ago. and was like damn. It sounds really good. and it seems to whine alot, seems louder. (which is nice :twothumbs ).

i really hope i can get the cash for this before someone jumps on it. it's really up to the wife to spend the money if i have it. but she's getting into the idea of a SC and asking questions, and wanted to see the pics of what i'd get and all the vids of your set up. she loves racing people and winning, so anything to help it more she'll prolly want to do.

will i need a new clutch? this one catch's like a wuss. will i need a new tranny? or will mine hold up for a bit. what can i avoid so i don't blow it.



:cssNET:

your trany will be fine if you dont spin the tires alot,meaning burn outs, you stock clutch will be ok too if you dont spin the tires. it will be fine. i raced my car at the track every weekend so i had to change my clutch..

yah i heard the track is real hard on the clutch. to sticky or something. i know i'll blow it out. if the sc clutch's get blown out mine will for sure.

but i'll just drive real careful till i can change it. if i get this.

yah i heard the track is real hard on the clutch. to sticky or something. i know i'll blow it out. if the sc clutch's get blown out mine will for sure.

but i'll just drive real careful till i can change it. if i get this.

Famous last words........;):lol:

well it looks like its gone ill know friday if not ill let everyone know..

^ ok cool, thanks for the updates.

even if it's gone, i will prolly need your help so i know all the parts to buy and best way to install. thanks man.


yah, i know famous last words for sure, i can't stop killing my tires on my 2.2 right now and all i got is a header, catback, and cai. but slamming into second and breaking the tires is just way to fun, :lol: lol

hey magcobalt if you keep doing that you will send your diff spiders out the side of the trans case trust me on this ive done it to 3 tranys im on my 5th now and ive only got 40000 miles on my car..

hey magcobalt if you keep doing that you will send your diff spiders out the side of the trans case trust me on this ive done it to 3 tranys im on my 5th now and ive only got 40000 miles on my car..

whats that mean? I always see people barking second. why should i try to catch second without the chirp and stuff? I have done it maybe like 20-30 times. I have 84000 km on my car. thanks for the info, man you know alot.

think you know why my coolant is now at 76-79C, when it used to be 86-89C?

theres lots of reasons why the temp of your coolent can change outside air temp is one, a air bubble calt in one of your hoses could do it, what have you done or changed since then..

this is what will hapen if you keep doing that.....
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/transrebuild042.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/yellowshowbalt/transrebuild013.jpg

just normal redline first and chirp second? or doing burn-outs? that looks bad. lol.

i went to my dealer today and he ordered three ss/tc's and he said he'll help me sell my car so i can trade up.