I was reading about the new Pontiac Solstice getting the 2.2 Ecotec turbocharged
so i was wondering if you think GM will put this engine in the Cobalt SS to replace our supercharged model?


Its a entirely different way to put more power on a engine for sure but who know?

 

When the Solstice GPX is released,so to should the Cobalt w/ a turbo aswell.

 

I highly doubt GM will change the SS to a fourth motor setup for the cobalt.

Turbo+Cobalt SS= not happening from the factory.

 

But it will be a easy swap for those who are interested.

GO TURBO!

 

ive always been under the impression the 2.0 s/c motor was only going to be around a limited time

and was going to be changed in a few years


but with all rumors , its still to early to tell yet

 

GM's Lori Queen said from the get go , before the Cobalt SS was out, that the supercharger would be short lived . Think back to the timeframe of the Cobalt colored 1st showcar of the SS , I think it was in 2004 .

Again for anyone wondering the fate of the Cobalt SS and changes made , pay close attention to the Ion replacement , which is a Opel Astra . You are likely gonna hear all about that car before updates to the Cobalt . That car will be built alongside the Cobalt at lordstown ( Springhill will be one those 12 GM plants getting shut down ) . The Opel Astra VXR , which would be the Redline equivelent , is currently powered by a 240hp 2.0 turbocharged eco . With the market appeal Saturn is shooting for with their entire portfolio , and the fact that it's fact Saturn will become the American arm of the Opel division , its not very likely the new Ion will retain the 2.0 SC eco .

Also , when this was brought up before ....a common comment was "why would GM abandon the 2.0 SC engine after only 2 years in the Cobalt?" Remeber though , the 2.0 SC was done deal and in production in the Redline before the Cobalt SS was released . The SS version of the engine with the exception of the location of the maf and some pcm calibration changes was unchanged . By the time the new Ion is released (2007 as a 2008 ) the 2.0 SC will have been in production for 4 complete model years . How plausable does the change sound now All of GM's future development with the ecotec , save for the GMPD aftermarket stg1 and stage 2 kits for the SC engine , are with turbochargers .

 

OMG its the SOLSTICE GT, not the GTP or the GXP or the G6, or The GTO its the GT.

You may see the CSSC become the CSTC, but it wont be anytime soon.

 

GM has stuck with superchargers for years and years. Just think of the Grand Prix GTPs and Bonneville SSEis. Superchargers are much more reliable - no need for a supercharger timer for cool down. If GM looses money on fixing turbos, it looses money period. Also, from what I have heard, Eaton handles the warentee on it's superchargers, thus saving GM that pain in the ass.

The only reason I could see the 2.0 Ecotec getting a turbo is because Saab has proven one already. But I wouldn't be so quick to count the supercharger out.

 

The Cobalt is not getting a Turbo. Why would they just now be releasing staged kits for the 2.0L Supercharged if they were going to replace it in six months? Think about what you are saying! These rumors are all BS. Last I heard, the Solstice was getting our LSJ instead of a turbo!!!

There is no way the Cobalt will get a Turbo. The supercharger is here to stay for a few years at least!

 

I think some of us are forgetting the SS is FWD and the solstice is RWD. So im thinking that the engine doesn't swap easily.

 

nope wont happen

 

only main differece will be the tranny and possible mount points...other than that

 

well, you at least might be able to get the turbo kit and add it to your s/c model and be twin charged. that would be bad ass. as for tuning, good luck!

 

Here is What will happen.
Cobalt SS in 08/09

AWD
2.4 Liter Turbod and Intercooled
285HP/265TQ
3100lbs (good for AWD)
2 door and 4 door models

PS: Only a prediction but that would be sick!!!

 

Is it? i heard it's GXP

 

Turbo Ecotec would replace the supercharged version I bet.

 

GM might go turbo but they still have good deals with superchargers. They will have to do the math and see if it is cheper for them or if they can sale more cars with a turbo insted of a super.

 

Again , keep a hawk eye in the new ION . It will spill the beans on the Cobalt

And in case everyone hasnt noticed , the superchargers are dissappearing . The only SC model left besides the 2006 Grand Prix GT is the Cobalt and Ion . The 3800 is a dead motor next year , and goes with it is its S/C .

 

yeah if the ss/sc would have been turbo i would have bought it but i dont think supercharger are that good on a small engine, turbo for gm would be a step in the right direction to pull more of the import croud over to the america car like the srt 4 did

 

Oh yeah, if we want to turbo our 2.0 motors, its all go for us!

 

Interesting always thought it would be difficult

 

Well, I thought they were gonna throw the LSJ in the Solstice/Sky, because of the issues of a turbo'd 2.0 they were running into?

 

The engine in the Solstice is a 2.4vvt engine with a Turbocharger . The LSJ is 100% NOT going in either of the kappa cars .

 

issues of a 2.0 turbo'd ????


the 2.0 s/c motor , is from the saab 9-3 turbo , with a s/c instead of the turbo


the problem with adding boost to the 2.4 is the VVT

 

why is vvt a problem? alot of turbo cars have this function, example being a supra, one of the best turbo cars in the world