Only happens in the states?
Only happens in the states?
I think not.
and if your lilly white liberal ass cant handle my bloodthirsty views....you can blow me.
the lack of rights to protect yourself in this country make me sick sometimes.
January 11, 2008
THE CANADIAN PRESS
EDMONTON – Lying bloodied and nearly naked on the floor of her downtown condo, the 29-year-old woman had one option left.
She'd just been raped in her bedroom, hacked and slashed in the face, head, hands and neck with a butcher blade until her mattress and pillows were slick with blood and the white bones of her pinky finger were exposed, in her words, like a split "chicken wing."
A violently angry, mixed-up teen loomed over her and was going to kill her, because he had a $10,000 bet that he would, she told Court of Queen's Bench today.
So she played dead in the pre-dawn darkness. Lay motionless. Stared straight up at him, her eyes wide open. She dared not breathe.
He stared right back, silently weighing whether his work was finally done.
The woman, who can't be named, was testifying at the trial of Ryan Huppie, 23, who faces a charge of attempted murder and related counts of sex assault in the Feb. 17, 2004 attack on the woman, who was his next-door neighbour at the time.
Huppie is not challenging that he committed the crime, but has pleaded not guilty on the grounds he was suffering from a mental disorder and wasn't criminally responsible.
The woman, now 33, told court she was a school vice-principal, active socially and athletically, with the "the world by the tail," when Huppie and five other youths moved into the condo next to her almost four years ago.
Days before the attack, a valentine asking her out and calling her a "hot babe" had been slipped under her door. The note would eventually yield a Huppie thumbprint.
The night before she was attacked, she told court, there had been loud music until almost 4:30 a.m. from the accused's place. She finally nodded off only to awake to find a figure at the foot of her bed with a meat cleaver and a long jagged knife.
He put a blade to her throat and told her, "I'm here to rape you and I'm here to kill you."
"I was in shock," she testified. "I couldn't believe this was happening in my bedroom.
"He said it was a $10,000 bet and that if he didn't (kill me), they would kill him."
The woman, who had worked with troubled youth, said persuasion was the only tool she had, and she tried to use it.
She told him she had a sexually transmitted disease, called him by the pseudonym on the valentine to build a bond and talked endlessly to him, trying to get him to see her as a person.
She promised to keep him free from harm and take him away to Vancouver – convincing him to the point he let her get dressed so they could leave. All the while she was manoeuvring him into what little light was bleeding through the window from the street below.
"I wanted to look him in the eye and see who this guy was."
Persuasion failed, however, and he eventually forced himself on her. It was then, she knew, that the end was near – and the fight was on.
"I co-operated on the rape," she said. "But I wasn't going to give him a body."
They struggled and thrashed. He smashed her head into the closet and began relentlessly pounding her skull with something blunt until she faked being dead.
He left and she called 911 to beg for help, only to have him return in a fury, beating and slashing anew, her hands hacked and mangled as she tried to save herself.
She bent her chin low to keep him from slashing her throat, steeling herself for the telltale spurt and gurgle of an opened artery.
She played dead again, she told court.
"I just lay there with my eyes wide open and I stared at him and he stared right back. You could see him thinking, `Finally, she's dead."'
But the ordeal continued.
He left. She called 911 again, now with hands so shredded she could hardly hold the phone.
She tried to leave through her front door only to have Huppie return a third time, this time through the open patio door.
She tearfully compared the scene to a macabre Hollywood slasher movie. "It's like trying to get through that locked door before he gets to you."
She stumbled into the hallway and into the home of a neighbour. Police arrived. In hospital, she listened as they stapled her lacerated skull back together. She identified Huppie in a picture from her hospital bed.
Huppie's mother testified earlier in the day that her son arrived at her place later to tell her, "Mom, I think I've done something wrong."
Suzanne Huppie said she then saw her son's face flashed on the TV news and she took him to police.
The victim testified she has undergone therapy similar to what soldiers receive for post-traumatic stress disorder and is working hard "to lead a normal life once again."
But she can't go running alone in Edmonton's river valley and when she goes out she has friends pick her up and take her home.
``There's no alone time."
Throughout her testimony, Huppie did not look at her.
She looked at him, once, when Crown prosecutor Robert Beck asked her to point out her attacker.
"Absolutely," she said, jabbing her finger towards Huppie. ``Right there."
All i have to say is this.
and if your lilly white liberal ass cant handle my bloodthirsty views....you can blow me.
the lack of rights to protect yourself in this country make me sick sometimes.
January 11, 2008
THE CANADIAN PRESS
EDMONTON – Lying bloodied and nearly naked on the floor of her downtown condo, the 29-year-old woman had one option left.
She'd just been raped in her bedroom, hacked and slashed in the face, head, hands and neck with a butcher blade until her mattress and pillows were slick with blood and the white bones of her pinky finger were exposed, in her words, like a split "chicken wing."
A violently angry, mixed-up teen loomed over her and was going to kill her, because he had a $10,000 bet that he would, she told Court of Queen's Bench today.
So she played dead in the pre-dawn darkness. Lay motionless. Stared straight up at him, her eyes wide open. She dared not breathe.
He stared right back, silently weighing whether his work was finally done.
The woman, who can't be named, was testifying at the trial of Ryan Huppie, 23, who faces a charge of attempted murder and related counts of sex assault in the Feb. 17, 2004 attack on the woman, who was his next-door neighbour at the time.
Huppie is not challenging that he committed the crime, but has pleaded not guilty on the grounds he was suffering from a mental disorder and wasn't criminally responsible.
The woman, now 33, told court she was a school vice-principal, active socially and athletically, with the "the world by the tail," when Huppie and five other youths moved into the condo next to her almost four years ago.
Days before the attack, a valentine asking her out and calling her a "hot babe" had been slipped under her door. The note would eventually yield a Huppie thumbprint.
The night before she was attacked, she told court, there had been loud music until almost 4:30 a.m. from the accused's place. She finally nodded off only to awake to find a figure at the foot of her bed with a meat cleaver and a long jagged knife.
He put a blade to her throat and told her, "I'm here to rape you and I'm here to kill you."
"I was in shock," she testified. "I couldn't believe this was happening in my bedroom.
"He said it was a $10,000 bet and that if he didn't (kill me), they would kill him."
The woman, who had worked with troubled youth, said persuasion was the only tool she had, and she tried to use it.
She told him she had a sexually transmitted disease, called him by the pseudonym on the valentine to build a bond and talked endlessly to him, trying to get him to see her as a person.
She promised to keep him free from harm and take him away to Vancouver – convincing him to the point he let her get dressed so they could leave. All the while she was manoeuvring him into what little light was bleeding through the window from the street below.
"I wanted to look him in the eye and see who this guy was."
Persuasion failed, however, and he eventually forced himself on her. It was then, she knew, that the end was near – and the fight was on.
"I co-operated on the rape," she said. "But I wasn't going to give him a body."
They struggled and thrashed. He smashed her head into the closet and began relentlessly pounding her skull with something blunt until she faked being dead.
He left and she called 911 to beg for help, only to have him return in a fury, beating and slashing anew, her hands hacked and mangled as she tried to save herself.
She bent her chin low to keep him from slashing her throat, steeling herself for the telltale spurt and gurgle of an opened artery.
She played dead again, she told court.
"I just lay there with my eyes wide open and I stared at him and he stared right back. You could see him thinking, `Finally, she's dead."'
But the ordeal continued.
He left. She called 911 again, now with hands so shredded she could hardly hold the phone.
She tried to leave through her front door only to have Huppie return a third time, this time through the open patio door.
She tearfully compared the scene to a macabre Hollywood slasher movie. "It's like trying to get through that locked door before he gets to you."
She stumbled into the hallway and into the home of a neighbour. Police arrived. In hospital, she listened as they stapled her lacerated skull back together. She identified Huppie in a picture from her hospital bed.
Huppie's mother testified earlier in the day that her son arrived at her place later to tell her, "Mom, I think I've done something wrong."
Suzanne Huppie said she then saw her son's face flashed on the TV news and she took him to police.
The victim testified she has undergone therapy similar to what soldiers receive for post-traumatic stress disorder and is working hard "to lead a normal life once again."
But she can't go running alone in Edmonton's river valley and when she goes out she has friends pick her up and take her home.
``There's no alone time."
Throughout her testimony, Huppie did not look at her.
She looked at him, once, when Crown prosecutor Robert Beck asked her to point out her attacker.
"Absolutely," she said, jabbing her finger towards Huppie. ``Right there."
All i have to say is this.
thats what your country wants up there anom they want to be tree hugging hippies...I was talking to a cop from Vancouver and he said that some 17 year old girl stomped this elderly womens head in and she admitted to it and the foot print in the ladys skull matched the girls boot and she only got 5-10 years...your country wants the liberal feel goodness instead of the logical
bingo.
the scary part is, when you bring that argument to the table....the usual response is....."oh well that doesnt happen here anyway, so why do you need a gun?"
well my fellow edmontonians......I dont know about you, but think of if this was your mother.....your wife.....your daughter.....
Id sure want something better than calling 911 TWICE....and them still taking enough time to lay into her a 2nd and 3rd time....
this guy was a perfect candidate for $2 worth of hot lead.
the scary part is, when you bring that argument to the table....the usual response is....."oh well that doesnt happen here anyway, so why do you need a gun?"
well my fellow edmontonians......I dont know about you, but think of if this was your mother.....your wife.....your daughter.....
Id sure want something better than calling 911 TWICE....and them still taking enough time to lay into her a 2nd and 3rd time....
this guy was a perfect candidate for $2 worth of hot lead.
I completely agree with anOmalous in that he should be shot...period.
My question is.....how come NOBODY recognized that this guy was a little "off kilter" before he decided to try and kill that poor woman?? Are people that stupid? Did his Mom not know that her son was a couple bricks short of a load??
That lady did nothing but be the "hot neighbor" that every single warm blooded man would be drooling over.
This crazy **** deserves nothing less then the death penalty, which we do not have here in Alberta. Someone should take him out. Anyone know a good sniper?
My question is.....how come NOBODY recognized that this guy was a little "off kilter" before he decided to try and kill that poor woman?? Are people that stupid? Did his Mom not know that her son was a couple bricks short of a load??
That lady did nothing but be the "hot neighbor" that every single warm blooded man would be drooling over.
This crazy **** deserves nothing less then the death penalty, which we do not have here in Alberta. Someone should take him out. Anyone know a good sniper?
thats sum fucked up ****....let me tell you if sumone ever touches my gf or in the future wife or daughter the cops wont be comin cuz someone was raped or molested they will comin cuz some dude is layin dead in my livin room
this is why i hate canada sometimes... our fucked up judicial system.. you can rape a little boy, go to jail for 15 years, and if your a goody goody in jail they will let you out.... its just wrong
i hope his friends, that gave this dude the "10,000 bet" are going to jail too. wtf? who bets someone they cant/can kill someone.... that **** is fucked up. im on the fence on this one, think about it, if we allow lethal weapons to be held in evey house how many more school shootings will there be, aka columbine etc. i think we should have some changes to protect our selfs but if we go as far as the US there will be ALOT more teen shootings and **** like that.
I'm not liberal and I disagree with you. Don't assume that everyone on the other side of the aisle is automatically against you or that everyone ideologically the same as you agrees.
Last edited by The_Blur; Jan 13, 2008 at 02:45 PM. Reason: typo
Well......
....if anyone dares try and harm my family, my friends, or myself, they had better be armed....because that is the ONLY way they have a hope in hell of getting away from my reach...and I have a LONG reach....and I sure as **** dont need any type of weapon to inflict my wrath - I have an affinity for breaking bones and popping joints....
....if anyone dares try and harm my family, my friends, or myself, they had better be armed....because that is the ONLY way they have a hope in hell of getting away from my reach...and I have a LONG reach....and I sure as **** dont need any type of weapon to inflict my wrath - I have an affinity for breaking bones and popping joints....
This is a sad event, but people shouldnt change a whole lifestyle for one event. There is a reason their is alot less crimes of all kinds and less murders commited by guns per capita in Canada than in the U.S.
Bottom line is, sure in this instance having a gun would of been better than not have one. overall,IMO, not carrying guns around is better.
Call me a tree hugger hippie, but think about when some messed up person freaks out at your daughter at the mall, at the drive through, anywhere and kills her, what would you think about gun regulations then. If everyone was sane, we wouldn't need guns right? So why give the insane people a extra tool?
Bottom line is, sure in this instance having a gun would of been better than not have one. overall,IMO, not carrying guns around is better.
Call me a tree hugger hippie, but think about when some messed up person freaks out at your daughter at the mall, at the drive through, anywhere and kills her, what would you think about gun regulations then. If everyone was sane, we wouldn't need guns right? So why give the insane people a extra tool?
Last edited by martinsmu; Jan 13, 2008 at 03:38 PM.
Of course it was - but it is the only view that no one can argue with - and it was said to illustrate that no matter how passionate you are about bearing arms or not - there is pretty much nothing you can do to convince anyone of the oppisate side to yours. Hence, the generic view posted above. I guess subtlety is lost in this case
if you were aloud owning a gun for personal saftey, then that woulda enabled this "Huppie" character to have a gun instead of a meat cleaver, and i think in all odds if he had a gun, that lady would been dead for sure....so i think guns should be kept to the authorities.
honestly i would feel ALOT less safe if i knew everyone and thier son COULD have a gun on them, if they changed the laws so that any household could have a gun i would feel 10000X less safe, think of how many fucked up people there are, teenagers acting cool showing off daddys gun, then all of a sudden 4 ppl are dead...man, canada is fine. if your soo scared, buy a non lethal weapon, like a taser gun, or those guns that shoot tiny sandbags.
honestly i would feel ALOT less safe if i knew everyone and thier son COULD have a gun on them, if they changed the laws so that any household could have a gun i would feel 10000X less safe, think of how many fucked up people there are, teenagers acting cool showing off daddys gun, then all of a sudden 4 ppl are dead...man, canada is fine. if your soo scared, buy a non lethal weapon, like a taser gun, or those guns that shoot tiny sandbags.
if you were aloud owning a gun for personal saftey, then that woulda enabled this "Huppie" character to have a gun instead of a meat cleaver, and i think in all odds if he had a gun, that lady would been dead for sure....so i think guns should be kept to the authorities.
honestly i would feel ALOT less safe if i knew everyone and thier son COULD have a gun on them, if they changed the laws so that any household could have a gun i would feel 10000X less safe, think of how many fucked up people there are, teenagers acting cool showing off daddys gun, then all of a sudden 4 ppl are dead...man, canada is fine. if your soo scared, buy a non lethal weapon, like a taser gun, or those guns that shoot tiny sandbags.
honestly i would feel ALOT less safe if i knew everyone and thier son COULD have a gun on them, if they changed the laws so that any household could have a gun i would feel 10000X less safe, think of how many fucked up people there are, teenagers acting cool showing off daddys gun, then all of a sudden 4 ppl are dead...man, canada is fine. if your soo scared, buy a non lethal weapon, like a taser gun, or those guns that shoot tiny sandbags.
but at the same time it makes the criminals fear the fact that everyone they want to commit crimes against has guns and i know that if i was a criminal i wouldnt want to rob someones house who i thought might have a gun


