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new mod just ordered
I have already bought and installed a performance intake from Chevy on my 2.4 SS sadan and I have just ordered the GMPP Cat-Back Exhaust System Performance from www.crateenginedepot.com. I also ordered the Cobalt Exhaust Tip Straight Cut for the system. I cant wait til it arrives and I get it installed. Does anyone else have this system and if so can you notice a difference in performance and sound from the stock exhaust? If you want to order one the price for it right now is 357.30 bur with that and the tip with shipping it came out to $458.45 which isnt bad. Now that I have the two big things that is probilly the cheapest way to get HP and performance. Is there anything else that I should go with??
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nice your going to enjoy it..i have it on my 2.4..sounds awesome too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmF0A_xuCgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmF0A_xuCgI
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nice your going to enjoy it..i have it on my 2.4..sounds awesome too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmF0A_xuCgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmF0A_xuCgI
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they are absolutely NOT the same. bhp is before drivetrain loss and all other losses. whp is the actual power that's getting down to the ground, which has all the loss taken out already.
i think people hear "brake horse power" so assume that the brakes mean at the wheels. seems logical. but, it gets that name from the machine used to test the horsepower, has nothing to do with the actual brakes.
i think people hear "brake horse power" so assume that the brakes mean at the wheels. seems logical. but, it gets that name from the machine used to test the horsepower, has nothing to do with the actual brakes.
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they are absolutely NOT the same. bhp is before drivetrain loss and all other losses. whp is the actual power that's getting down to the ground, which has all the loss taken out already.
i think people hear "brake horse power" so assume that the brakes mean at the wheels. seems logical. but, it gets that name from the machine used to test the horsepower, has nothing to do with the actual brakes.
i think people hear "brake horse power" so assume that the brakes mean at the wheels. seems logical. but, it gets that name from the machine used to test the horsepower, has nothing to do with the actual brakes.
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If thats the case then y do they say it has 171 HP stock where does that number come from and if thats the case how much whp does the SS/SC have?
How much does it normally cost to get the exhaust put on and will it be cheaper to get a dealership to put it on??
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nothing is cheaper at the dealer unless it's free 
try it yourself, or see if a local member can help you out. If you were up my way I would help you put it on no problem.
basically there's 2 ways that you judge horsepower. bhp, and whp. whp is WHEEL horse power, which is the actual power that is getting to the ground. your car uses hp to do certain things, like spin your alternator, use the ac, spin a pulley, etc. so when you take out all that power that is doing other things and not getting to the ground, that's whp.
bhp is the amount of power BEFORE all that loss. from a car manufacturers point of view, and for the average person that doesn't know the difference between bhp and whp, what looks more impressive? the higher #. almost nobody that's into cars talks in terms of bhp, because that's irelevant. people talk about whp.
for the ss/sc, it's underrated, most cars put down somewhere between 210-220 whp.
try it yourself, or see if a local member can help you out. If you were up my way I would help you put it on no problem.basically there's 2 ways that you judge horsepower. bhp, and whp. whp is WHEEL horse power, which is the actual power that is getting to the ground. your car uses hp to do certain things, like spin your alternator, use the ac, spin a pulley, etc. so when you take out all that power that is doing other things and not getting to the ground, that's whp.
bhp is the amount of power BEFORE all that loss. from a car manufacturers point of view, and for the average person that doesn't know the difference between bhp and whp, what looks more impressive? the higher #. almost nobody that's into cars talks in terms of bhp, because that's irelevant. people talk about whp.
for the ss/sc, it's underrated, most cars put down somewhere between 210-220 whp.
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nothing is cheaper at the dealer unless it's free try it yourself, or see if a local member can help you out. If you were up my way I would help you put it on no problem.
basically there's 2 ways that you judge horsepower. bhp, and whp. whp is WHEEL horse power, which is the actual power that is getting to the ground. your car uses hp to do certain things, like spin your alternator, use the ac, spin a pulley, etc. so when you take out all that power that is doing other things and not getting to the ground, that's whp.
bhp is the amount of power BEFORE all that loss. from a car manufacturers point of view, and for the average person that doesn't know the difference between bhp and whp, what looks more impressive? the higher #. almost nobody that's into cars talks in terms of bhp, because that's irelevant. people talk about whp.
for the ss/sc, it's underrated, most cars put down somewhere between 210-220 whp.
try it yourself, or see if a local member can help you out. If you were up my way I would help you put it on no problem.basically there's 2 ways that you judge horsepower. bhp, and whp. whp is WHEEL horse power, which is the actual power that is getting to the ground. your car uses hp to do certain things, like spin your alternator, use the ac, spin a pulley, etc. so when you take out all that power that is doing other things and not getting to the ground, that's whp.
bhp is the amount of power BEFORE all that loss. from a car manufacturers point of view, and for the average person that doesn't know the difference between bhp and whp, what looks more impressive? the higher #. almost nobody that's into cars talks in terms of bhp, because that's irelevant. people talk about whp.
for the ss/sc, it's underrated, most cars put down somewhere between 210-220 whp.
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