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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Question Quick Question On Stoptech rotor and hawk pads install

aite first off the rotors look nice on the balt...ok heres the question....when stopping is the break pedal suppose to feel soft (not extremely soft) upon applying pressure to it...i get the feeling that it takes the car longer to come to a stop with these new rotors and hawk pads...can it be that the place installed em wrong or is there a leak in the break line or its just the process as the break pads get broken in...what you guys think? i feel alittle uncomfortable with this..maybe cause im used to the stock rotor and pads...idk....how long would it take before the hawk hps pads are fully broken in? thanks for input...
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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i have the stoptech slotted and hawk ceramics, it does feel a lot softer of a pedal but i cant even do half travel without burning tires lol..

did you follow break in procedue..

3-4 40mph runs then do quicker braking

then 7 20mph slower breaks.. my breaks came with breakin procedure for film to go off..

ive had mine on for months and yes the break pedal if soft and smooth as butter but when i want it to stop it does it very quick.. i can jerk anyone out my window lol
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt4Life
i have the stoptech slotted and hawk ceramics, it does feel a lot softer of a pedal but i cant even do half travel without burning tires lol..

did you follow break in procedue..

3-4 40mph runs then do quicker braking

then 7 20mph slower breaks.. my breaks came with breakin procedure for film to go off..

ive had mine on for months and yes the break pedal if soft and smooth as butter but when i want it to stop it does it very quick.. i can jerk anyone out my window lol
no i didnt start the break in process..i think they threw that papter out....*******
i just got my car back now...and on the drive home i felt the pedal soft and i got nerves...so tonight on the way to work ill try that break in process...dose it have to go in that order? and dose it matter which way the slots on the rotor are facing...i have to double check that in a bit...
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Let me know how it works out for ya...I'll be installing my Stoptechs and Hawks soon.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rallyracer
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Let me know how it works out for ya...I'll be installing my Stoptechs and Hawks soon.
yeah ill keep ya up to date...i had mines in the trunk on the car for like almost 2 months before i said let me get them installed for once...and i think after break-in process i just have to get used to the feeling of the pedal...
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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You are supposed to heat the pads in a certain order the first time, it is critical to long pad life and good initial response. Your pedal should never feel softer, they need to bleed the brakes if thats the case. To wear in the pads, you do 5 stops with medium pressure from about 40 mph, not complete stops, down to about a 5 mph roll, then right back up. From that, go to about 60 mph and make a harder stop, 2-3 times. After that, park the car and let the brakes cool completely (at least an hour) before driving again. This helps with transferring pad material to the rotors and properly setting up the compound of the pads for optimum performance.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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You are supposed to heat the pads in a certain order the first time, it is critical to long pad life and good initial response. Your pedal should never feel softer, they need to bleed the brakes if thats the case. To wear in the pads, you do 5 stops with medium pressure from about 40 mph, not complete stops, down to about a 5 mph roll, then right back up. From that, go to about 60 mph and make a harder stop, 2-3 times. After that, park the car and let the brakes cool completely (at least an hour) before driving again. This helps with transferring pad material to the rotors and properly setting up the compound of the pads for optimum performance.
ok so what your saying is they should have heated my pads up before installing them..and that i should tell them to bleed the brakes...the pedal is soft but not extremely soft like when i step on it, it doesn't touch the floor...but i feel its softer than how it felt with the stock rotors and pads on?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC_Eddie
ok so what your saying is they should have heated my pads up before installing them..and that i should tell them to bleed the brakes...the pedal is soft but not extremely soft like when i step on it, it doesn't touch the floor...but i feel its softer than how it felt with the stock rotors and pads on?
They can't heat the pads up, thats why you do the break in procedure with the stops. You let the brakes get hot enough the first time to work well from then on out. Hawk specifies that procedure with thier new pads. I am recalling it from memory, so I may not be 100% correct, but its close enough.

As for the soft pedal, that shouldn't happen. If anything, the pedal should be higher if its not the same, now that you have thicker rotors and pads than before. I installed my Hawk HPS pads with GMPP drilled/slotted rotors myself and had no noticable change in the pedal position or firmness, just increased braking ability. If the pedal has to be pressed further to get the car to stop, its due to air in the system somewhere. Have the brakes bled again, maybe by the dealer or a different shop if the original installer can't seem to correct it. Its no fun to have a soft brake pedal. Not to mention that its unsafe, as it makes the car take longer to react in a panic stop situation.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
They can't heat the pads up, thats why you do the break in procedure with the stops. You let the brakes get hot enough the first time to work well from then on out. Hawk specifies that procedure with thier new pads. I am recalling it from memory, so I may not be 100% correct, but its close enough.

As for the soft pedal, that shouldn't happen. If anything, the pedal should be higher if its not the same, now that you have thicker rotors and pads than before. I installed my Hawk HPS pads with GMPP drilled/slotted rotors myself and had no noticable change in the pedal position or firmness, just increased braking ability. If the pedal has to be pressed further to get the car to stop, its due to air in the system somewhere. Have the brakes bled again, maybe by the dealer or a different shop if the original installer can't seem to correct it. Its no fun to have a soft brake pedal. Not to mention that its unsafe, as it makes the car take longer to react in a panic stop situation.
ok i miss read the first line before about heating pads up...second does it matter which way the slots on the rotor are facing (i have to double check them later on)?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC_Eddie
second does it matter which way the slots on the rotor are facing (i have to double check them later on)?
YES, each rotor had a R or L on it right out of the box.


Here's a pic of mine.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rallyracer
YES, each rotor had a R or L on it right out of the box.


Here's a pic of mine.
ok ill check mine in a few when i head out to work...thanks
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