SS vs EVO...
SS vs EVO...
SO there was a debate a while back about a race bulldog had with an evo so we setup a race against an evo with a guy that had just bought one. Before the race however, we found out that this was a brand spanking new 06 evo with an ECU flash which was effective for 40~ awhp across the board. Bulldog had a k&n intake which has shown by others to be effective for around 10~whp. We were trying to get a race against an evo that was closer to stock but never one to back down Bulldog still wanted to run so here is the result of that night ... oh can you tell when they BOTH miss 2nd gear???
56k = No
http://yah-evolution.net/evorace.html
56k = No
http://yah-evolution.net/evorace.html
Nice Vid! You know whats funny? He really didnt beat you all that bad. You know whats even more funny!? He paided $10,000 for than you!
You could take that 10k and imagine what our cars would be like with 10k into the motor? HAHA SWEET
Originally Posted by GotBoost?
Nice Vid! You know whats funny? He really didnt beat you all that bad. You know whats even more funny!? He paided $10,000 for than you!
You could take that 10k and imagine what our cars would be like with 10k into the motor? HAHA SWEET
This is true, the Evo is a good amount more. But a good awd system don't come cheap. Neither does a nice turbo setup like the Evo has. You gotta remember, the Evo really isn't in our class, it's a nice step above. But you do have to hand it to the Cobalt, even though it's front wheel drive it can be made into a monster of a track car. GM has already proven this with their cars.
Either way, both cars are very nice and I would love to have an Evo...but I'm a poor white boy and can't afford one, so I got another Chevy.
If you can afford to BUY a Cobalt SS/SC then you can afford to GET an EVO.
HAHAHA, I am not paying 10k more for my STI. HAHAHA sweet!

OniMirage.... what flash did the guy have to add 40hp?? I call BS on that.
Originally Posted by gotboost?
Nice Vid! You know whats funny? He really didnt beat you all that bad. You know whats even more funny!? He paided $10,000 for than you! You could take that 10k and imagine what our cars would be like with 10k into the motor? HAHA SWEET
OniMirage.... what flash did the guy have to add 40hp?? I call BS on that.
my friend has a evo and there is no way even with stage 2 that a cobalt ss would keep up with it. im not trying to down the cobalt because i have a ss but, the evos are a one of the fastest cars ive been in. by the way you can get a used evo for about 20k stock or modded.
Originally Posted by wasey13
If you can afford to BUY a Cobalt SS/SC then you can afford to GET an EVO.
HAHAHA, I am not paying 10k more for my STI. HAHAHA sweet!

OniMirage.... what flash did the guy have to add 40hp?? I call BS on that.
HAHAHA, I am not paying 10k more for my STI. HAHAHA sweet!
OniMirage.... what flash did the guy have to add 40hp?? I call BS on that.

I'd never buy a car like an evo or sti used...unless it had 5k and was a dealer trade in or something.
As for his flash, he got it done at the dealership had it dynoed to prove it. The IX has a lot more room for adjustability than the previous cars did.
i would buy a used evo because, most of the used ones only have about 20k miles on them. trust me i have done the research and it is worth it to buy a used one. most of the used ones are owned by older guys and they take care of their cars, unlike some teenager.
Originally Posted by wasey13
If you can afford to BUY a Cobalt SS/SC then you can afford to GET an EVO.
HAHAHA, I am not paying 10k more for my STI. HAHAHA sweet!

OniMirage.... what flash did the guy have to add 40hp?? I call BS on that.
HAHAHA, I am not paying 10k more for my STI. HAHAHA sweet!
OniMirage.... what flash did the guy have to add 40hp?? I call BS on that.

Originally Posted by OniMirage
lol I knew you would say that ... rob the evo guy had it done at the dealer ... he said it costs around 700 to do and it basically wakes up the turbo and increases the low and mid range torque along with the top end hp ... the evo was a brand new 06 which has a bigger turbo than an 05 if I beleive ... it also looked slightly different from the evo most are used to seeing ... the wing was different too
Bulldog my car isn't used, it is called leasing.
memphisr24, CTS-Vs aren't that fast. Your buddy in the EVO can't drive.
A CTS-V runs 12's that will hand a EVO it's ass.
And adding 40whp to a Turbo car with just a tune is easy and gaining only 40hp is pretty low.
If the EVO was 100% it would have been a pretty good race.
And adding 40whp to a Turbo car with just a tune is easy and gaining only 40hp is pretty low.
If the EVO was 100% it would have been a pretty good race.
Originally Posted by wasey13
I know about the EVO IX, I am just saying no flash of the computer adds that much horsepower to the wheels.
Bulldog my car isn't used, it is called leasing.
memphisr24, CTS-Vs aren't that fast. Your buddy in the EVO can't drive.
Bulldog my car isn't used, it is called leasing.
memphisr24, CTS-Vs aren't that fast. Your buddy in the EVO can't drive.
Originally Posted by blown_06
i would buy a used evo because, most of the used ones only have about 20k miles on them. trust me i have done the research and it is worth it to buy a used one. most of the used ones are owned by older guys and they take care of their cars, unlike some teenager.
Originally Posted by GotBoost?
Nice Vid! You know whats funny? He really didnt beat you all that bad. You know whats even more funny!? He paided $10,000 for than you!
You could take that 10k and imagine what our cars would be like with 10k into the motor? HAHA SWEET
Originally Posted by Self
Thats genuine ricer math, it was a good race and the Evo outperformed the Cobalt straight up. If you dont have the extra $10k to put towards and Evo, your not going to have it to put into your engine. 
Originally Posted by fifasf
I can't wait for the friggin stage 2 to come out.
Originally Posted by wasey13
I know about the EVO IX, I am just saying no flash of the computer adds that much horsepower to the wheels.
Bulldog my car isn't used, it is called leasing.
memphisr24, CTS-Vs aren't that fast. Your buddy in the EVO can't drive.
Bulldog my car isn't used, it is called leasing.
memphisr24, CTS-Vs aren't that fast. Your buddy in the EVO can't drive.
The Evo in the vid probably gained about 40HP at the crank from the reflash, that is very believable for a turbo vehicle. Thats the reason it walked away from the Cobalt SS S/C in the video like it did.
Originally Posted by wesmanw02
You must be kidding there buddy. Since when is a CTS-V that runs high 12's stock "not that fast"?? A CTS-V will walk all over an Evo, considering Evo's run mid-low 13's stock, and thats only with an aggressive launch. Go from a roll, and they're really nothing special. Theres even a video on here of a Cobalt SS S/C hanging right with an Evo from a roll, and both vehicles were stock.
The Evo in the vid probably gained about 40HP at the crank from the reflash, that is very believable for a turbo vehicle. Thats the reason it walked away from the Cobalt SS S/C in the video like it did.
The Evo in the vid probably gained about 40HP at the crank from the reflash, that is very believable for a turbo vehicle. Thats the reason it walked away from the Cobalt SS S/C in the video like it did.
The owner of the Evo had before/after dynos done. He gained 40 to the wheels from it. That's insane for some tuning.



