2 kills, 1 outting.
 

So today I decided to take my baby out for a drive since it was such a nice day out here in MN. Within the first 5 minutes of my drive I pulled up behind a green, new body style Camaro SS at a stop light. I didn't think much of it other than the ugly paint on the car, though sure enough he saw me in his rear view mirror, and when that light turned green he took off. I of course couldn't let this moment go to waste so I did the same. (Keep in mind I'm coming from behind him) So as I NLS into 3rd I get out from behind him and get beside him, NLS into 4th... start pulling away from him by about half a car... What does this guy do you wonder? breaks extremely hard and pulls off to a turn lane at a green light we were approaching. I laughed and than laughed some more, I did not know this person so I am only going to assume his car was stock, regardless it felt damn good.

Now kill #2 (sorry for the lengthy explanations)


At this point in my drive I'm about 10 minutes from arriving home on my already great drive. Now I'm on the freeway approaching a Lexus IS F, I pass him going roughly 80mph REALLY not thinking anything of it because, generally (in my experience) people in high end sports cars don't run there car's as they're meant to. Anyways to my disbelief this guy comes flying up beside me after I had passed him, and I look over to see himself and his girlfriend staring at me, so we slow down to about 60mph I drop it in 3rd and honk my horn 3 times. We both take off... I immediately started pulling on him, as I NLS into 4th I have about 2 cars on him and we're going about 125-135mph so I let off... Now what does this guy do? The noob fly by... I laughed again knowing this guy probably is going to tell everyone how he beat a Cobalt SS in a race and yada yada... I know what I did and so do you gents, so I am satisfied.

*Disclosure* Ashley is a 2008 Cobalt SS with GMS1, Injen CAI, Injen UCP, Forge BPV, and MPx catless DP. I can only assume both of the cars I raced today were stock. Regardless it feels damn good to know I beat 2 cars that are easily $30k more then my car. That is all, and thanks for reading! :cssNET:

Good kills, what part of MN? i grew up in Princeton, MN before i joined the military.

Thanks man, suburbs just north of the citys.

don't those IS F 's have like 500 hp? or something like that?

416 to be exact.

that just goes to show you can have a lot of hp and still be a slow car. I have seen so many cars at the track that run 14's + that have 400 + hp

It's not exactly surprising. Similar weight and power to the Camaro. Considering RWD drivetrain loss it's not a surprising loss to a much lighter car with a similar to better power to weight ratio.

nice kills with your mods

V6 Camaro's dont stand a chance even from a dig. I ran two of them at the track (thought one was an SS cause it had the RS package) blew him away and thought there must be something wrong with his ride until i realized it was an RS not an SS. Threw me off cause there was an identical SS that was also running that day. Easily put two lengths on both RS Camaros i ran against.

sorry buddy.... you probably went up against an is250 or is350 with f-sport package... YOU did not race an IS F or you would have been smoked...

IS-F 416hp and 371ftlb
SS/TC GM1 290hp and 320ftlb

yayy cobalt kills in MN!

ive only had a run in with a newer 5.0 and before i could play around with him he got off the freeway!

You do realize that a stock IS F and a GMS1 Cobalt SS have almost the exact same track times right? It's about power to weight man... those IS F's have roughly 1000lb's on a Cobalt. Believe as you wish though.

yes but straight line performance is a different story. i have a GMS1 balt and im not sure if i could take an IS-F. that being said anything is possible. so congrats on the kill!

Both those cars run 12.8's to low 13's trapping well over 110 on a bad day. Seems more likely u raced an RS camaro and a IS350 to be honest. Still good kills in my book.

Nice kills!

I test drove the 2009 ISF its not that fast, my cobalt is faster from a 40 roll.

Not true, ISFs are heavy.

wow these are seriously good kills for GMS1 + bolt ons. I need to quit fucking with stupid shit and just get an SS. Buying one is 10x easier than justifying it when i get home...(eeek divorce)

what does track times have to do with a roll at 60mph to 135mph?

once again no idea what that has to do with anything?

And so? how are you competiting with a car that has

126 more HP
51 more FT-LBS
3 More gears <- better acceleration/higher top speed

seriously guys.... that's like saying a cobalt with 400hp is faster than a GTR?

a 400whp cobalt is faster than a gt-r, duh....lol, jk

for gms1 thats pretty good, ive raced both when i was turbo and to be honest i can see a bolt on gms1 lnf pulling both or giving them a good run. ive also raced gms1 lnfs with bolt ons and pulled just as much

i have an 09 tc with k&n drop in, catless dp, and gms1 and i beat a new ss by a couple car lengths. it was auto and from 40-100. im at sea level so dont know if that makes any difference.

yea i believe it, i raced a new m3 with just a tune dp and intake and i pulled good from a roll. whp and weight is wat matters.

You do realize neither of them have trapped over 109~ stock? and that's pro drivers.

Nice kills.

Didn't wanna make another thread but if I raced a 350z from a 30 roll shld I have put 3-4 lengths on him by 100? He rev'd at me at a light and needless to say after the race he raised his windows and didn't rev again

my buddy has a new m3 and i wanted to race him to see how i did. im sure i would loose, but i think its fun regardless. he wont race me, i guess if i even stay close i win lol. maybe he doesnt want his 60k car to be shamed by a grocery getter. i hate ppl like that.

What are your mods. On my 30psi stock turbo tune I was dead even with an e92 40-130. They take to nods just as good as a 5.0 stang.

Said m3 claimed bolt ons stock tune but to keep up like that he wasn't stock tune

Well a new 5.0 stang is faster than an is-f stock for stock.....a bolt on LNF takes a stock 5.0 fairly easy from a roll

so this shall be an easy win for me....

now.. keep in mind this is stock for stock..

ss/tc vs is-f.. yes you can subtract half a second or w/e for the ss/tc because extra gain for GMS1 but here you go

SS/TC

0-60 = 5.7
0-100 = 13.4
0-130 = 24.6

5-60 = 6.2
30-50 = 8.5
50-70 = 6.5

1/4 Mile = 14.2 @102

ISF

0-60 = 4.7
0-100 = 11
0-130 = 18.9

5-60 = 5.1
30-50 = 3.2
50-70 = 3.6

1/4 Mile = 13.1 @110

GMS1 sure does help but it is not faster than an IS-F

who knows IS-F could have been scared to go all out or really was just slower either way......and sorry to do this "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, a win is a win"


Nice kills

I won my first race the other day in my balt. My opponent had over double my torque and I still won. It might have been a dodge ram 3500 giving me an ever so slight weight advantage :)

nice work showing what the cobalt can do! I always see nice cars going the opposite way or when im in traffic...

not sure why people feel the need to try refuting the win. a million reasons could cause the ISF to win or lose that particular moment. your not going to prove it either way with all the stats in the world.

A hp tuned ss/ tc will beat an isf from a roll g speed. GM stg 1 would be a close race. Idk where you got those stats from but they seem a little off.

lol I do agree with you 100% weight and drag play a big roll on those cars..

got them from car and driver

yes an hp tuned ss/tc would beat an isf.. but gms1 no

GUD kills man i can say from experience w/ my bolt ons i totally walk off on SS camaros 40 rolls 60 rolls makes no difference i raced a IS-F when i went home for my daughters birthing and i pulled on him from a 40 roll by a car as race went on i was still in the lead by a fender. second run im not sure what happened but i was a car ahead i guess he didnt want to run again. newer M3's e92 body i seen a few but only one raced and it was pretty even. If your on your game i think you can take them but then again i am spiking 27lbs and settling at 24.

the one i raced was stock and i was on my trifecta tune, raced from 60ish to about 130ish

well if ur tuned and he is stock it should be a good race from a roll..

Stock for a SS/TC is a 14.0 flat, ive seen GMS1 cars with bolt-ons go 13.3. Plus the race was from a 60 roll, so the TC has an advantage being lighter weight. So a GMS1 would not get "smoked" like you stated, it would be a close race.

ISF -- Motor trend 12.9 at 111.4 Car and Driver 13.1 at 110

SS -- Motor trend 12.9 at 110.7 Car and Driver 13.0 at 111

BTW these same pro drivers pulled a 14.2 at 102 with the SS/TC. PRO does not = best possible time.

on a stock ss right? he had a gms1. it should be close with a stage . plus im trifecta tuned trapping 111 but i have rapped those cars from a roll