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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Best tire size for SS/TC for road coarse track

What is the optimal tire size that I shouldget with stock suspension, looking at dunlops Dizerra 235/40, but will 245 work even better on stock rims, or is 245 to much for road racing. I am basically looking for best tire size for optimal road coarse racing on stock rims. Also do have to take it to 245/35 for clearance? Also even if I go 235, do I need to go down to 35 series?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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235/40/18
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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DONK wheels with rubber band tires

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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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235/40/18
x2.

245/40 have been used but tend to rub so 235's will do.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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maven?

I havent bought tires to use "racing" yet so I havent looked into it hard enough.

I think my last tires were 235/40/18 and they were nice.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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My choices:

Street - 235/40/18 Dunlop Direzza Star Spec Z1
Drag - 245/45/17 Hoosier DOT Slick
Track (Road circuit or autocross) - 235/40/18 Nitto NT01
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by firerat
My choices:

Street - 235/40/18 Dunlop Direzza Star Spec Z1
Track (Road circuit or autocross) - 235/40/18 Nitto NT01
X2...
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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From all of the research I have done it seems that the 235/40/18's are your best bet with stock suspension.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Street - Bridgestone RE-11 225/40/18
Road Coarse - Hoosier R6 225/40/18
Drag Strip - Undecided
Winter- Bridgestone Blizzak LM60RFT(run flat tire)
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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I am running Dunlop Wintersport M3s in 215/50/17 right now for my winter tires. I love them.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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I'll vote 235/40/17, but no one makes a 17x8 wheel for us.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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DONK wheels with rubber band tires

that thing would handle like a sack of potatoes.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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From all of the research I have done it seems that the 235/40/18's are your best bet with stock suspension.
What about if you're on sportlines? 235/40/18 should still be good right?
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What type of racing? Lots of HPDEs, time attack in certain classes don't allow R-comps. And if your just learning I wouldn't recommend them anyway. 245s work fine as long as there 245/35s. That's what I'm running right now. As far as I know the only good extreme performance tire in that size are the Kumho XS.There the most sticky out of the bunch but, aren't as good in other areas. Sidewalls are a little softer, and don't like the cold or wet as much as say the dunlop starspec or NT05. The advans and re11s are also great but do you really wanna pay $50 more per tire for similar performance? If I didn't go with the 245 I would have stuck with the stock 225. Your gonna gain more with the smaller diameter than you are with the less than 10mm more rubber on the road. there i'm done

BTW, check it out that thing looks like it's 4 wheel drive! I'd own it with some 44" boggers on it.

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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rallyracer
x2.

245/40 have been used but tend to rub so 235's will do.
where will the tire rub?




Are 225/40r18 and 245/40r18 the same height.... the 245 is just wider? Why would making the tire more low profile make a difference for rubbing (35)

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ArickSS
What is the optimal tire size that I shouldget with stock suspension, looking at dunlops Dizerra 235/40, but will 245 work even better on stock rims, or is 245 to much for road racing. I am basically looking for best tire size for optimal road coarse racing on stock rims. Also do have to take it to 245/35 for clearance? Also even if I go 235, do I need to go down to 35 series?
I've got the 235/40/18 Dunlops on... couldn't be happier. KILLER tire! Damn good in a straight line, and absolutely insane in the corners.

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where will the tire rub?




Are 225/40r18 and 245/40r18 the same height.... the 245 is just wider? Why would making the tire more low profile make a difference for rubbing (35)
The "40" is a percentage of the width, therefore a 245/40 will have a bigger sidewall (3.9") than a 225/40 (3.5"). Here is a great java program I've used for years:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

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Originally Posted by SRTSVTSS
I've got the 235/40/18 Dunlops on... couldn't be happier. KILLER tire! Damn good in a straight line, and absolutely insane in the corners.



The "40" is a percentage of the width, therefore a 245/40 will have a bigger sidewall (3.9") than a 225/40 (3.5"). Here is a great java program I've used for years:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
That is an awesome program, I've had it bookmarked for years aswell lol.


It's sort of funky the way tire sizes go you basically have
mm(metric) / %(percentage) / inches(imperial)

For a 225/40/R18 tire:
the 225 means the width of the tire is 225mm = 8.9"
the 40 means 40% of 225 is your sidewall height 90mm = 3.5"
the 18 is obviously the inside diameter of the tire in inches


for a 235/40/R18 tire:
235mm = 9.25"
40 sidewall means 94mm = 3.7"
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tom.g
That is an awesome program, I've had it bookmarked for years aswell lol.


It's sort of funky the way tire sizes go you basically have
mm(metric) / %(percentage) / inches(imperial)

For a 225/40/R18 tire:
the 225 means the width of the tire is 225mm = 8.9"
the 40 means 40% of 225 is your sidewall height 90mm = 3.5"
the 18 is obviously the inside diameter of the tire in inches


for a 235/40/R18 tire:
235mm = 9.25"
40 sidewall means 94mm = 3.7"
Our OEM 225/40 Contis spec out at 9.4" wide whereas most 225s are 8.8-8.9"wide. Just a helpful hit for those wanting 235s, most 235/40/18 are approx the same width as our 225/40/18 but 0.3" taller overall.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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so does that mean we can sneak 245/40/18 dunlop star specs on the stock wheels? with no lower springs of course
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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I wonder if the 9.4" width is at the rim protection flare? My BFG g-Force are 9.1 without the flare.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
I wonder if the 9.4" width is at the rim protection flare? My BFG g-Force are 9.1 without the flare.
I think it has to be because there is no way our tread on the tire is 9.4" wide.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tom.g
I think it has to be because there is no way our tread on the tire is 9.4" wide.
Tread width is appox 8 inches on the stock 225/40/18 Contis. The Porshe spec 225/40/18 Contis sportcontact2s are 8.9" wide using the whatever measuring technique they use.

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so does that mean we can sneak 245/40/18 dunlop star specs on the stock wheels? with no lower springs of course
You can, but if you hit really hard bumps there is a possibility of rubbing due to the tire being wider and also 3/4" taller.

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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I'll vote 235/40/17, but no one makes a 17x8 wheel for us.
I hope you meant 235/45/17...unless you like having your speedometer reading way off
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Speedometer cal is easy...HPT FTW!
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