Driving juiced up SS TC..question
Do you have any data showing performance enhancement adding just those mods to a tuned car? Most tuned cars already Dyno with these mods, so that data might be hard to find. Maybe at some point I may add those and dyno. I'm probably the only one here that has dynoed with a tune and NO MODS AT ALL!
I first timed my car from 4000-6000RPM..that's 62-93. (Are you sure it was 97?). I got 5.2 sec there (and 6.3 to 100mph). Boy, your car is really quick! I would estimate that to be at least 50HP more than mine. Do you have 350WHP? (yeah, I know depends on dyno...just let me know anyway
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.Do you have any data showing performance enhancement adding just those mods to a tuned car? Most tuned cars already Dyno with these mods, so that data might be hard to find. Maybe at some point I may add those and dyno. I'm probably the only one here that has dynoed with a tune and NO MODS AT ALL!
Last edited by Iam Broke; Jun 25, 2010 at 01:39 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Never been to a dyno, don't need to.
Prob around 260/260 though, that's what I tell people.
After all, it's just a Cobalt.
When my brother drove it, I told him he better steer with two hands.
Terminator2 worked with me a lot over the first 6 mos of tuning this thing. He's the best.
Prob around 260/260 though, that's what I tell people.
After all, it's just a Cobalt.
When my brother drove it, I told him he better steer with two hands.
Terminator2 worked with me a lot over the first 6 mos of tuning this thing. He's the best.
In my opinion, your car has at least a 100 HP MORE than that (to the fly that is).
Nope, I know what others dyno at and I'm slower, I'd guess 330/380 at the wheels. I was gonna dyno at the CED meet if I went but they didn't get a dyno and I have to work anyway.
I can't get the tires to slip in 3rd on a throttle roll in unless it's cold out. It's a slug, ronn.
Edit: I just saw you said to the FW, yeah, maybe so.
I can't get the tires to slip in 3rd on a throttle roll in unless it's cold out. It's a slug, ronn.
Edit: I just saw you said to the FW, yeah, maybe so.
Make sure the tabs on the spring hat are pointing in towards the engine bay. There should be some paint on the hat and the mount from the factory, so hopefully they don't mess it up when they put it back together.
ronn, I reviewed a few of my old bookmarked logs & I was mistaken on my best 60-100, I did make the 4 sec club once in early March @ 4.86 sec.
Log showed intake air temp of 55*f. Just about a perfect day I guess.
Not enough lsj's around for me to practice on. Sorry.
Log showed intake air temp of 55*f. Just about a perfect day I guess.
Not enough lsj's around for me to practice on. Sorry.
Last edited by Iam Broke; Jun 25, 2010 at 10:35 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I hear ya...but HOW FAR OFF can my dyno be? Church Automotive days that his Dynapack can be about 7% higher than dynojet..but not always. My car does 60-100 in 6.3 sec. (verified) you do the math! Let's say 0-60 is 6 sec (conservative)..that's 12.3 sec to 100MPH. That *should* equate to a potential sub 13sec Qtr? No I don't have a time slip...just bench racing for now
Second, my SS/TC sedan does 60-100 in 6.0x seconds, multiple verifications, with the stock GMPP timing tables with my tuning over the GMPP tune. I guarantee I'm no where near 300whp and 360lb/ft of torque.
*Disclaimer*
No dick swinging here. Just helping you put things into perspective.
First off, your numbers are inflated a bit. Don't take offense, just stating facts.
Second, my SS/TC sedan does 60-100 in 6.0x seconds, multiple verifications, with the stock GMPP timing tables with my tuning over the GMPP tune. I guarantee I'm no where near 300whp and 360lb/ft of torque.
*Disclaimer*
No dick swinging here. Just helping you put things into perspective.
Second, my SS/TC sedan does 60-100 in 6.0x seconds, multiple verifications, with the stock GMPP timing tables with my tuning over the GMPP tune. I guarantee I'm no where near 300whp and 360lb/ft of torque.
*Disclaimer*
No dick swinging here. Just helping you put things into perspective.
I guarantee I'm no where near 300whp and 360lb/ft of torque.
*Disclaimer*
No dick swinging here. Just helping you put things into perspective
I have the dyno sheet..do you have one to support your claim on your *HP GUARANTEE* for your car? If not, I would suggest that you keep the *dick swinging* comment to yourself. BTW, I qualified my dyno results stating that they *could be reading * 7-10% higher than a dynojet, per the tuners info.
I guarantee I'm no where near 300whp and 360lb/ft of torque.
*Disclaimer*
No dick swinging here. Just helping you put things into perspective
I have the dyno sheet..do you have one to support your claim on your *HP GUARANTEE* for your car? If not, I would suggest that you keep the *dick swinging* comment to yourself. BTW, I qualified my dyno results stating that they *could be reading * 7-10% higher than a dynojet, per the tuners info.
*Disclaimer*
No dick swinging here. Just helping you put things into perspective
I have the dyno sheet..do you have one to support your claim on your *HP GUARANTEE* for your car? If not, I would suggest that you keep the *dick swinging* comment to yourself. BTW, I qualified my dyno results stating that they *could be reading * 7-10% higher than a dynojet, per the tuners info.
Regarding your dyno numbers, cool man. Glad to see you have a baseline. You stated your 6.3 sec 60-100 time and I provided mine. I know for a fact that I do not have 300whp and 360wtq. So for you to think that your 6.3 60-100 quantifies your 300whp, is wrong in my opinion. Let the mods begin buddy!
Also, I do not have a reason to dyno my car. It's bone stock aside from my tuning (lots of thanks to Iam broke, BYT and many others)on top of the GMS1 3 bar maps/canned tune. 6.0x seconds 60-100 for me is my measure of performance and it's slow
Go ahead..make a guess
Let's just say, you would *only* need another second at most and it would be going over 107MPH.Thought for the day>>>Cars that weigh 3300 (with driver)lbs and have a trap speed of 107MPH with 12.6 sec ET>>>>321HP (flywheel). Yes bench racing at it's best..but my #s are not that far out.
http://www.dragtimes.com/horsepower-...power+Estimate
Here's another interesting link that shows a car with similar performance:
Note:
300whp/364wtq - daily tune. Only ran once with the tune (less aggressive one to minimalize wheel spin) and pulled a 12.9 @ 111
If you put those results into my calculator link in previous post, you get 328 FLYWHEEL HP for these results (assuming 3300 Lbs with driver). That's in line with his posted 300WHP.
http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...66&postcount=1
Any car capable of 60-100 in 6 sec (11.6sec 0-100mph) is definitely capable of turning #s in the range of 107MPH+ in the Qtr
Note:
300whp/364wtq - daily tune. Only ran once with the tune (less aggressive one to minimalize wheel spin) and pulled a 12.9 @ 111
If you put those results into my calculator link in previous post, you get 328 FLYWHEEL HP for these results (assuming 3300 Lbs with driver). That's in line with his posted 300WHP.
http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...66&postcount=1
Any car capable of 60-100 in 6 sec (11.6sec 0-100mph) is definitely capable of turning #s in the range of 107MPH+ in the Qtr
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ronn, you need to calm down a little. You're data-racing. Your car is just like 90% of the Cobalts on this site. We're happy that you're excited about your car, but you're starting to sound like a 17 yr old.
Yeah, looking at some of the various LNF tune files i have(Bryan"06black", Shaun Mcdee, and even Psychostevo) they all only tune the DAL 50%+ 40% and under is all left to stock settings
Carry on.
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" I used to drive it when comming up to Laguna Seca to race my Porsche back in the old days. Yes I have a background in racing cars with the Porsche Clubs in Calif and have run many types tracks out here in Ca over the years."
So, you were racing that Porsche when you were what? 12?
So, you were racing that Porsche when you were what? 12?
" I used to drive it when comming up to Laguna Seca to race my Porsche back in the old days. Yes I have a background in racing cars with the Porsche Clubs in Calif and have run many types tracks out here in Ca over the years."
So, you were racing that Porsche when you were what? 12?
So, you were racing that Porsche when you were what? 12?
Pill mod
I have some someplace with the hahn intake I think... yep.
Ronn - properly tuned with TC off it should smoke 'em 4k to redline in second if you just floor it at 3500 rpm. You have more HP on the table if you want it. You should be able to make the clutch slip if you want to in third when you nail it at 55-60.
Just my two years experience with the TC talking.
Not the max airload tables, prob the desired tables need some work. I told you earlier how I'd set them up. Max airload can & should be 100% 2700 rpm & up.
Ronn - properly tuned with TC off it should smoke 'em 4k to redline in second if you just floor it at 3500 rpm. You have more HP on the table if you want it. You should be able to make the clutch slip if you want to in third when you nail it at 55-60.
Just my two years experience with the TC talking.
Not the max airload tables, prob the desired tables need some work. I told you earlier how I'd set them up. Max airload can & should be 100% 2700 rpm & up.
. BTW, that's a neat place for that..easy to put in take out.
