08-10 SS Turbocharged General Discussion Discuss the 2008 - 2009 Chevy Cobalt SS Turbocharged. On sale since the second quarter of 2008.

ESC triggering often

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 30, 2012 | 01:51 PM
  #1  
krispy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: 03-26-08
Posts: 3,420
Likes: 3
From: Somewhere, MI
ESC triggering often

So my 08 has 64k on it driving on shitty Michigan roads. When doing some freeway on ramps and interchanges my car keeps triggering the stability control at speeds well below where it did while new. Car also feels like it rolls more.

I'm thinking the shocks are no longer doing their job, plausible theory or could there be something else wrong? Any good way to check?
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 02:05 PM
  #2  
YelloEye's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 01-12-07
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 36
From: WA
Originally Posted by krispy
So my 08 has 64k on it driving on shitty Michigan roads. When doing some freeway on ramps and interchanges my car keeps triggering the stability control at speeds well below where it did while new. Car also feels like it rolls more.

I'm thinking the shocks are no longer doing their job, plausible theory or could there be something else wrong? Any good way to check?
has been doing that since a month after I bought it. Hold TC button for 10 sec, problem solved I only ever leave mine on when its wet or snowy.
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 02:40 PM
  #3  
AARON-SS-TC's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 07-24-11
Posts: 2,983
Likes: 1
From: Bradenton, FL.
i concur...hell, mine even activates when im wot since ive been tuned...so now i just always hold the button down for 10 seconds and it takes everything off.
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 02:45 PM
  #4  
Slowbalt2000's Avatar
Moderator
Platinum Member
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 05-15-11
Posts: 27,333
Likes: 584
From: Livonia, MI
Trade you my base model... You won't have to worry about that anymore
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 05:37 PM
  #5  
Nevacme's Avatar
Premium Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 04-10-11
Posts: 148
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Mines is like that now....It started as soon as i put new DWS tires on

Also it sways when going in a straight line
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 06:13 PM
  #6  
northvibe's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 06-07-06
Posts: 14,121
Likes: 11
From: Minnesota
Originally Posted by krispy
So my 08 has 64k on it driving on shitty Michigan roads. When doing some freeway on ramps and interchanges my car keeps triggering the stability control at speeds well below where it did while new. Car also feels like it rolls more.

I'm thinking the shocks are no longer doing their job, plausible theory or could there be something else wrong? Any good way to check?
bad roads, bad tires and wheel spin?

disable the nanny's by holding t/c button for 10 seconds. Someone on the lnf forums had a plug chip that swapped it so it was disabled every time you start the car.

Ya if those are the stock shocks/struts, they will be shitty with our **** roads. Get new one from ced..or I guess some get koni's.
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 06:43 PM
  #7  
Nfamous60's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: 12-04-11
Posts: 3,136
Likes: 1
From: El paso
mines only steps in when im really gettin on it theres a nice highway here with a nice sweeping curve to it when i get in late nights i take it at 80+ and it holds very surprised with the handling, but when the bac steps out to much it keeps it in line. NOT SURE why everyone takes theirs off, isnt that the last line of recovery if you lose control?
Reply
Old May 30, 2012 | 07:33 PM
  #8  
YelloEye's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 01-12-07
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 36
From: WA
Originally Posted by Nfamous60
mines only steps in when im really gettin on it theres a nice highway here with a nice sweeping curve to it when i get in late nights i take it at 80+ and it holds very surprised with the handling, but when the bac steps out to much it keeps it in line. NOT SURE why everyone takes theirs off, isnt that the last line of recovery if you lose control?
Mine tries to kill me, no joke. If I take on ramps hard around here, nice big sweeping clover leaves, it starts locking up tires around the first 1/3 of the corner and doesn't stop until I've slowed down. During that period of time I have very little control over the vehicle other than letting off the gas and hoping it goes where I'm pointing it to. With ESC off I can take ramps and corners harder, and I don't have to worry about it cutting in and messing up my fun.

The ESC program was written with the stock tires in mind and no suspension modifications, I've got Pedders, a rear swaybar, and Toyo S.Drives. The car is more neutral around corners with my setup and has more lateral grip. Since the ESC was written with just the rear sway it expects the car to take corners at a certain angle with the tail stepping in a bit normally, with a swaybar the tail naturally wants to hang out a little bit more. This change in angle makes the ESC algorithm think that the vehicle is about to enter a spin and it applies braking to attempt to correct it.

Understeer? Let off the skinny pedal a bit.
Oversteer? More skinny pedal.
4 wheel slide? You over estimated your grip and deserve whatever you get out of that one. Can usually can be remedied by letting off the gas and steering out a tad before bringing it back in followed by more gas though.

That's why I turn it off.
Reply
Old May 31, 2012 | 01:14 AM
  #9  
chevytrucker's Avatar
New Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 04-12-08
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
From: Fairless Hills, PA
Mine rarely does anything. It will flash and I'll feel a tug on some high speed sweepers sometimes, but the thing that bothers me the most is when it thinks my wheels are spinning when I hit bumps. When that happens or when I expect it I'll switch into Competition Mode with two quick presses on the traction control button. It will still intervene if things get really hairy, but it lets you play around a lot before it does.

Originally Posted by YelloEye
4 wheel slide? You over estimated your grip and deserve whatever you get out of that one.
Four wheel slides are so much fun when planned. This thing is about as fun on gravel as my old 2wd S10. It's really balanced, especially compared to anything else fwd. I could hang the tail out for a lot longer with the truck though.
Reply
Old May 31, 2012 | 01:22 AM
  #10  
FasterIsBetter's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 05-15-10
Posts: 3,994
Likes: 2
From: South Charleston, WV
Mine did it ever since I went to a GMS1 Base File. I believe my CA Bushings are bad on my right side though as the car pulls HARD to the right under a big load and I have some clunking in the front end under bumps. I try to move the CA though and it doesn't budge. I will replace the CA and get back with you as my pillow ball strut mounts on my pedders apparently can't be replaced(tried getting them and pedders said they'd check and never did send me an email back) and they don't seem to be worn out.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 01:58 AM
  #11  
330.Cobalt.SS's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 05-17-14
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by YelloEye
has been doing that since a month after I bought it. Hold TC button for 10 sec, problem solved I only ever leave mine on when its wet or snowy.
When I turned mine off, in the first few minutes of me turning it off, my cel came one. I cleared the codes and hasn't came on since! Is that weird?
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 02:06 AM
  #12  
YelloEye's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 01-12-07
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 36
From: WA
Originally Posted by 330.Cobalt.SS
When I turned mine off, in the first few minutes of me turning it off, my cel came one. I cleared the codes and hasn't came on since! Is that weird?
Sounds unrelated. I don't suppose you scanned it before resetting?
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 02:47 AM
  #13  
m33pm33p's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-19-10
Posts: 780
Likes: 0
From: Coquitlam
it could easily come on more often if your cabs or shocks are done, giving your car a bit more slip angle, and triggering esc sooner. Everyone here who takes it off completely everyday, better hope you don't go to hot in the middle of a corner and esc could have helped you before you 180 into a barrier.

Usually if you are triggering esc you are either driving too hard or not cornering properly..
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 07:00 AM
  #14  
tomj77's Avatar
Super Moderator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: 07-14-08
Posts: 12,039
Likes: 156
From: canada
It doesn't matter how fast or slow ur going, if ecu senses ur gonna go sideways or there may be a chance of going sideways it kicks in, mine goes off going like 40 and hitting a few to many bumps , if car slips sideways a bit it kicks in. It's working fine
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 01:48 PM
  #15  
YelloEye's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 01-12-07
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 36
From: WA
Originally Posted by m33pm33p
it could easily come on more often if your cabs or shocks are done, giving your car a bit more slip angle, and triggering esc sooner. Everyone here who takes it off completely everyday, better hope you don't go to hot in the middle of a corner and esc could have helped you before you 180 into a barrier.

Usually if you are triggering esc you are either driving too hard or not cornering properly..
Mine triggers ESC if the tires slip even a tiny bit. Accelerating out of cloverleafs is the biggest problem. Late braking will do it too but that's how my car is balanced. If I could have the ESC set at the level it is in Comp mode all the time without the stupid Launch control message popping up at stop lights I'd be happy for the most part.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 02:08 PM
  #16  
tomj77's Avatar
Super Moderator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: 07-14-08
Posts: 12,039
Likes: 156
From: canada
Lol what's ur issue with launch control. Just press enter and it goes away
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2014 | 12:56 AM
  #17  
YelloEye's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 01-12-07
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 36
From: WA
Originally Posted by tomj77
Lol what's ur issue with launch control. Just press enter and it goes away
It pops up at every stop.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DocSvensk
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
7
Sep 27, 2015 02:24 PM
soundjunky
General Cobalt
16
Sep 16, 2015 03:30 PM
themacguy
New Members Check In!!
32
Aug 26, 2015 07:18 PM
Novajoe
Tuning
0
Oct 3, 2007 03:45 PM
Incognito11
Pictures & Videos
6
Apr 27, 2007 11:46 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:14 PM.