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Old 12-31-2010, 05:51 PM
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Friend "Blew Up" His Stage 1 t/c..??

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So, last year, my friend upgraded from his old LS sedan to a 10 t/c. It's all stock aside from GM stage 1 and some kind of exhaust..

It never really gave him any problems aside from the normal Cobalt ones.. Until the other night. He was merging onto the highway by us, picked up speed, and shifted. But he missed the shift. Not sure if he mis-shifted or what, but the "missed the shift". Then suddenly, the car basically started making what sounded like "metal clanking around in his motor" noises, and wouldn't move.

Again, I wasn't there, and I'm just going off of what he was telling me over the phone. I don't know if it's some type of actual engine problem, or something blowing in the tranny, etc. He got it towed to the dealer, and they're gonna have a look at it. But that means charge you out the ass, and void your warranty. This car is obviously still basically brand new, and he's paying almost 500 a month on it. So this is killing him. Any idea as to what this could be from the description? I know it's rough, but any ideas? The stage kit was dealer installed, so they can't blow that off on him. But I just hope the thing isn't shot. It was damn fun to drive. But if so, I guess we have a really nice t/c to part out. lol

Thanks!
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dibs on rims!
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I just want the seats. lol
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Sounds like he money shifted. AKA, stuffing it into the wrong gear.
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So you're thinking just blown tranny?
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Let's say he was trying to shift from third to fourth, but instead accidently went into second, that over revs the engine mechanically and can cause big problems like bent valves, etc.
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Yeah, he insists it's motor. Would you say it's a lost cause? I bet a new crate LNF would cost half as much as the car's worth.
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I would say all modern cars have, protection against over-revving the motor on an upshift, thats why we have rev limiters, the problem with them is however, that it only protects on an upshift and not a downshift.

Im not a car expert but i cant see why it would be tranny related, i would guess more along the lines of the gasket, springs, valves and so on.
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Originally Posted by aweSOMeBalt
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haha why do you want another set of TC rims?
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
Yeah, he insists it's motor. Would you say it's a lost cause? I bet a new crate LNF would cost half as much as the car's worth.
No way a crate is worth half of the car, especially being a 2010.... You can pick up crates for under $5000 I believe. Anyways, if he's all stock except a dealer installed GMS1, he should be covered under warranty 100%
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Originally Posted by sponge14
No way a crate is worth half of the car, especially being a 2010.... You can pick up crates for under $5000 I believe. Anyways, if he's all stock except a dealer installed GMS1, he should be covered under warranty 100%
Lol not when you miss a shift and grenade the motor. Sure you can lie and say it happened another way but if you tell them otherwise they wont cover you. Im sure they have a way to check to see what happened before the car blew up too. If not then it will be easier to lie.
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Originally Posted by batboy
Let's say he was trying to shift from third to fourth, but instead accidently went into second, that over revs the engine mechanically and can cause big problems like bent valves, etc.
I did it one time. Pinged the rev limiter shifting from 4th to 2nd , I just got the car and it only had 2500 miles on it ... I thought I really messed it up but after it banged the rev limiter like that it popped into neutral right away like it is supposed to. Never had any problems yet..

I think maybe it screwed the synchros up a little bit because I am able to pull it out of gear pretty easily without pressing in the clutch but it still runs fine. It now has 30k on the dash so...... Fluke deal IMHO ....
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Sounds like a Blown Trans
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they'll replace it
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Originally Posted by PenguinPIE
haha why do you want another set of TC rims?
One set for winter, one to powdercoat for summer. I'm not a fan of many aftermarket rims right now for the TC.
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Would they try to play the "your car has an aftermarket exhaust, so you're fucked" card?
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Lifters maybe? Hasnt somebody on here shattered their lifters before by missing a shift and over revving? Just throwing it out there, Im not sure.
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Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
I did it one time. Pinged the rev limiter shifting from 4th to 2nd , I just got the car and it only had 2500 miles on it ... I thought I really messed it up but after it banged the rev limiter like that it popped into neutral right away like it is supposed to. Never had any problems yet..

I think maybe it screwed the synchros up a little bit because I am able to pull it out of gear pretty easily without pressing in the clutch but it still runs fine. It now has 30k on the dash so...... Fluke deal IMHO ....
Once you unload the trans by taking your foot off the gas you can slip it out of gear. Hell my old 55 Chevy truck had a top loader 4 speed that I didn't use the clutch in other than to take off or come to a stop. Your synchs are probably ok as long as it still goes into gear smoothly.

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Would they try to play the "your car has an aftermarket exhaust, so you're fucked" card?
As far as I know the after market exhaust will only void the exhaust warranty. They might try to say that but just a catback should have no effect on blowing a motor or trans like that. I think he will run more into a problem when they scan the ECM and see what he was doing before it blew. They might not warranty it because of "operator error" but the built in safeties of the engine and trans should have saved it like PrincessTurbo stated above.
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Would they try to play the "your car has an aftermarket exhaust, so you're fucked" card?
Don't be surprised
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they'll replace it, ******* here blew his motor doing trifecta **** and they replaced it no questions
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possibly bent valves. then sounds like it went in limp mode
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Happened to me it sounds like tranny. If the car idles and makes this sound then engine damage occured or the car is ingear with the tranny being blown. I say he went from second to third lol. By by third.... warranty should cover it if ure friend is smart. Gm will try to fuc* him over so tell him to fight anything and everything gm says that is. Negative to him and his car.
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I agree with floating and bending the valves. The "black box" will show that he missed a shift and over-revved. He will have to pay to get it fixed, which is what should happen. It was, by his own admission, his fault, after all.
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About the erlier post my car had its lifters grenaded when badbaltguy owned it.
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does the car run?


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