GM's answer to my rough engine running.
There is a "knock safety" rev limiter, but if you are getting enough knock to cause that then there is a problem that they should be fixing. I am going to say it is probably the old coil pack going bad, but it could also be a fuel problem as well.
This is similar to what Ive been having going on. My car runs and drives fine in stock mode, I can get to 7K cleanly!! When I switch the tune on I hit a wall around 5800 and it almost sounds like misfiring and the car noses over. The logs are clean, trims are on, 0 KR when it happens!! I just go my new coil packs in the mail today, going to test them out tonight hopefully. Def seems spark related!
This is similar to what Ive been having going on. My car runs and drives fine in stock mode, I can get to 7K cleanly!! When I switch the tune on I hit a wall around 5800 and it almost sounds like misfiring and the car noses over. The logs are clean, trims are on, 0 KR when it happens!! I just go my new coil packs in the mail today, going to test them out tonight hopefully. Def seems spark related!
Let us know!!!
These are the EXACT symptoms that occur when you try driving the car without a MAF sensor, though that should throw a code. Swap with someone else's MAF and see if the problem is still there.
They've had it for 4 days now and they can't find the issue. I've had 3 techs look at it including a 25year tech...nothing zip none
It's so annoying I've had it on diagnostics over n over no code thrown. It's like finding a needle in a hay stack imo
It's so annoying I've had it on diagnostics over n over no code thrown. It's like finding a needle in a hay stack imo
Last edited by Josh Leverington; Jul 29, 2010 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I haven't messed with mine yet, sorry!! I have the coil packs sitting there and the wife is out tonight with my daughter. Im hoping to test them out tonight quick and either that's the fix or rule it out. I just changed plugs within 500miles but I have a 2nd set of new ones to test anyway also. My MAF and Purge solenoid should be here tomorrow but this weekend is packed solid (in a wedding) so Im not sure I will get to try those out 
Ill post back when I do or hopefully you're dealer figures it out too lol!
Ill post back when I do or hopefully you're dealer figures it out too lol!
I haven't messed with mine yet, sorry!! I have the coil packs sitting there and the wife is out tonight with my daughter. Im hoping to test them out tonight quick and either that's the fix or rule it out. I just changed plugs within 500miles but I have a 2nd set of new ones to test anyway also. My MAF and Purge solenoid should be here tomorrow but this weekend is packed solid (in a wedding) so Im not sure I will get to try those out 
Ill post back when I do or hopefully you're dealer figures it out too lol!
Ill post back when I do or hopefully you're dealer figures it out too lol!
This is similar to what Ive been having going on. My car runs and drives fine in stock mode, I can get to 7K cleanly!! When I switch the tune on I hit a wall around 5800 and it almost sounds like misfiring and the car noses over. The logs are clean, trims are on, 0 KR when it happens!! I just go my new coil packs in the mail today, going to test them out tonight hopefully. Def seems spark related!
Last edited by Josh Leverington; Jul 30, 2010 at 01:29 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
But I thought they'd narrowed it down to a secondary rev-limiter, bunch of asshats
. Has GM sent a technician on-site from headquarters to take a look, or are these technicians in the garage on the phone with GM Tech (sorry if you had posted it and I missed this part)?

No clue I have no way of testing while doing pulls unless osmeones in the car with me on a HPT. the wastegate sound is evident while it is spuddering and back firing
Last edited by Josh Leverington; Jul 30, 2010 at 11:15 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
The problem started about 2 months ago when I would be under full throttle climbing threw the RPMs, as the RPMs reached roughly 5200-5500 my car would lose steam noticeably hard and begin to back fire and pop and bang all the way to redline and begin to back fire and pop and bang all the way to redline. I put the stock DP in and disconnected my battery to get rid of the engine light which it did, went for a drive same thing happens everytime in the exact same place. Changed spark plugs, did a compression test, brought it to a buddy to check codes (none). So now it was GMs time since I was due for my power steering n charge piping recall anyways.
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http://www.2carpros.com/how_does_it_work/backfire.htm
BTW, I think either FUEL (lean) interuption or a VACUUM (boost) leak could be the problem.
Good luck and I hope this helps...
Last edited by ronn; Jul 31, 2010 at 02:31 AM.
As i posted on HPTuners forum, im having the same problem. I do notice in my logs that VE airflow pegs about 67lb/min which is a lot higher than expected of less than 40lb/min. Hoping this might give insight.
So someone else had their VE airflow read 67lb/min. It was because their MAP sensor was blown. I ordered a new one (stock not staged) from my local dealer for $70, picking it up tomorrow morning and will report results once installed.
Thats what they thought it was, but everyone that owns one can say that they dont have this issue, except a couple. I say i didnt want the car back until it was fixed. I got into a arguing match with the "25yr tech" that says he knows it all could not find a problem. they had it on their diagnostics and what not they couldnt find anything, thats the only thing they did, they also phoned GM and they told him that the rev limiter is set at 6300 so i said screw it and i said ill pick it up "thanks for nothing" *click*

if it a weak coil and causing misfire try to gap the plug closer gap them at .010 whit that it will run bad at idle but under full trottle if it ok the problem whent away it a bad coil or bad ignition system
most people at the gm dealer dont know nothing about performance
most people at the gm dealer dont know nothing about performance
VE airflow pegs at 67 lbs/min when the compressor surges.
replaced MAP and TMAP sensors. No longer see VE airflow hit 67lbs/min... but car still acts goofy up top. Thats my 2 cents (+ $95 for the stage sensors). Would be great if somebody growing a money tree in the backyard could figure this out...


