is gms stage1 turbo upgrade better or a tune
Tring to decide betwwen a turbo upgrade or a tune. Witch one is better for the money and why. thanksmuch for the input.
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What is the GM stage 1 turbo upgrade?
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the GM LNF Turbo Upgrade is just sensors and a tune. It all depends on what you want, if you have warranty. If you have no warranty go with an aftermarket tune, Trifecta or HPT. The aftermarket tunes will net you more power and for the same or less money.
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I know what the GM stage 1 upgrade is, just didn't know what the turbo upgrade was.
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Technically the kit is called "GM LNF Turbo Upgrade" there was huge debate going on if it should be called that because it isnt actually upgrading the turbo at all and it shouldnt be called that. So everyone on here just started calling it GMS1. As far as I know there is now actual turbo upgrade from GM.
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Yeah I was gonna say, I've had my 08 LNF for almost 3 years and I've been in here for longer and I've never seen it called it. Talk about my lack of attention to detail. LOL
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For the price u pay for each, a tune is the better deal. More power and half the cost.
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Originally Posted by AcesNEights
(Post 5761706)
For the price u pay for each, a tune is the better deal. More power and half the cost.
The GM Stage 1 upgrade keeps the warranty fully intact and is tuned more conservatively. |
Originally Posted by 08SSTCRD
(Post 5761729)
Except that an aftermarket tune voids your engine warranty and increases the possibility of failure.
The GM Stage 1 upgrade keeps the warranty fully intact and is tuned more conservatively. |
Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
(Post 5761737)
Been modded with Trifecta tune for 2 years. Been to Stealership on 3 different occasions to have WARRANTY work done.
If anything happens to the engine though and they can attribute it to your aftermarket tune, they are not liable for the cost of the repairs. Not everyone likes to roll the dice. |
Dealer wont know u tuned it unless something actually happens to where they have to check the pcm. If they dont have a reason they will never know. My car has been tuned since i bought it. Oil ring broke in my 3rd cylinder and they still replaced the motor even tho i tuned it. They didnt even know it was tuned, after i flashed it back to stock.
All u have to do is flash back to stock and they will never know. |
Originally Posted by 08SSTCRD
(Post 5761747)
Good for you, you got lucky.
If anything happens to the engine though and they can attribute it to your aftermarket tune, they are not liable for the cost of the repairs. Not everyone likes to roll the dice. |
I just dynoed the GMS1 in this thread, 280whp and 325ft-lbs ain't too shabby I feel. I like the comfort of the warranty, and the power is a good stepping stone until there's no more warranty to want to keep. ;)
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Originally Posted by kazinova
(Post 5762622)
I just dynoed the GMS1 in this thread, 280whp and 325ft-lbs ain't too shabby I feel. I like the comfort of the warranty, and the power is a good stepping stone until there's no more warranty to want to keep. ;)
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Originally Posted by AcesNEights
(Post 5761748)
Dealer wont know u tuned it unless something actually happens to where they have to check the pcm. If they dont have a reason they will never know. My car has been tuned since i bought it. Oil ring broke in my 3rd cylinder and they still replaced the motor even tho i tuned it. They didnt even know it was tuned, after i flashed it back to stock.
All u have to do is flash back to stock and they will never know. |
How could they? If you write entire, it erases all history of tunes in your pcm only showing the stock tune you put into it. Personally I dont give a shit about the dealer, if they get stuck with the bill thats on them not me, if my car needs warrantied they have to warranty it. Not much they can do about that.
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Originally Posted by AcesNEights
(Post 5762707)
How could they? If you write entire, it erases all history of tunes in your pcm only showing the stock tune you put into it. Personally I dont give a shit about the dealer, if they get stuck with the bill thats on them not me, if my car needs warrantied they have to warranty it. Not much they can do about that.
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Well when my oil ring broke they replaced my motor no questions asked. Ask tommyp2010 he works there. I had it tuned and an exhaust. They couldnt prove anything was done to it. And dealers dobt pay for the parts when they warranty Nythibg. GM does, te dealer gwts paid back whatever they spent on parts that nee warrantied. So the dealer doesnt care whether or not it gets warrantied. They ask GM before they do it if it gets warrantied or not.
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Originally Posted by AcesNEights
(Post 5762707)
How could they? If you write entire, it erases all history of tunes in your pcm only showing the stock tune you put into it. Personally I dont give a shit about the dealer, if they get stuck with the bill thats on them not me, if my car needs warrantied they have to warranty it. Not much they can do about that.
Long and short it is your decision OP. GMS1 is warranty and allows your car to respond to bolt-ons as the learn down feature is removed. It is also more expensive and more conservative. Aftermarket is cheaper and more power, but you run a risk and will lose your warranty if the dealership finds out. My personal opinion? Go aftermarket with a good tuner and don't push it (somewhat conservative). It will be cheaper, get you more power, and any problems you might have would only be long term wear and tear so by then your warranty would be ended anyways. |
Just get a 2nd pcm problem solved lol
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Originally Posted by awesomebalt
(Post 5761697)
technically the kit is called "gm lnf turbo upgrade" there was huge debate going on if it should be called that because it isnt actually upgrading the turbo at all and it shouldnt be called that. So everyone on here just started calling it gms1. as far as i know there is now actual turbo upgrade from gm.
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Originally Posted by AcesNEights
(Post 5762872)
Just get a 2nd pcm problem solved lol
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Originally Posted by gotboost?17
(Post 5762933)
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Originally Posted by emiller
(Post 5762771)
They don't have to warranty shit. Lots of dealers will reject them. When I did warranty you could see that people would go dealer to dealer til someone covered it. Those usually got rejected by the OEM for obvious reasons which means the 1 dealer dumb enough to cover it screwed themselves. After awhile they got smart and stopped doing it too.
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
(Post 5763216)
If something major breaks and they say my tune/parts caused it, I'll pay for it no question.
But how many threads are there on here where someone does something that causes a failure and then comes on here crying cause GM wouldn't warranty it? |
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