i just ordered the tune, it was 500 dollars with the cable the tune itself is 299 is thier tune any good, ohh and my car is stock how much power should i get?

 

You know you have a few tuners out that way that deal with hptuners? It would been alot cheaper, but it depends on your car and how it takes it!!

 

You just blindly spent 500 dollars and then ask if its any good??? Man I want your job

Yes Trifecta is good, But you should of ordered thru Trifecta and cut the middle man out.

 

lmao, iam send back the cable it gonna be 299 only they refund the cable witch is 200 dollars for a stupid cable. from trifecta it was gonna be 350 i dont know if it included the cable, it said i should bust 23 psi is that rigth?

 

lol sounds funny when you put it like that,shouldve just went with hp tuners

 

MPx is good. I too ordered the Trifecta tune from them but I kept the cable for purposes. I've tuned a couple of cars and made myself s bit of change

 

yea thats true but down in miami thier very little lnf i have only seen 2 so far these cars are to rare, it a hasle to find a place that work with them

 

I've only tuned 1 LNF car! The other 5 cars were 3 2010 Camaros, 1 LTZ Cruize, and a LSJ Cobalt that flagged me down after he saw me rape an STi!!! Wanted to know what I had.. LOL

If you get the black box from MPx you will have the capability to tune any of the cars Vince Tunes!!!!

 

lol, i dont know that much about tunning that why iam not interested in the cable

 

The good part is you don't tune!! You submit a form to Vince via his dealer only website, then you get an email for the tune. Download it, run the Trifecta software and upload the tune to the car. 15 minutes later you have successfully tuned a car.. So basically you're not tuning the car you just upload it, it's like syncing an iPhone!!!! That easy

 

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Not to be a dick, but after 15 minutes you have by no means "successfully tuned a car" and the fact that this is the general understanding of Trifecta tuning is the only real issue I personally have with it.

The tuner himself (Vince) I personally don't have an issue with, nor is the fact that people can actually resell a Trifecta tune. What I do have an issue with is more of the fact that the "resllers" and/or the customers who is purchasing the Trifecta tune to load themselves are for the most part very uneducated on what's actually going with the whole tuning process and assume that you just load the first base tune file and call it a day with nothing more involved when this couldn't be further from the truth. I have unfortunately seen this time and time again, always resulting poorly in the end. Just because a car has had a tune file loaded, this by no means is saying that the car is actually "tuned" and dialed in to perform correctly to its absolute peak.

The long and short of it...

The Trifecta tune is a solid tune assuming that the time that is actually needed to correctly dial in the tune via datalogging the ever living snot out of the car is actually put in.

Again I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm just venting and putting in my own 2 cents.

 

^ For people that want a base and conservative file, it is okay and you get most power besides a custom tune. For people that want to max it out and tune the **** out of it, go with HP tuners. Beware with HP tuners, if the guy that is tuning your car has no experience on LNF I would stay away. My exact reasons why I played it safe and went with Trifecta. Did not want to risk some guy that just deals with LSx engines to come tune my LNF saying he knows how to tune them...

 

U dont tune the cars with trifecta u just flash the tune onto the car........

 

Unfortunately the base Trifecta tune file has giving quite a few cars issues so I'm not really sure I agree with that. Again, I personally have no issue with Trifecta or Vince, I just have an issue with assuming the base tune file is completely safe to run. The biggest issue I'm seeing is the fuel trims are pretty wild and all over the place. Some logs I've seen the STFTs were off as much as 18% WOT.

 

I should have added you need to datalog the car, send it to Vince so that he may look at it and make sure it looks good.

 

Exactly. Just because you have a few people giving it a bad name does not mean that all dealers are clueless. I myself am very familiar with tuning cars and personally tune my own 72' Nova prostreet car as well as a few other cars using HP Tuners. I have worked very closely with Vince on several cars, one being Fabian's original Treadstone prototype car. I worked with Vince for several hours on Fabian's car and normally spend more than a couple of hours on every car and with every owner that I sell a tune to. And also, to OP, you should have checked the Trifecta website for dealers, I'm only about 40mins north of you and would have met you half way if you wanted, for the same price.

 

Just as a side note here, I'd recommend investing in an Innovate LM-2 with the wideband clamp also. It's only like $300-400 total and it's a really good tool, especially to help Vince out with the AFR and it's cool to show your customer's what is going on with their car in real time. I've used the wideband on probably 5-6 LSJ cars now to get a 100% accurate picture of the AFR and see if it drops off anywhere. One customer picked up 17whp after I suggested Vince richen it up a little bit around 5k where it was dropping off.

 

I absolutely agree with you on this, however there are quite a few more dealers out there that do not take the time to work with Vince to dial the tune in correctly that than there are. Now on top of that, add the fact that most of the people tend to get a little excited with the added power that they neglect the fact that things need to still be dialed in quite a bit.

Now on that note, I've been Trifecta tuned one way or another for over 2 years now with minimal issues. I do however log the ever living snot out of my car on a regular basis using scanxl (now HPT.. ) and also use this to give any Trifecta customer I take care of a live datalog to go over so they (and I) can see any and all changes that are being made along with any potential things that Vince has missed.

 

Exactly. I've never had one of my customers call me with tune related problems. Now I do get a lot of calls from people accusing the tune of causing problems, to which I promptly correct them. Had one guy tell me the tune was causing all sorts of problems, ended up being a evap purge solenoid... smh.

 

I always datalog the cars I've tuned and send them to Vince. On one of the Camaros I must have sent 3-6 emails with about 5 datalogs each just to get it the way the customer wanted it. None of them have complained or have any issues with the tunes. All 3 Camaros are co workers of mine so I would know if their car is not running well. I hear them all the time at work about how "FAST" their cars are.. The Cruze belongs to my cousin. always tells me it's a different car with the tune, the LNF cobalt is a good friend of mine and the LSJ....I haven't seen it since I uploaded the finished product from Vince

 

Trifecta charges 350 for their LNF tune... MPx charges 300. I'm a little confused by this, unless mpx isn't offering any data logging.

 

just to add in

not being a dick

why would you buy a tune when you are bone stock?

 

MPx doesn't do dataloging it's Vince who reviews the logs and sends you the tweak if needed. As for price I don't know why it's $50 cheaper from MPx than from Vince directly. Maybe it's because they are a dealer and are able to offer the tunes at a lower price??? I know that the black box and cables that are needed to upload the tune via laptop are somewhere around the $150 price range. That's why the require a deposit of $200 just in case you don't return it.

 

What work do you need done? You have a couple really good resources down here, there are several LNFs and LSJs that are fairly heavily modded and quite fast.