I know one's not necessarily better then the other. But I bought myself a Hahn CIA, have a turbo xs dp and Hahn catback sitting in the garage, warranties coming up in a month so it's time to start deciding on what I want for a tune.

The car is my daily driver, so reliability is a HUGE factor, I'm just looking for a mild tune(clutch and piping are expected down the road, but I dont have the money for them now). I want to change launch control rpm's but thats about it, I dont even see the point in being able to switch tunes when I'll just throw CEL's and **** my car up if I do(I installed the turbo xs downpipe when I got it, it threw a CEL and spent a few weeks at the dealership, didnt run worth a ****)

What are the differences between each? Basic pros and cons, I don't want biased "I RAPED A HPT WITH A 27 PSI TRIFECTA TUNE" bullshit

I really do not have a good understanding, from what I know(at least trifecta), you order the tuner+cable, log your data, then send that into Vince with what you want, he sends you a tune? How much does each tune cost? Is HPT the same?

 

Unless you find someone who is really experienced with HPTuners and is near you, go with Trifecta.

HPTuners is not the same as trifecta. HPT is a do-it-yourself tuning suite. Comes with the datalogging/scanning and tuning software for your laptop, and the interface cable.

 

Just get the GM stage 1 kit or whatever they call it. Mild tune and keeps your warranty.

PS: INCOMING TRIFECTA VS HPT SPAM

 

Better not be...

 

Up to you really like stated above, if you know a reputable tuner near you HPT is fine, tell them to make you a safe tune. If not go trifecta. Both can make either aggressive and safe tunes. Nothing else needs to be said really.

Also note though that until the end of this month you can get a deal from most trifecta vendors.

 

you have 100k on an 09?

...............and you want to tune it??

 

im sure hes talking about the 3 year/36k mile

 

Yea I can't afford that, and I all the boltons would be useless if i did that


Powertrain is 5 yr/100k, but basic is 3 yr, which will be up in january. Might as well wait, this car has had a TON of issues, once basic is up, dealerships will find ways to void powertrain. The car has had a ridiculous amount of warranty work done to it already. The cars only got 25k on it


Anyone know of any good tuners around the STL area? Do tuners already have this equipment and just charge you for a tune? My parents know of a guy who said he can tune it, he used to race and is extremely experienced, but I'd rather rely on a reputable tuner that works with these cars. Hes more of an old school mechanic

 

if the guy has never tuned an lnf don't let him touch it unless you want a blown engine

ok as you know you can go hptuners or trifecta. either way you need the software and cable to install the tune in the car. you can purchase it for either. a trifecta cable and software is 200 iirc and hptuner software and cable is 500. with either you have that option to purchase the software or go to a tuner who has hptuners or to a trifecta dealer.

with trifecta only vince will tune your car. he will send you a base file tune for the mods you have...you will datalog with the supplied cable/software and send him the log. he will tweek tune...you datalog...send back...tweek tune...you get the idea....keep doing that till you and vince are happy with the car/tune. the selecta tune iirc is 350 plus 200 for the cable and thats a total of 550 bucks

with hp tuners you have more of an option on who tunes the car...there are several reputable tuners on this site who can tune you. the same process will apply if you have the hptuners software/cable the tuner will send you a base file...log....send log to tuner....tuner sends adjusted tune....rinse and repeat till you and tuner are satisfied. an hp tune from a tuner on this site will typically run about 200....maybe more...maybe less. plus the hptuners software/cable...and thats about 700 bucks.

i personally prefer hptuners...i believe there is more to be had from hptuners than trifecta. i own the program....i can change tunes whenever i want...i can make changes myself if i choose to do so and am not limited to only one person controlling the tuning like trifecta.

for the love of pete....make sure there is nothing mechanically wrong with the car before you tune it. if you try to tune out problems you will only end up with bigger problems. i say this because you expressed that the car has been to the dealer more times than a hooker spreads her legs.

don't think i necessarily spelled out the pros and cons of both but i will let you formulate those opinions.

 

^well said

 

Its all honestly just a choice man. Like said above, make sure your car is mechanically sound before you start messing with it. If you are in St. Louis you could make a 4 hr drive to ChevycobaltSS3 (James) in Kentucky and he will hook you up with an awesome tune. He is very knowledgable when it comes to these cars. If you don't want to go with that then just hit up Vince with Trifecta and have him hook you up

 

Can pretty much lock the thread after this post... Everything you want to know without the E-***** tape measure having to be brought out.

 

Hahahahaha this website makes me laugh every time.

When I had my Cobalt there were probably 3 people I would let touch it in the world. If you don't have a reputable HP tuner near you go trifecta otherwise go HP tuners. If you let some sketchy kid who thinks he's amazing with HP tuners touch your car thats your fault and it WILL blow up eventually.

/thread **** you bitches.

 

Just seen this lol.. I'm not here to talk ****. But andrewss/tc is in st Louis . He may be able to work with you.. i dunno. I tune him remotely since he has hptuners.


BTW for all the hatred I'm not promoting.. lol.....

 

Click.

I'm in STL and have HP Tuners.

 

Indeed.

 

Yup pretty much got everything I need there haha, thanks a ton man.

We bought the car in PA, by the time we got it to STL it was running like complete ****. and my parents wouldnt let me drive it back up there for some ******* reason, so i got stuck with this car. we took it to the dealership( i dont know much details) but the dealer said it was tuned for aftermarket turbo, showed reminents of nitrous, etc.. ended up being in the dealership for over a month, the dealership showed us there bill to chevy, it was in the 3k range. the list of parts was ridiculous, remember seeing on the bill they had to order 4 new pistons

 

Ur out of ur mind of you let some kid with a laptop time your car???

I don't care if he thinks he is hot **** cause he tuned his own car and(so far) he hasn't blown up

In all honesty......I seen some major hack jobs on CSS.net with even simple things like appearance mods

I'm handy with a wrench and even I wouldn't tune my own car......

 

fixed
/thread

 

Confucius say, opinion like *******, everyone have one.

 

Vince at trifecta has the most experience in tuning cars. He tunes more than just css's and irl's. Not saying other tuners arent good, just saying Vince has more experience. Trifecta FTW

 

****** a, $550 is way out of my price range though

 

confusius says, search the forums

 

I know the OP said he did not actuallly have 100k on his car. But if he did that shouldn't change anything. 100k is not even half of it's life. Well... It might be for most of the people on these forums and the way they treat their cars :P

 

550 is ALOT cheaper than a blown engine tho