issues with brigdestone 960as...
issues with brigdestone 960as...
i switched the factory tires out for the 960 as and now on acceleration car pulls hard to the left.. chevy blames tires....bridgestone blames car. this car is no longer fun to drive. its accually scary it pulls so hard. and when u let off it darts back to the right. i know there is torque steer but this is way beyond that. does anybody else have this prob since switching tires out.
i switched the factory tires out for the 960 as and now on acceleration car pulls hard to the left.. chevy blames tires....bridgestone blames car. this car is no longer fun to drive. its accually scary it pulls so hard. and when u let off it darts back to the right. i know there is torque steer but this is way beyond that. does anybody else have this prob since switching tires out.
I don't know if this is the cause, but who knows...I can't believe that a place that is called Firestone and does tires for a business can be dumb enough to put 3 on the right way and then do one backwards...idiots...
Good point...I had them mounted at Firestone Complete Auto Care and they had one on backwards...made them redo it...
I don't know if this is the cause, but who knows...I can't believe that a place that is called Firestone and does tires for a business can be dumb enough to put 3 on the right way and then do one backwards...idiots...
I don't know if this is the cause, but who knows...I can't believe that a place that is called Firestone and does tires for a business can be dumb enough to put 3 on the right way and then do one backwards...idiots...
they are deffinatly all on in the right direction just triple checked thats was my first thought. it also changes when you put the stock tires back on (dealer swapped with stock unit to make sure it was the tires) when they put my wheels and tires back on it pulls again and its beyond torque steer. it really wants to go left. badly.
they are deffinatly all on in the right direction just triple checked thats was my first thought. it also changes when you put the stock tires back on (dealer swapped with stock unit to make sure it was the tires) when they put my wheels and tires back on it pulls again and its beyond torque steer. it really wants to go left. badly.
With directional tires it can absolutely make a noticeable difference. And a lot of people are the same way - they figure you're paying people who know what they're doing to install tires. My best friend used to manage a Firestone and had a similar complaint from a customer. She took one look at the car, called the installer over to ask him what was wrong with his install job, he didn't know. She asked him why one of the directional tires was on backwards and he in all seriousness told her that "It don't matter cause tires don't go in certain directions, that all depends on what gear the transmission is in."
when you had your dealer check the tires by replacing with your old ones, and this steering problem went away, who put the new bridgestone's back on? the dealer or bridgestone? edit: also i know it sounds stupid, but check to make sure all 4 tires are exactly the same size.
mine does have the lsd. as far as the tires being put back on the dealer had an 09 white ss that they took wheels and tires off and installed on my. problem fixed. reinstalled my wheels with the bridgestones problem returned. i did not have this problem before tires were changed. dealer also checked wheels for run out on a hunter road force machine. none found.
swap the front tires and if it pulls to the right after the swap its the tires causing a radial pull if the car still pulls to the left it is the car. work at a tire shop deal with this problem everyday
Care to explain it and educate me? (road surface out of the equation)
This right here sounds like one side to me... unless you can magically swap axle shafts on the fly.
"TORQUE STEER
The steering veers or pulls to one side during hard acceleration. This is a common condition in front-wheel drive cars with unequal length driveshafts, and is caused by unequal toe changes as the suspension is loaded. Compliance allows the wheel with the longer driveshaft to experience less toe-in change than the wheel with the shorter driveshaft. This causes the vehicle to veer towards the side with the longer driveshaft. FWD cars with equal length driveshafts usually do not experience this condition."
This right here sounds like one side to me... unless you can magically swap axle shafts on the fly.
"TORQUE STEER
The steering veers or pulls to one side during hard acceleration. This is a common condition in front-wheel drive cars with unequal length driveshafts, and is caused by unequal toe changes as the suspension is loaded. Compliance allows the wheel with the longer driveshaft to experience less toe-in change than the wheel with the shorter driveshaft. This causes the vehicle to veer towards the side with the longer driveshaft. FWD cars with equal length driveshafts usually do not experience this condition."
Care to explain it and educate me? (road surface out of the equation)
This right here sounds like one side to me... unless you can magically swap axle shafts on the fly.
"TORQUE STEER
The steering veers or pulls to one side during hard acceleration. This is a common condition in front-wheel drive cars with unequal length driveshafts, and is caused by unequal toe changes as the suspension is loaded. Compliance allows the wheel with the longer driveshaft to experience less toe-in change than the wheel with the shorter driveshaft. This causes the vehicle to veer towards the side with the longer driveshaft. FWD cars with equal length driveshafts usually do not experience this condition."
This right here sounds like one side to me... unless you can magically swap axle shafts on the fly.
"TORQUE STEER
The steering veers or pulls to one side during hard acceleration. This is a common condition in front-wheel drive cars with unequal length driveshafts, and is caused by unequal toe changes as the suspension is loaded. Compliance allows the wheel with the longer driveshaft to experience less toe-in change than the wheel with the shorter driveshaft. This causes the vehicle to veer towards the side with the longer driveshaft. FWD cars with equal length driveshafts usually do not experience this condition."
They use an intermediate shaft I believe. Which isn't a 100% absolute cure but helps a lot.
IF... one shaft IS longer then the other... It's definitely, absolutely... the right. (Tranny is on the left which has been the case with any FWD I've seen)
Here is an in depth explanation. They also mention pulling to the RIGHT if you read it all and give many causes that could worsen it.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/torque_steer.htm
Now if I'm WRONG... I just want you to explain it to me then so I'm in the know.
There are other forces that can cause a left jerk. The only thing I could even conceive as changing that principle would be the LSD.
The OP is convinced it's not torque steer at work anyway. So this is all really trivial to the topic anyway.
IF... one shaft IS longer then the other... It's definitely, absolutely... the right. (Tranny is on the left which has been the case with any FWD I've seen)
Here is an in depth explanation. They also mention pulling to the RIGHT if you read it all and give many causes that could worsen it.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/torque_steer.htm
Now if I'm WRONG... I just want you to explain it to me then so I'm in the know.
There are other forces that can cause a left jerk. The only thing I could even conceive as changing that principle would be the LSD.
The OP is convinced it's not torque steer at work anyway. So this is all really trivial to the topic anyway.


