lol it's ok. I don't believe anyones numbers without dynos papers.

 

I feel ya there

 

Yep but it was my tune and the last time I dynoed mine vs his with the same tune mine made 4 whp more thn his but 4-5 less torque. Different cars different dynoes.

 

Which is my point. Each car is different. Im sure it will be close on yours but not the same as Blue's.

 

The craziest part is it is based solely on my street tuning. It just so happens to make a lot of power both in the real world and on the dyno. Ask "I am Broke" how fast his car is with my tune settings in it.

Yep I am sure the numbers will be a tad different. 3-4 whp and 3-4 wtrq probably.

 

Take a speedo shot then. Im curious how it compares to my 330whp car. Do a 70-130 and Ill do the same on my way home today

Edit: Or email me a log and Ill compare it to mine to check the times. Ill send mine to you as well.

 

I am broke has logged a few 60-120 or 70-130 pulls with my tune. If you want you can ask him the results.

 

I got his results, but we both know he can't run your real tune due to gas limitations. Same reason he couldn't run my actual tune on his car.

 

Yeah, I thought he was only running 91 anyways

 

Same amount of KR on both your tune and mine. 17* is just too much on his car. Even on my tune at 14* his 70-115 was still 1.2 to 1.5 seconds faster than he ran with your tune. Do you need anymore proof that mine makes that much more power :P My real tune is a tad faster as it will hold 17-18* with a realtively lean A/F. I have done plently of 60-100 pulls in 5 seconds flat. I did a 60-120 pull a few days ago it took ~8 seconds.

93 octane 10% ethanol. I run 93 octane 10% ethanol in my car as well.

 

Thats not what he wrote to me... And his setup is a bit different then my car and he didnt run it the same as on my car. He changed the PE and was running super lean on spike, so time lost there! I think it would be more fair to compare my tune on my car vs your tune on your car. Instead of comparing them on someone else's car that Ive never even seen.

Just send me a recent log and I will compare it. What do you have to hide??

 

He used the same MAF tables for his Hahn intake so if it spiked lean it would do it with my DALs, timing, PE in his car as well. I dont have anything to hide, but you are in far cooler denser air than me right now. It is almost 80* right now here in Florida. You also have a pill in yours so it SHOULD make a tad more low end in your car. His car has the pill just like yours. He has almost the same mods as you except for the intake. His car hauls with my tune. Actually it seems to me that it is more fair to compare two different tunes ( same MAF tables, just different DALs, timing, PE) on the same car. I believe most people would agree on that.

 

I do have the pill, but I didnt even make 330whp, which is exactly my point here. If youre making 360whp at 22psi, the pill shouldnt matter. Especially since your wtq number is just below what Im making. Your better top end should shine from a high speed roll.

And he spiked lean because he was trying to command .89 while spiking 25psi. I found I need to command .86 to actually make it .88-.89. Which is what I explained in an email to him with the file, to leave it. He tried without it and sure enough saw way lean. Ill take a vid even if you dont want to send a log.

Edit: If he sent me logs and let me fine tune my tune on his car, then compare, I would say thats fair. But to just flash mine, drive it once and compare is not. Especially when you guys tuned his car back and forth.

Man did we just Hijack this thread too lol



Sorry!!!

 

Point being it would still spike lean on my tune as well. So time lost with my tune as well so it is pointless to argue that. It is best to fix the MAF correction table to allow for the additional airflow in that case rather than raping the PE table like that.

 

My STFT's are ON. The PE doesnt react fast enough for the spike, so going slightly richer gets me the AFR Im looking for.

 

The STFT is not fast enough to react like that. You just have to have the MAF correction and calibration tables dialed in to get rid ot that lean or in my case rich then lean spike.

He did all the MAF tuning for the intake he has by himself. I did not help him at all with that. I sent him an exact copy of the tune I was running in my car complete with a MAF correction and calibration table for the stock airbox with a K&N in there. He gets 3* of knock on my tune sometimes even if he runs my 91 octane timing tables so the gasoline out there stinks. 14* should not knock ever on 93 octane.

 

Yea, I agree with that! 14* is not crazy timing and anyone SHOULD be able to run that on a stock car even!

I hope you dont take our convo's as a fight. I like our lil debates


I need to get to a dyno and see what this latest tune is putting down. It def feels stronger then when I put down the 322/391. If it puts down 340whp I would be shocked. I still want to see a plot of the 363

 

WOW i had this posted for a week and only two comments then Bam 4 pages lol i got video of me at the dyno i only got two passes recored because my friend who was recordin thought he was recording my third pass and he didnt. friends that dont know how to use camera FTL. on my first run i got 317whp second 323whp third 330whp and the tuning shop didnt have a printer so they put it on my sd card so i well post later the graph of the 330whp but here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMkR0UtkacI

im at 23psi i was tuned by superman on here

 

So after everything I'm readijng Dyno sheets are pointless. No one believes you anyway so why go get one?? Who knows what these cars are capable they are still new. it seems to me with the ammount of time you two (term&BYT) spend on tuning and getting your indivigual cars almost perfict tune you should have some crazy numbers.

As for Term and BYT... you two should be compiling compiling knowledge together and SHOULD be known as master HPTuners. So what is the deal, where and how can i find an exactly what WHP I have?

 

i tuned his car and im not done with his car yet he is trapping 111mph at the track and im sure i can get him up to 115+. i have one guy that just had full exhaust and when i tuned his car he ran a balt with upgraded intercooler,charge pipe and infiniboost and pulled him by a car

 

I would have no problem sending him my file if he sent me his and then we could compare the differences and come up with a killer map. On HPT we have done something similar with cam timing, I went and tried them on the dyno and reported back. Im def not the kind of person that is out for #1 only, as you should be able to tell by the fact I post everything in my guides I make. I am no threat to his tuning business as I am over 1000 miles away, if you're interested Term lemme know man!

Edit: My last dyno was 322/391, it is posted in the Dyno Thread on here. I haven't been back since unlocking some more top end tho, so I feel I "should" be around 330whp now.

 

are you on the pill mod?

 

Yup.

 

No sweat. Hopefully Matt gets the graphs soon. No pill for me or him. Hopefully HP Tuners will have more goodies for us soon.

 

i want more goodies from hpt