My "Buy a LNF they said..." Problem/Build Thread.
#329
Senior Member
The lean idle could still be the maf not seeing airflow at idle. I have around 30% added at idle but it may not be enough yet. Send another log over.
#330
Sending now.
With properly installed spark plugs the trims are better.
The knock went way down, but I'm still getting some. Going over the motor I see the Hahn intake is resting against the frame of the car. Could be making some metal on metal noise the sensor is hearing. I'm going to line the hole it goes through with silicone tuning and see if that was the problem. I also need to address the heat shield which could be another cause.
With properly installed spark plugs the trims are better.
The knock went way down, but I'm still getting some. Going over the motor I see the Hahn intake is resting against the frame of the car. Could be making some metal on metal noise the sensor is hearing. I'm going to line the hole it goes through with silicone tuning and see if that was the problem. I also need to address the heat shield which could be another cause.
#331
Senior Member
Sending now.
With properly installed spark plugs the trims are better.
The knock went way down, but I'm still getting some. Going over the motor I see the Hahn intake is resting against the frame of the car. Could be making some metal on metal noise the sensor is hearing. I'm going to line the hole it goes through with silicone tuning and see if that was the problem. I also need to address the heat shield which could be another cause.
With properly installed spark plugs the trims are better.
The knock went way down, but I'm still getting some. Going over the motor I see the Hahn intake is resting against the frame of the car. Could be making some metal on metal noise the sensor is hearing. I'm going to line the hole it goes through with silicone tuning and see if that was the problem. I also need to address the heat shield which could be another cause.
#333
Senior Member
Sending now.
With properly installed spark plugs the trims are better.
The knock went way down, but I'm still getting some. Going over the motor I see the Hahn intake is resting against the frame of the car. Could be making some metal on metal noise the sensor is hearing. I'm going to line the hole it goes through with silicone tuning and see if that was the problem. I also need to address the heat shield which could be another cause.
With properly installed spark plugs the trims are better.
The knock went way down, but I'm still getting some. Going over the motor I see the Hahn intake is resting against the frame of the car. Could be making some metal on metal noise the sensor is hearing. I'm going to line the hole it goes through with silicone tuning and see if that was the problem. I also need to address the heat shield which could be another cause.
#335
Senior Member
#337
So the common thought is that the random MAF fail is being cause by turbulence. Would inserting something like this in front of the MAF be a good idea?
Would it cause any issues under boost?
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HoneyComb MAF Mass Air Meter Airflow Straightener. These small additions to any cold air intake, turbo inlet pipe or anywhere a MAF sensor is located, will greatly improve the MAF readings fuel trims that the ECU sees. No more erratic MAF readings, fix lean or rich spikes, increase throttle response, fix idle, all of these can be improved with this small upgrade!
Would it cause any issues under boost?
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HoneyComb MAF Mass Air Meter Airflow Straightener. These small additions to any cold air intake, turbo inlet pipe or anywhere a MAF sensor is located, will greatly improve the MAF readings fuel trims that the ECU sees. No more erratic MAF readings, fix lean or rich spikes, increase throttle response, fix idle, all of these can be improved with this small upgrade!
#338
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
It wouldn't cause any issue, just the trouble with getting it to stay pre maf. I forget if there is enough space for one of those to fit and leave some space in front of the maf on the cold side. You could always just go speed density and say to hell with the maf
#340
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
Just use some slower setting epoxy. But if you're maf is just randomly jumping a lot of hz in a short frame then the air straightener will do little to nothing to fix your issue. It almost seems like there is a short or a ground issue with the sensor.
The quick and dirty LNF speed density just goes off the MAF base tables (basically a VE table on the LNF someone correct me if I understand this incorrectly) which says for a given load and rpm the air is X.X% different then the hidden table we can't change (i would assume an actual VE table) and adds fuel correctly for that amount of air. I'm not sure if Term does those, I'm kind of cautious about them since its difficult to do a real speed density and also VE tables start to fail at higher air flows when MAF's generally work great.
The quick and dirty LNF speed density just goes off the MAF base tables (basically a VE table on the LNF someone correct me if I understand this incorrectly) which says for a given load and rpm the air is X.X% different then the hidden table we can't change (i would assume an actual VE table) and adds fuel correctly for that amount of air. I'm not sure if Term does those, I'm kind of cautious about them since its difficult to do a real speed density and also VE tables start to fail at higher air flows when MAF's generally work great.
#341
That is what it does. No idea why either. It is on the stock connector and I opened up the loom and traced the wires; they are fine.
Hmmmmm. I wonder is it is a voltage issue on the car now that you mentioned that. I am going to have the battery and alternator tested.
My next thought is that maybe I should pigtail a frame ground from the ground wire on the MAF connector.
Hmmmmm. I wonder is it is a voltage issue on the car now that you mentioned that. I am going to have the battery and alternator tested.
My next thought is that maybe I should pigtail a frame ground from the ground wire on the MAF connector.
#345
I have a bunch of 4 gauge KnuKonceptz gold wire and terminals. I am going to have the battery and alt tested after work and then add some ground points this evening.
#347
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
There is also one under the oil cooler. It will be a stud instead of a bolt like the others. That is G105 in the picture below.
I had an intermittent erratic MAF signal a few years ago. It ended up being a break in the signal wire (yellow). The insulation wasn't damaged at all, so it took a bit to find where it was. As the problem got worse, the MAF frequency would sometimes go up to ~63,000Hz (or whatever the maximum is). Watch the frequency on HPT and unplug the MAF and you will see what I'm talking about. Key on engine off. This could potentially help you locate a harness issue. If you see the frequency jump around while you're moving the wiring then you know something is wrong.
If not, I would suspect an issue with the tune. I haven't read this entire thread, but is there something preventing you from putting the MAF back in the intake?
I had an intermittent erratic MAF signal a few years ago. It ended up being a break in the signal wire (yellow). The insulation wasn't damaged at all, so it took a bit to find where it was. As the problem got worse, the MAF frequency would sometimes go up to ~63,000Hz (or whatever the maximum is). Watch the frequency on HPT and unplug the MAF and you will see what I'm talking about. Key on engine off. This could potentially help you locate a harness issue. If you see the frequency jump around while you're moving the wiring then you know something is wrong.
If not, I would suspect an issue with the tune. I haven't read this entire thread, but is there something preventing you from putting the MAF back in the intake?
#350
There is also one under the oil cooler. It will be a stud instead of a bolt like the others. That is G105 in the picture below.
I had an intermittent erratic MAF signal a few years ago. It ended up being a break in the signal wire (yellow). The insulation wasn't damaged at all, so it took a bit to find where it was. As the problem got worse, the MAF frequency would sometimes go up to ~63,000Hz (or whatever the maximum is). Watch the frequency on HPT and unplug the MAF and you will see what I'm talking about. Key on engine off. This could potentially help you locate a harness issue. If you see the frequency jump around while you're moving the wiring then you know something is wrong.
If not, I would suspect an issue with the tune. I haven't read this entire thread, but is there something preventing you from putting the MAF back in the intake?
I had an intermittent erratic MAF signal a few years ago. It ended up being a break in the signal wire (yellow). The insulation wasn't damaged at all, so it took a bit to find where it was. As the problem got worse, the MAF frequency would sometimes go up to ~63,000Hz (or whatever the maximum is). Watch the frequency on HPT and unplug the MAF and you will see what I'm talking about. Key on engine off. This could potentially help you locate a harness issue. If you see the frequency jump around while you're moving the wiring then you know something is wrong.
If not, I would suspect an issue with the tune. I haven't read this entire thread, but is there something preventing you from putting the MAF back in the intake?