northvibe

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hahah I refinanced an my bank said min is worth 19k... HAHAHAH No one would pay near that much. 2009, 25k miles, never seen snow, barely rain.

northvibe

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WOW.
There are plenty of fast ones. There aren't even that many 400whp+ lnfs...jesus.

You must not drive right or not own a lnf. I had torq steer stock and now with gmstage 1 its pretty bad.

TheTruth7

Hmm not drive right? Good one.. It cost no more then 800 bucks to get 320 whp on a LNF. Dont feed me crap saying u can do the same for a Mazda.

thedubsack85

No matter how much or little into an LNF it has torque steer as does just about ANY high HP/TQ Fwd car except the focus RS with the revo knuckle which is designed to counter act Tq steer! If it did not Tq steer you could WOT any gear at any mph and not touch the steering wheel and it would track straight Which does NOT happen! as far as 320 WHP off 800 ive seen it close/hit that mark for less! I can say i do love the short action of the clutch when WOT in the speed 3. Had a few sales men demonstrate it in which it took hardly any clutch pedal movement to get to the next gear! WAs pretty slick IMHO!

TheTruth7

Good Job.

northvibe

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Considering you are the ONLY person ever to never have torq steer...You are either driving a base model, or have magic transmission...maybe even a magical awd cobalt ss concept!?!?!

320whp on a ms3? easy, same as lnf, tune, intake, downpipe. How is that hard?

WickedSS2005

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Then you haven't ran one on E85. That puts the Speed mid-high 300's hp and high 300's - low 400trq. My conservatively self tuned Speed (leaned afr, maf cal, stock timing, 17psi) pulls on my roommates trifecta tuned LNF. And there isn't a trq steer problem, just whiney bitches.

Again, w/e. I owned a high hp TVS cobalt. Been around since before there was more than just an intake for the LSJ. The Speed wins in my book

northvibe

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All the douches that hate on the ms3....have never owned one. Butt hurt about it I guess, figures

TheTruth7

Congrats on E85 you need to get that extra power. Pump gas I make your power. Magic transmission & butt hurt, once again good one. Ive ran tuned speeds with full bolt ons, and they are not that fast... Sorry it's just what ive seen in experience.

BlackLsCoupe

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hey to let yall know, just got one in at my dealer i work for. its awsome. hooks way better that the cobalt hardly any wheel spin in 1st and it could easly be a 13sec car. the recaro seats omg way better than the TC's. shifter is smooth, only thing i dont like is the dam center arm rest. im short so my arms being pushed up by it and interfers with my shifting. has a sport mode didnt read up on what it does. and didnt look to see if it has ford apps like the mustangs track time app. would recomend getting one limited made and few dealers can get them. my dealer is only allowed 2 per year.

oh and i think it runs on regular like all the other ecoboost do. no where did i find it saying mid grade or premium fuel

shroogis

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You're forgetting fuel pump internals

AaronJ

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Idk if this has been posted in here yet or not, but the Focus ST has an overboost function which is the only way its getting its 252 hp, 270 tq stock. Here is the excerpt from the Autoblog review:

"Peak torque arrives early at just 2,500 rpm, and a special turbo overboost function means that you can ride that wave all the way between 3,000 rpm to 4,500 rpm for up to 15 seconds, after which time the ECU dials back pressure in the interest of self-preservation."

I guess that explains why its a full second slower 0-60 than the SS/TC was stock.

user 72239

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This. They are weak above 350 hp and need fuel pump internals. no thanks

shroogis

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And because it weighs as much as an HHR SS. 3250lbs. 300 more than a SS/TC.

AaronJ

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I was just going to type up this too. To those who think a 320 whp MS3 is going to hang with a 320 whp SS/TC, they are crazy. The MS3 weighs around 300 lbs more, 10% more, than an SS/TC. So in order for an MS3 to keep up with a 320 whp SS/TC, the MS3 will need to put down 350 whp to compensate for its weight.

TheTruth7

Thanks for the back up fellas. People are idiots.

shroogis

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Both the Focus ST and MS3 are 3200lbs +.

The MS3 is also known for bending rods if you go WOT under 3k. Not a problem you want to have.

WickedSS2005

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Congrats on winning 1 Internet???

I've been around this place a lot longer than you, I know full well what the cobalt is capable of. Owned two. Roommate has one. Get a bigger turbo that isn't out of it's efficiency range, then talk like you have big *****. Only stock turbo LNF around SW ohio that I couldn't outrun in my LSJ was on E85.

Cobb AP, on sale, $475. SRI intake/inlet pipe, $125. HPFP Internals, $300. $900 and can make 350hp, 400tq with a gutted cat. Seems pretty inexpensive to me.

Got that right. Or delusional


On the scale, full tank, mine weighs in at 3236. Add 180 for me

In 5th/6th gear, who goes WOT in those gears that low

Obviously you don't know me, seeing as your still a toddler on the forums w/ a join date of 2010. I'll take it easy on you. Most of CSS's members are idiots from my many years of experience as an OG member here. LMAO. I've been saying this since the LNF came about.

My car is not about being blistering fast. It handles DAMN well and looks sexy doing it while having four doors. That's what I bought it for. I'm not trying to persuade you. I'm just showing you you're plain wrong on your "facts". Until you know your facts, no one will take what you say seriously.


Seeing as this thread is about the Focus ST, maybe that should be what's discussed instead of OMG LNF OWNS ALL!!!!1111!!1

TheTruth7

Yep I don't know you. And I don't care to since you think Mazdaspeeds are a better FWD car. Who gives a crap when I joined. Congrats you owned 2 cobalts and went to a slower car. If I wanted to get something sexy with 4 doors that handles fine, I would just get a damn evo. You make 289 whp? Sounds exhilarating..

Oh and Mazdaspeeds sexy.....?
LMAO

WickedSS2005

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Never said one was better. I simply added data from an owner instead of speculation. Seeing as I've only ever put three revisions on my tune and this being a completely different tuning animal, the gains I've made are damn good, +49hp +68tq. I still have yet to really add much from the turbo. Most LNF cars run 22+ psi and timing bumped up. Same turbo as the Speed, hair bigger wheel, .3L displacement difference. I'm running 17psi and 9° timing. Are you still with me? I'm not throwing out too technical of info for you am I? But I think it's safe to say you don't know jack about how to tune

TheTruth7

Thanks for the useless information. I never talked about tuning one. But thanks.

AaronJ

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So wait... if its that easy to hit 350 hp on a MS3, then why do you only have 289 hp?

The Cobb tuned MS3s around here soot like a diesel. I'm sure its just a canned tune, but they can't be making that much power running that rich.

serega12

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umm... how about the price difference between the two (mazdaspeed3 and cobalt ss/tc) of the same year? 2008 Cobalt SS/TC in Seattle/Portland area with 40-60K miles is about $12-13K... Mazdaspeed3 of the same year and comparable mileage I couldn't find for any less than $16-17K... You can buy/build a quicker cobalt and still stay under $15K. Just sayin... that "make it faster for $800" has to be added to the purchase price...

And before you give me the "you have only been on the forum a few weeks", that's the CSS forum, since I only bought one a few weeks ago. Been on other ones for a few years.

Anyways, great discussion! Let's keep it friendly.

WickedSS2005

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Look at my sig. I have only an intake and tune. I mentioned having a gutted cat (or catless dp) and HPFP internals. Swap that to E85 and there you go. The pump that I used for my E85 for my Cobalt got bought out by Speedway and they are getting rid of E for now... So, there goes my source. Cobb tunes do run very rich unless customized

WickedSS2005

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You found one of my other reasons for going to the Mazda. They hold value VERY well. My '05 cobalt w/ 48k miles was only valued at $10k in '09... That blew my mind, so I kept it til I died (didn't take long LMAO). Not everyone cares about resale, I on the other hand do. New MSRP on either car was only off by a little. New MSRP on Cobalts averaged $24.9 and the Speed was the same in 2010. I was able to find my '10 Speed w/ 21k for $18.9

TheTruth failed to be able to convey that he realized I had a cobalt before the MS3. You read things, so no worries there.