No Real Proof Of Lnf
when you first log on to cobaltss.net at the bottom there is a place to read about the end of the supercharged ss. new emissions regulations being the key factor for scrapping the car. this release of info is a few months after the sae approved test. so what if you found the test results. is the ss car even listed on chevys site for 08? no! i see the HHR SS but no Cobalt SS. i,d love to be proved wrong, because i want to see a LNF car as well.
i looked at emissions information for all upcoming gm 08 models that was provided and the date is august 1. maybe the LNF Cobalt just wasn't removed from the info???????? |
Originally Posted by jrod
(Post 1601928)
when you first log on to cobaltss.net at the bottom there is a place to read about the end of the supercharged ss. new emissions regulations being the key factor for scrapping the car. this release of info is a few months after the sae approved test. so what if you found the test results. is the ss car even listed on chevys site for 08? no! i see the HHR SS but no Cobalt SS. i,d love to be proved wrong, because i want to see a LNF car as well.
i looked at emissions information for all upcoming gm 08 models that was provided and the date is august 1. maybe the LNF Cobalt just wasn't removed from the info???????? |
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-10-ss-turbocharged-general-discussion-152/more-turbo-lnf-cobalt-proof-emissions-info-gm-com-81636/
Look under Chevrolet Cobalt 2.0 LNF |
that was the point of my post. they should rewrite the lnf proof story on the main page to say that gm did at one time consider and test.
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Well they have only officially released the hhr ss for about a month now...
And this is supposed to be a mid-year car, so that would explain the lack of info on the GM site. Wait a few more weeks and see what other info pops up ;) |
the new emissions regulations for 08's smaller class cars for the up coming year is what did kill it. we know that , but do you guys think gm will redesign/retune the LNF just specifically for the ss after saying the company deemed it not worth the cost/time. lets wait...
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Originally Posted by jrod
(Post 1601958)
the new emissions regulations for 08's smaller class cars for the up coming year is what did kill it. we know that , but do you guys think gm will redesign/retune the LNF just specifically for the ss after saying the company deemed it not worth the cost/time. lets wait...
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why did gm release info saying just that? this isn't spam because i question something that is headline news on this beloved forum. lets wait... open to more retort from impatient kids that are "possibly" in denile!
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I didnt say this thread was spam, i said going into other threads that are asking about the LNF in general and spouting off that it may not be in the cobalt was spam
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also the ss/sc died because eaton's supercharger contract was expired
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Originally Posted by jrod
(Post 1602045)
why did gm release info saying just that? this isn't spam because i question something that is headline news on this beloved forum. lets wait... open to more retort from impatient kids that are "possibly" in denile!
You mentioned two things: 1) Emissions killed off the SS - which is true ONLY for the supercharged version. A turbo is more emissions friendly and it's not uncommon to see cars make the switch for that very reason. Closest example is the Mini Cooper S. They were supercharged through 2006, in 2007 they switched to turbo in anticipation of meeting the new emissions guidelines. 2) You talk about them saying that putting the LNF into the Cobalt would not be worth the time and effort. Well the HHR SS blew that argument right out the window. They took the LNF, converted it to FWD, put it in the EXACT SAME chassis that's on the Cobalt. It would be very much worth their time and effort now that they have the same engine sitting on the same chassis to release it in both the HHR SS and the Cobalt SS. So I don't think either of those points are valid enough reasons to say that it couldn't happen. Honestly, if they took the R&D money and time to convert it for the HHR, they'd be incredibly stupid to not make the most out of it and toss it in the Cobalt as well. They'd retain their footing in the tuner circle with not one but two entries. |
Originally Posted by alleycat58
(Post 1602061)
So I don't think either of those points are valid enough reasons to say that it couldn't happen. Honestly, if they took the R&D money and time to convert it for the HHR, they'd be incredibly stupid to not make the most out of it and toss it in the Cobalt as well. They'd retain their footing in the tuner circle with not one but two entries.
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sorry to spout off in your thread sir. your threads will "reighn" supreme. you guys are toootaly right. i'm sure its all 100% going to happen. ohhh ppppplease don't ban me. i hate
to not have web friends with awsome 16 year old masterbatn lord of the rings style names like "dragooon slayer". to everyone else that wasted there time reading this SORRY |
Originally Posted by jrod
(Post 1602094)
sorry to spout off in your thread sir. your threads will "reighn" supreme. you guys are toootaly right. i'm sure its all 100% going to happen. ohhh ppppplease don't ban me. i hate
to not have web friends with awsome 16 year old masterbatn lord of the rings style names like "dragooon slayer". to everyone else that wasted there time reading this SORRY if it didn't bother you, you wouldn't have brought it up. it's ok, you'll find some friends one day! :twothumbs |
Originally Posted by jrod
(Post 1602094)
to not have web friends with awsome 16 year old masterbatn lord of the rings style names like "dragooon slayer". to everyone else that wasted there time reading this SORRY
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GM is making an announcement on Oct. 29th just prior to SEMA, which they say will "make the tuner crowd very happy"
I expect the official announcement is only 4 days away. |
Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
(Post 1602134)
GM is making an announcement on Oct. 29th just prior to SEMA, which they say will "make the tuner crowd very happy"
I expect the official announcement is only 4 days away. |
Originally Posted by alleycat58
(Post 1602061)
Saying what?
You mentioned two things: 1) Emissions killed off the SS - which is true ONLY for the supercharged version. A turbo is more emissions friendly and it's not uncommon to see cars make the switch for that very reason. Closest example is the Mini Cooper S. They were supercharged through 2006, in 2007 they switched to turbo in anticipation of meeting the new emissions guidelines. 2) You talk about them saying that putting the LNF into the Cobalt would not be worth the time and effort. Well the HHR SS blew that argument right out the window. They took the LNF, converted it to FWD, put it in the EXACT SAME chassis that's on the Cobalt. It would be very much worth their time and effort now that they have the same engine sitting on the same chassis to release it in both the HHR SS and the Cobalt SS. So I don't think either of those points are valid enough reasons to say that it couldn't happen. Honestly, if they took the R&D money and time to convert it for the HHR, they'd be incredibly stupid to not make the most out of it and toss it in the Cobalt as well. They'd retain their footing in the tuner circle with not one but two entries. |
Originally Posted by alleycat58
(Post 1602130)
LMAO the fact the LOTR is the first thing that comes to your mind amuses me. :lol: Says more about you than it does about me, since 90% of the people here know what it REALLY refers to.
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Originally Posted by tim.t
(Post 1602145)
[off-topic] Why is it that I'm so aroused when a woman is so knowledgeable about cars, and can debate logically and rationally? [/off-topic] :lol: Gear head chicks rock. :lol:
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PM received :twothumbs:
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
(Post 1602100)
if it didn't bother you, you wouldn't have brought it up. it's ok, you'll find some friends one day! :twothumbs
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not really on topic but
HHR SS = Caliber SRT-4 I never put it together before... |
Originally Posted by jrod
(Post 1602094)
sorry to spout off in your thread sir. your threads will "reighn" supreme. you guys are toootaly right. i'm sure its all 100% going to happen. ohhh ppppplease don't ban me. i hate
to not have web friends with awsome 16 year old masterbatn lord of the rings style names like "dragooon slayer". to everyone else that wasted there time reading this SORRY |
Originally Posted by alleycat58
(Post 1602061)
So I don't think either of those points are valid enough reasons to say that it couldn't happen. Honestly, if they took the R&D money and time to convert it for the HHR, they'd be incredibly stupid to not make the most out of it and toss it in the Cobalt as well. They'd retain their footing in the tuner circle with not one but two entries.
I guess now is as good a time as any.... a month or so ago I talked to the engineer who was incharge of the ECU design for the LSJ and LNF engines (and others). (About 5 years ago he used to work for the company I currently work for.) Anyways, out of curiosity I asked him what would replace the LSJ in the Cobalt... he plainly said "The Turbo 2.0L that powers the Solstice GXP." I couldn't have cared at the time, being that I like my SC, and already had the car.... just thought it was relevant now. |
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