Do they brakes rust up real fast when they get wet.... Everytime i brake in the rain they don't work very well for a few seconds then they grab outta now where.

 

1. all brakes rust with rain/damp/dew if left outside
2. if they are not heated up and its wet out yes they wont bite as much.
3. I have tried braking in the rain and dont have a problem...but I have heard a someone else complain about this same issue. Are you driving in a pool?

 

I have the issue at highway speeds all the time. I believe a film of water builds up on the rotors and until the pads cut through it, brakes are ineffective.

Noticed this problem on all the Cavi's, Sunfires, G5's & Cobalts I've owned over the last 15 years. I suspect slotted rotors would help but they would also increase pad wear.

 

perfomance > wear ?? how do you guys brake? just pushing as hard as you can every time? do you ease into it? I seriously tested this and I do not have this issue..

 

In really heavy rain your rotors WILL get coated in water, eliminating braking altogether for the first little bit of pedal application. Irrespective of how hard you press, you just get nothing. The first time is scary as ****.

Once you know the issue is there, you just lightly tap the pedal to scrub the brakes periodically.

 

Its scary when im pressing the brake and not getting much response from it... Then its like bam it grabs. hard Yea but it only does that when its pretty wet out.

I don't recall having this problem with any one vehicle so it must be something to do with the brembos

 

I notice this ONLY if the brakes have gotten wet. (Big ass puddle or car wash) Otherwise they work fine. If they've been sitting overnight during wet weather they are rusted and therefore very rough and noisy for the first stop or so which is normal... or at least extremely common.

By the way, I suspected that the brakes didn't feel quite right. (A little too much pedal travel). So me and a friend bled the brakes. There was a huge ass air bubble in the front passenger side caliper. It was in the outside bleeder. There are two per caliper in the front.

 

im not talking over night im talking just regular driving stop and go... I don't even have to go through a big puddle it just has to be very wet outside.

 

I agree, we just havent gotten "heavy" rain yet. I tested it in a light rain and threw a puddle but the way I drive I apply light pressure to heat them up some then bam stand on the brakes if I want to brake hard. You must learn how to drive in different conditions so you wont be freaked out the first time something like this happens.

 

Yea, was me, we had a whole debate about the ghey ass brakes on the SS. After much debate, I did take some advice and made a Driver Mod. Drag the brakes occasionally in the rain a lil to clear them off and keep them warm, seems to have helped! But def those first couple times it happens you grab the wheel hard! LOL!

 

you must be a new driver lol.

The brakes on your car are pretty darn good actually. All brakes rust up, drive 5 seconds and its gone.

When its raining your first stop of the night shouldnt be from 80-0MPH in 2 seconds lol. The way a brake pad and rotor interact needs for them to be warm.

 

^Says that guy that DOESN'T have them...

 

 

warm like apple pie

 

When its raining or after a wet moring, It happens to me..i just take it easy engine brake to avoide using brakes. When u really need to use them to get them a bit warm and get that rain film off the rotors just ease on the brakes use them slightly everynow and then at say stop lights, stop signs then they should be just fine. Or you can just get Slotted and dimpled/drilled rotors =], But then you have to worry about increased pad ware. If your not mario Andretti on them thought that shouldnt be too big of an issue..

 

Uhhh...it's raining what do you expect? Drive more carefully...allow more time to stop...

 

You're totally missing the point here....

 

I notice it really bad too . Scary as hell at times. Never ready for it when it happens.

 

Well then explain your point a little...I mean I don't think that I've ever driven a car in the rain where I was like "Damn this thing is awesome under braking in the rain." Brakes pads and rotors get wet and so when you push the brakes...there's a bit of delay between the brakes getting through the slippery stuff (water) and creating enough friction to stop the car...what other point could there be?

 

o i remember the first time i learnt about my breakes in the rain lol...

 

ive driven many cars and ive never noticed a difference between braking in wet or dry weather until i got this car.

 

It's not just a delay though. It softness the whole time braking.

 

I drive A LOT...and mainly highway to and from work...I've never noticed anything different between any of the 4 cars I've owned in the past year and a half working there (Ranger, Eclipse GSX, Blazer, and this)...even my mom's eclipse and my dad's 300c...no difference...just normal cautious braking in the rain.

 

Im not even talking about softness. Im talking about when you initially press the pedal, if you havent kept the brakes warm, there is a 1-2 second period where NOTHING happens when you press the pedal. You can be going 25 and just about to slow down for a stop, and nothing! Has nothing to do with how you drive other then you haven't taken your own precautions to drag the brakes. Ive been driving for 12 years now and owned dozens of cars. This is the first car Ive ever had that did this.

 

Anyone I have spoken too has not had this issue. I could pour water on my SRT-4's brakes (ran it through many carwashes) and no braking problems at all. My uncles 300C SRT-8 has no issues either. My buddies Civic Si, no issues. Any other performance car forum (Supra, 300ZX, M3, Mazdaspeed3) nobody has this issue this bad or even at all in my experience. If you think it's normal than clearly you need more research into braking. GM's rotors are and always will be like there tire choices.....Horse ****. Go buy EBC pads and rotors or something non GM in that area. Never heard of a problem with those. And on my SS it happens every two seconds in heavy rain. No matter how hard I stop, and it's all well and good to say oh, easy on the brakes, driver mod, push them down every few minutes lightly to fix em....I paid for a performance car, therefore I shouldn't have to dick around with it nor should I have to worry about braking in the rain. The MS3 never has this issue and it also brakes quicker than the SS. It's GM's brake choice. Good but not the best, like the Conti's. When I swap brakes out i'll let you know how it goes.


You aren't alone and it isn't your driving that needs modifying. GM's engineers need a bit of modifying in this area. The SS is an amazing car in many aspects, but one of the most important safety areas and they overlook it. I can tell you from test driving the MS3 on a day when it happened to **** rain.....Nothing. Take it from me, it's GM's **** up not yours and you paid for the product therefore it should work. No driver mod should be needed in a car of this caliber. Period.