Powell Oil separator/PCV relocate
Anyone running a Powell oil separator that cleaned their valves and has an idea of what they look like now? I'm about to pick one of these up and I'm definitely interested in long time users. And how to plumb it? I haven't seen the whole kit just most of it but until I disassemble the packaging and see everything I'm just trying to get an idea of how complicated it is. Thanks!
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Which kit are you getting v2 or v3
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Originally Posted by zeeky420
Which kit are you getting v2 or v3
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It's easy, I'm sure the guy you're getting it from can send you the install info.
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
It's easy, I'm sure the guy you're getting it from can send you the install info.
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If not Powell will be your best bet I'm sure he has instructions
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Originally Posted by Snail_SS
If not Powell will be your best bet I'm sure he has instructions
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Maybe colodude can give you a hand
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Colodude could take pics if he car wasn't at the shop. I'll try to remember to get some pics for you of my v2 setup and I'll point to where the intake pcv line ties into the system
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Thanks everyone for the help. This is why I go here instead of FB groups :)
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
Colodude could take pics if he car wasn't at the shop. I'll try to remember to get some pics for you of my v2 setup and I'll point to where the intake pcv line ties into the system
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Originally Posted by ThePanduuh
Thanks everyone for the help. This is why I go here instead of FB groups :)
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Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS
(Post 7642651)
His car is at the shop a lot........
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Shame a $20 oil line caused all that. It's usually the little things that bite you.
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I found colodude18 on FB and messaged him and he sent me a video of the routing! I remembered seeing his OZ Ultraleggras for sale here and FB and made the connection. Thanks all, still interested in long term users feedback :)
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Originally Posted by ThePanduuh
(Post 7642613)
Anyone running a Powell oil separator that cleaned their valves and has an idea of what they look like now? I'm about to pick one of these up and I'm definitely interested in long time users. And how to plumb it? I haven't seen the whole kit just most of it but until I disassemble the packaging and see everything I'm just trying to get an idea of how complicated it is. Thanks!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...e3ac9f6f5a.jpg k ill explain. the intake manifold line goes to the bottom port on separator via the supplied tee. the other end of the tee goes to the port on the valve cover that is on the passenger side. the stock port will have to be removed and it will have to be tapped 1/8 npt. use grease on the tap so that the shavings don't fall into the cover. best way I found to get stock fitting out is grab it with vice grip and hit vice grip with a hammer while holding on to it of course. the top port of the separator goes to the port on the turbo. and obviously the port on the bottom of the separator will go to the new dipstick fitting. |
Originally Posted by tomj77
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...e3ac9f6f5a.jpg
k ill explain. the intake manifold line goes to the bottom port on separator via the supplied tee. the other end of the tee goes to the port on the valve cover that is on the passenger side. the stock port will have to be removed and it will have to be tapped 1/8 npt. use grease on the tap so that the shavings don't fall into the cover. best way I found to get stock fitting out is grab it with vice grip and hit vice grip with a hammer while holding on to it of course. the top port of the separator goes to the port on the turbo. and obviously the port on the bottom of the separator will go to the new dipstick fitting. |
Originally Posted by ThePanduuh
(Post 7642680)
So I need to tap the valve cover? This is the first I'm hearing of this.
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Originally Posted by heeter_33
Ya the separator uses a screw in line to the valve cover.
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I see the vacuum line now. Looked at the valve cover more. So once you get that braided line off, do you tap just inside it or do I have to cut it and then tap it?
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You just tap the hole.....
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
You just tap the hole.....
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You don't have to take it off to tap if you want to save yourself from work. I didn't, but I'm scared there's shavings from doing it that way.
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Originally Posted by heeter_33
You don't have to take it off to tap if you want to save yourself from work. I didn't, but I'm scared there's shavings from doing it that way.
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Originally Posted by ThePanduuh
(Post 7642712)
After looking at the VC more I saw that I might just have to tap it and that's it. Thanks. Going to paint the VC while it's off for tapping.
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Originally Posted by tomj77
(Post 7642819)
Why did u take it off to tap it? No need, just use grease on the tap, even if u do take it off u can't get shavings out from the backside if they fall in, they are in there for good. U screw the 1/8 npt to an6 fitting in the tapped hole. Use liquid Teflon or some kinda dealer on the fitting threads
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Originally Posted by ThePanduuh
(Post 7642820)
i'm not doing anything yet. This is all getting my research done so when i take it apart to blast my valves and install it i'll take the VC off, scotch brite it, paint it, and tap it. getting all the things i need to do straight before i do anything so i dont get caught up in the procedure.
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Originally Posted by tomj77
if ur gonna paint the valve cover, make sure u use a metal etching primer for best results.
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Duplicolor will stick. It sticks to almost anything.
Professional paint shops will use some sort of direct to metal primer. It chemically bites into the metal. |
Originally Posted by ThePanduuh
(Post 7642822)
Powell didn't mention that. Just said duplicolor and scotch brite to scuff it
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Originally Posted by tomj77
He told me to use it so I'm just passing it on. It does exactly what clueless said, bites into metal
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Just in case there are any others for whom a visual works better than a write-up, here is the video I shot for ThePanduuh!
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Originally Posted by tomj77
(Post 7642819)
Why did u take it off to tap it? No need, just use grease on the tap, even if u do take it off u can't get shavings out from the backside if they fall in, they are in there for good. U screw the 1/8 npt to an6 fitting in the tapped hole. Use liquid Teflon or some kinda dealer on the fitting threads
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Originally Posted by heeter_33
(Post 7642898)
Now I can't remember if I used a sealer on the fitting threads. Way to go for putting that in my head haha.
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Originally Posted by colodude18
(Post 7642881)
Just in case there are any others for whom a visual works better than a write-up, here is the video I shot for ThePanduuh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtTdCsf0l3c |
Please help
I just picked up an 08 LNF, and it had this catch can in the trunk. I did post on a facebook group looking for help identifying it, and I was told this was a Powell Oil Separator v3, but got no help as far as install is concerned.
Under the hood, it looks like there is a line coming up from the dipstick and just goes to nowhere. I don't know what else I am missing, or where to mount this. Does anyone have an install sheet or a photo of one installed? It is a stock intake, if that is any help. I realize this is an old thread, but I am at a loss. Thanks in advance for any help. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...ef56cd9c45.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...ca8d7eefb2.jpg |
I have the Powell oil seperator, and have been running it for many years.
The line tapped to the dipstick tube is the return line - so that one is supposed to connect to the bottom of the catch can. I am not sure which version mine is, but it looks like yours - it mounted to the right (passenger) side of the block - to a bolt boss reserved for an engine lift bracket that the LNF never had installed from the factory; I actually found the ecotec lift brackets, and have one there, so my Powell oil separator mounting bracket is attached there on top of the lifting bracket. This was a pretty pricey kit (not complaining, just saying) so I find it odd that it was left in the truck and possibly never fully installed. I can get pictures of where the lines go if you like, |
Thank you! Someone sent me the instructions but it is like reading a foreign language. I did see what you are talking about as far as where it is mounted, but if you have time for any pictures on where the lines go, I would be grateful!
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I am absolutely happy to help.
I'll get something posted in the next day or so... My car is high & dry with a no start that I am making my way to solving, and long story short, it's in an ideal situation for pictures... |
Here we go;
The top line has a threaded end that goes to the valve cover - that's the line with the threaded end with a red plastic cover part in your picture; The other line goes onto the turbo. Don't mind the dirt (ect), my car has eclipsed 300,000km, and has been a daily driver since I bought it new. If my memory serves me, the original line from the turbo goes to the valve cover, and this setup essentially goes in place of that line - and introduced a drain that goes to the dip stick tube. This first picture is the ecotec lifting bracket (which I believe was NEVER installed on an LNF engine); I have the bracket installed correctly here - it uses pretty standard 13mm bolts - you don't need this bracket, but I am pointing it out because I have it in the spot you need to use to mount this oil catch can. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...159b941343.jpg This is that same bracket location with the Powell oil catch can mounted. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...c392758c87.jpg Now, this may seem like a cluttered picture, but i am actually focused on the bolt that is holding the line on the turbo (black end with the blue o-ring in your picture). https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...5b3d1305fa.jpg This is the end that connects to the valve cover. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...1674410524.jpg If my memory serves me, I had to remove the valve cover (don't worry there is a reusable rubber gasket there) and tap this hole for the oil line. |
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