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Old 07-29-2013, 01:06 AM
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I've idled and limped without the HPFP before, and it'll register ~80psi (around that is the lowest reading I believe). The car can be limped, but it'll max out at around 20-ish mph if I remember right. You'll basically be running straight off of the pressure from the gas tank's fuel pump.

In my case, after my build I forgot to grab and stick the roller-spacer in between the HPFP piston and cam lobe out of the old engine into the new engine, so it wasn't stroking the HPFP and was running off of flow-through from the fuel tank pump.
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I replaced mine even put the new one and check to see if the roller is hitting the hpfp and everything flowing smooth, it's crazy how my car idles it will got to 500rom then zero then 500-600 rpm then zero least that's the hptuner is showing, so going to unplug everything and check all my connections see if I put sumtin where it ain't suppose to go.
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What would happen if the timing for the balance shafts was off? Could that be a potential problem??
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Originally Posted by Nfamous60
What would happen if the timing for the balance shafts was off? Could that be a potential problem??
I was told those don't have to be timed... I didn't time mine
Old 07-29-2013, 10:12 AM
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^^ true. OP needs to get some help fast.
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Yea I do I checcd my timing and redid it again I pulled fuel relay to prime very thing sounds awesome sounds strong once I add the fuel relay she starts with that choking ****...and I can't even explain the idle issue could the crank I installed be bad I went over it no teeth were missing, gonna drop the oil pan again and look up there,
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Originally Posted by Nfamous60
Yea I do I checcd my timing and redid it again I pulled fuel relay to prime very thing sounds awesome sounds strong once I add the fuel relay she starts with that choking ****...and I can't even explain the idle issue could the crank I installed be bad I went over it no teeth were missing, gonna drop the oil pan again and look up there,
i dont think you know how to do the timing. Do you have a workshop manual and the VVT tool? If not to either you are not getting it done right. This is a painful thread
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Timing isn't that hard to do all my marks lined up I put all the guides in and the tensioner last, timing is not the issue if you read all the post I've made bout what's showing up in my logs if you see sumtin I'm missing be free to share I would like to have my car up and running,
Old 08-01-2013, 05:29 PM
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Dropping pan to inspect reluctor wheel, techs at Chevy told me to inspect it and make sure teeth aren't missing
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FINALLY FOUND THE ISSUE!!!
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The 2 teeth to the left of the flash the tooth under the flash and one tooth to the right of the flash those four r pushed like really not noticeable took 4 rotations of te crank to see and compared it to my old crank that how I was able to point it out, must have happened during shipping, they r not touching the journal but going to pull them bk and see what happens, found a few thread on LS1's and few Hondas where they were able to pull them bk n everything ran fine. Need this winter season to approach faster now so I can get my short block smh..... Budget ballin is killin me. But I found the problem.... Happy bout it
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Just barely out but visible.

Hope that fixes it.
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I hope so too
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Holy ****, man. That was some good attention to detail. Well, you wanted to learn the LNF. You're certainly doing that.
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You damn sure right, already help sum friends with clutch swaps and turbo Install, I'm loving it actually your guys help and guiding has really kept me on track!!! I've bent the teeth bk got oil pan on, bout to add oil n cross fingers.
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OH MAN A STRONG START... She done sputter I notice ignition timin gets retarded by 6.1 but varies a lol pulsing but not noticeable in the rpm band u just hear it sum no cutting off no stalling, Lil bit of white smoke that I think is fuel burning off it seems to b comin from my dumptube. Will get vid up soon as it loads going to drop the pan again, try and make the two teeth I think are to bent straighter then let her idle for bout 15mins
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glad to hear you figured it out, hopefully she starts and runs strong so you can get the break in done and see what kinda numbers she'll make
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Here the vid from first start up after bending teeth Bac alot more steady Lil pulsing so dropped the pan again, and double checking timin again think I need to tune I have stock tune on with all my mods...

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps568a98bc.mp4
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Ecaulk thanx for the words once she is driveable will be getting tuned conservative of course lol thinkin 440 should be gud til winter when I can get a short block.
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Tune should def be helpful, going to go ahead and guess the turbo you put on flows a lot differently than the little ko4
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Good to see you solved it, I thought sire **** it was a maf issue
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Should I put my 2bars Bac in??
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The one on the lower charge pipe is a 3bar the one not the intake mani is the stock 2bar I swapped diagnosing my issues
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Not if you have your problem solved
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
Tune should def be helpful, going to go ahead and guess the turbo you put on flows a lot differently than the little ko4
Yea I have a precision 5857 spools starts around 3400
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If you're on a stock tune and you put a 3bar sensor everything is going to be messed up. Leave the stock sensors in until you go to tune it

Originally Posted by Nfamous60
Yea I have a precision 5857 spools starts around 3400
When should it build full boost? And how much air does it flow?

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