So I go back and forth with my local dealer. They tell me there is an aftermarket MAP on my car...bla bla bla...

They have no f'n clue how to work on my car now.
So I have to drive 2 hours to where it was installed!

BULLSHIT!

Its been acting stupid for a month, it was at the dealer 2 weeks ago and I detailed what it was doing: hesitation, surging, boosting all crazy, loss of MPG, etc.....they cant "replicate the symptoms" on a drive and it was throwing no code so they give it back.....of course, I feel it doing it right away.

Finally, it throws a code and I am all excited that they can now read WTF is wrong. Of course, i have it read before dropping it off so i know and I can write it on the paperwork.

Forward to today. Just got the call.

"hey guy, is this an aftermarket setup on here"

no, its a stock car with the GMS1, THAT YOU SELL THE PARTS FOR!!! WOULD YOU LIKE THE ITEM NUMBER?

um, no, i have never seen this before, its not reading a code now but the memory had a #106 MAP code thrown but I have nobody trained to work on this kit, yer gona have to take it to who did it.

so let me get this right. this is a GM authorized and warranted kit, that you WONT work on?

sorry sir, we just don't know how.


**** ME I AM SOOOOOOO LIVID.................

 

that sucks!!!! take it to another dealership. clearly they are fucktards

 

the installers are 2 hours away...................god damn i am so annoyed.

I should have know the first time when they didn't even attempt to check the MAP given the symptoms and told me then they couldnt work on it.
So I wasted my f'd day letting them have it when i could have drove it to the installer since I am off work and stcuk home till my wife gets off.............grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

Be happy they were honest with you. Do you really want a mechanic with no experience with GMS1 working on your car? I wouldn't.

 

Good point.

Just frustrating that they somehow operate and sell these vehicles.
Plus he could have checked the darn MAP before (it was my guess and im no mechanic)


i wouldn't have brought it back had he told me then.

 

No doubt that it sucks.

 

Typical GM. what did you expect? them to do it right? not in a million years...

 

I'm willing to bet they know the bare minimums when it comes to turbos and tuning.

 

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

so tomorrow im driving down to rockenbach in grayslake at 7am....they got me in.
they installed it and took great care of me and im sure will again.

but damn, its a 80 minute drive at 7am.
coffee anyone?

very very scary...........why has rockenbach taken the initiative to be a specialist at it when all others remain dumbfounded about a car THEY SELL?

 

It's a ******* sensor, how hard can it be? Diagnose the problem, it's a car, they all run the same way, and if it's a problem with the kit installation, get GM on the phone if you're too retarded to handle it...and dealerships wonder why customers become irritated and go elsewhere.

At the very least I would log a call with GM customer service against the dealership letting them know how incompetent their service department is..I guarantee they will not be happy.

 

he said, "its got a wire spliced in where it shouldnt, did you put an aftermarket sensor on there?"



im going to call. im so aggravated i have ti get up at 5am on my day off to get to another dealer who is competent.

 

I can't find a facepalm image large enough. I don't expect everyone to know the kit exists, but I do expect people to listen at the dealerships when you clearly know more about the vehicle than they do. If you want to be a *****, print this off and take it in:


Document ID: 2370459
#09-06-93-005: Information on Accessory Power Upgrade Kit or Performance Parts LNF Turbo Upgrade Kit - (Nov 24, 2009)

Subject: Information on Accessory Power Upgrade Kit or Performance Parts LNF Turbo Upgrade Kit

Models: 2008-2010 Chevrolet Cobalt SS, HHR SS
2007-2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP
2007-2009 Saturn SKY Red Line
All Equipped with Engine RPO LNF

The Accessory Power Upgrade Kit or Performance Parts LNF Turbo Upgrade Kit (P/N 19212670) has been designed and validated by GM Engineers to retain the warranty for the specified vehicle on which it is installed. It does not void the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

If the Accessory Power Upgrade Kit or Performance Parts LNF Turbo Upgrade Kit is sold and permanently installed by a GM Dealer or a GM-approved Accessory Distributor/Installer (ADI) prior to delivery of the vehicle, it will be covered under the applicable portion (Bumper-to-Bumper, Powertrain, etc.) of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. In the event this accessory is installed after vehicle delivery, or it is replaced under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, it will be covered, parts and labor, for the balance of the applicable portion of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, but in no event less than 12 months/12,000 miles.

If this accessory is installed by anyone other than a GM Dealer or a GM-approved ADI, it will be covered, parts only, for the balance of the applicable portion of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, but in no event less than 12 months/12,000 miles. Workmanship will not be covered.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.


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Make sure you've called GM Customer service first though so you can tell them, I've filed a complaint, and btw, here's the information from GM on my "aftermarket" custom kit.

 

so hard right now

 

Glad I could be of assistance

 

im on the phone with chevy who is contacting them.

i am gona pick it up and drop the attached sheet off on the counter.

 

LOL Rockenbach is a bunch of morons. That is where I got mine. Anyway, I believe CED went there after Latoff closed??? That would explain why they have taken initiative to be a specialist IMO. If Latoff Chevy was still around Im sure they would be the specialist, and 45minutes closer too. Rockenbach is 45minutes from me. Latoff was only 5 minutes from me, lol. Oh well.

 

damn...........all i know is i need it fixed.

brand new freakin car under warranty and no one can figure out a sensor

 

I'd pay to be a fly on the wall when they review it and realise they have egg on their face. In general I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt but on the other hand I'll only argue for so long before I lose my patience. If I were in your situation I would be doing the same it's just unforunate you have to drive 2 hours out of your way with a gimped car because they refuse to listen.

As for your problem my guess is the MAP itself is hosed (a friend of mine recently had his GMS1 MAP **** the bed) or the spliced wires aren't making a proper connection, but here's an interesting read on P0106 if you're bored

P0106 Definition

Sounds eerily similar to your symptoms does it not ?

 

that is EXACTLY what she is doin!

 

Figured it would be. Out of curiosity were your sensors put in using the crimps or soldered/heatshrunk (is that a word?)? I'm leaning more towards the sensor since it's consistent but I'm just curious .

 

im gona guess crimped but i will ask them tomorrow to solder it )

I do not wana go back for this.
and i am at 30k so i dont have much warranty time left

also, its worse with the air cond on

 

I'm guessing it's worse due to the power loss associated with running the compressor and the motor is already struggling as it is. As for the sensors if they are crimped yes I would request they be soldered individually (MAP and TMAP) particuarly if the sensor needs to be replaced. After that heatshrink and a solid wrap of electrical tape, and if available the plastic shrouding to stop rubbing (which I still need to put on mine but I'm being lazy). It's a safeguard if nothing else. The tech looked at the crimps and said "I think not, I'm gonna solder them in place".

So far mine and the 4 or 5 others the dealer has done (as a result of me recommending them after the awesome job the tech, fresh out of school nonetheless, did on mine) are holding solid *knock on wood* and mine went through the winter last year with a fair amount of "rally inspired driving" on my ridiculous snow tires and extreme hot/cold cycles which is as good a test as any I'm thinkin' .

Hopefully they get everything taken care of for you

 

Those lazy *****.......... seriously all they have to do is call the TECH line that is available to any dealer . If they cant be bothered to do that then they shouldn't be in business .

It really pisses me off because the dealer i did all the IT work for bent over backwards for people and would spend hours on the phone to make someone happy. But they got the axe because the dealership wasn't a superstore...... It was a good old home town dealer where everyone knew everyone and had been here over 60 years .

Hell they let me do my own updates and let me keep their tech 2 over a long week end to figure out the misfire i had in my LSJ. They even warrantied a cover Venom drilled a hole in for a turbo's oil return line on an lsj lol........... Seeing **** like this really get me going .... sorry for the rant .

 

, no no rant away, it's better when it comes from someone that worked/works for a dealership, etc. I still burst out laughing .

On the bright side I told ya I was storing your TSBs elsewhere, only took me 10 seconds to dig up the one for the OP !

 

you guys got me rollin

love the rant, TSB and the air cond explanation

thanx for the support.
i agree, they took the lazy/easy wa out from having to do warranty work and pretty much didnt give a **** about me as a customer.