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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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ss/tc similar w/ astra vxr???

so i was watchin an older episode of top gear and it kinda got me thinking. it was with the astra vxr. it has a 2.0 turbo motor that generates a little less horse and torque then our balts. since its a vauxhal (spell check?) is it possible that we have the same motor?? i tried searching some stuff but couldnt find anything valuable.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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We have the same motor as the Vauxhall vx220/ Opel Speedster.

Its literally the U.K. version of the Saturn Sky redline.


This website says this. http://www.diseno-art.com/encycloped...220_turbo.html

The VX220 Turbo model, introduced in 2003, used a 2.0 L Ecotec LSJ engine, producing around 200 horsepower. This was mated to a 5 speed manual transmission driving the rear wheels.

Production of the Vauxhall VX220 ended in 2005. In its final year a more powerful, track orientated, limited-edition model called the VXR220 was introduced based on the VX220 Turbo platform.
Gaurantee that 2005 model used the LNF.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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what would be the big deal even if it did have the lnf?
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
what would be the big deal even if it did have the lnf?
its just a thought i had. maybe one day someone will see that car over in europe and it will have something we dont have (performance related) or maybe they figured out a way to solve an issue someone has here. i just think its good to know.

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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actually any info you wanted to know is right here is Wiki

GM Family II engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was wrong.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CudaJoe
actually any info you wanted to know is right here is Wiki

GM Family II engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was wrong.

so i checked out that site and that brought me to another interesting thing lol.

the fisker car has 2.0 litres (120 cu in) Turbocharged Ecotec VVT DI LNF + 2 pcs Electric Motors (201BHP equivalent each)

that's awesome! can you imagine 2 electric motors attached to our cars? ha yeah impossible for us to do but thats pretty cool none the less. i wonder how they went about doing that

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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Wonder if the Z-track rear supension will bolt up out of the astra or cruze?
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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so its the same engine but rwd hmm sounds interesting wouldnt mind swapping to make the balt rwd
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jboogie
Wonder if the Z-track rear supension will bolt up out of the astra or cruze?
yeah thats a pretty good question as well. but do you think there would be like greater benefit from that vs the suspenion we have now??
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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As you probably already found out, the older Vauxhall Astra VXR and the Opel Astra OPC used a different variant of the Ecotec that is port fuel injected and not the same as the LNF used in the Cobalt SS Turbo. It is pretty capable and can hold a good amount of power just like the LNF but with the turbo they used is a lot more peaky in power delivery. Many of the GM Europe cars are just now getting a different variant of the direct injected turbo engine this year that we're also getting in the currently German-built, imported Buick Regal (the LHU with 220hp/258ft-lbs). The changes and small drop in power over the LNF is more than likely due to emissions and economy reasons.

The older, last Astra VXR/OPC before the new Delta-II car this year was co-developed and tested alongside the Cobalt SS with Opel engineers and now defunct GM Performance Division engineers. As I recall GM mentioned in some of their documents they released when the '08 SS Turbo came out that they got better handling and ride out of the Cobalt than the Astra and it was also quicker around the Nürburgring by a significant amount. Some of the special editions of the VXR/OPC did come with 19" wheel and summer tire package which has been the biggest put on a Delta platform car from the factory and the suspension tuning should also be firmer on those Astras but otherwise it is very similar to the Cobalt with only tuning changes (i.e. bushings, springs/dampers, sway bars, etc.)
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