The real problem is the original owner of the car, it was never flashed back to stock before selling/ trading in the car. That is not Trifecta's fault you would have the same issue with HPT. Meaning you would have to go back to an HPT tuner to get your stock file back or tuned.

Just let Vince know your situation and I'm sure he'll be more than willing to help you out. I've actually got a tune from a well known HPT dealer on this site and never heard back from him again when I needed a re-tune, I eventually went back with Trifecta. Unfortunately, Vince has to lock his tune so that he can keep his proprietary tune/info private but this is can have a negative outcome, think from a business stand point.....I would e-mail Vince again with this thread and let him know that you truly need help, he could probably send you to an official Trifecta dealer in your area to get your stock tune file back. By the way I'm saying this from experience, Vince has helped me out more than I can count. He is a very busy person and he just may have just not seen the importance of this issue.....

 

If you have the EZ cable and software it gives you the option to flash back to stock.

 

No, the real problem is Trifcuta sucks and nobody can ever get a hold of Vince.

 

x2

 

 

they have another tuner besides vince called Stephen. nothing good to say

 

Good to know. From the few logs I've done on Trifecta tuned cars I can tell you neither got a clue how to tune, knock, missfire and running too lean is 'normal'

 

Out of the 5-6 different tune adjustments I've requested, I only had 1 instance where I waited more then 3-4 days. And on that one instance I got into BNR a bit and they got me my update the next day.

Power wise, idk how anyone can make claims that Trifecta is weak versus HPT(especially some of the more sketchy tuners). I put down similar #'s to HPT guys and I've done 12's on the stock turbo and 93 pump. I have no reason to swap.

 

This has to be the first time I've heard someone complain about a Trifecta tune being too lean. The general consensus from most HPT tuners is he runs his tunes on the rich side.

 

That's might be my fault, been awhile since I did that it probably was running rich, either way afr was all over the place

 

It has been a while but i thought that people with HPT were able to keep the DUEL tune from a trifecta car?

 

Got a response:

"Hello,

We are glad to hear about your upgrade to an SS/TC.

However, trifecta does not keep any single stock ECM read for clients. The calibration files we issue our clients include both the stock and custom profile within the same tune file.

The ECM is not locked or encrypted. Its just running a Trifecta OS that doesn't allow any other program to modify the ECM profile. All you have to do is flash it back to stock, overriding the TF tune and you are set.

Is the new tune going to be by HPT? If so, your tuner should know that they can download a stock SS/TC MAP from the HPT tune repository to use that and flash your vehicle back to a true stock profile to begin tuning from there.

Please let us know if you have any other questions."

So flashing a regular stock file from HPT will just override it? Or is **** gonna hit the fan?

 

Omg is this still being debated? Yes yes , flash it back to stock with the file u have, that's what I did and I have no issues

 

Ehem, let me clear my throat for a moment.

YOU CAN NOT FULL WRITE OVER A TRIFECTA TUNE VIA HPT. Regardless of what Vince says, it will NOT work. Trust me, I've tried on many cars to no avail. The custom OS that Vince uses is not in the least bit compatible with HPT so, unfortunately, it simply can not be flashed with HPT. It will need to be flashed back to stock via ezflash before proceeding.

 

U use the trifecta cable to do it . Everyone knows trifecta isn't compatible with hpt

 

Thing is, I don't actually have the stock file. That's why all of this is going on.

 

Do you have the Trifecta cable and software? Because that's all you need.

 

No... ****.... My lord you miss the point every time in some bizzarr attempt to contradict me. Thanks for the reminder as to why I took a break from this forum. Anyways....

My post was to address the question of if hpt can full write OVER, as in erase, an existing trifecta file with a stock callibration. Which it can not, regardless of what Vince claims.

 

What? Who the heck is trying to contradict u, I didn't even read ur posts. I figured that it had been established a while ago that u flash back to stock with trifecta cable then tune with hp tuners. Not hard concept, why is over writing trifecta with hp even being discussed? It can't be done, end of story. Why make it drag on. Just tell the op what he needs . Get trifecta cable, flash stock file, then hp tune. The end.

 

Lol u do though, if u have any trifecta tune file the stock file is built into it. This has been said a few times. Just open the file in ez tune , select stock, and write it. Then after that u can hp tune. Why is it being discussed any more ? Cause one persons says he had issues with the trifecta tune trying to come back off the bcm or something? No one else seems to have had that issue, I didn't, if ur just gonna sit here and discuss and not actually try, then ull never get it done. If u have an 09 I'll send u my stock file and u can see if that works

 

He doesn't have this, hence his problem..

Car came with Trifecta tune. OP didn't get any tune file from PO.

 

I say fuckit.. part the car out

 

Vince used to make trifecta files that hpt could edit. It was a high bread tune. So why can't he just send u an unlocked file. U need to get him on the phone and talk to him, cause it won't get solved here. I'm sure he can give u something. And it's bs that he can't get u a file, all he needs is ur vin and he can look up the car and the persons account and could contact previous owner for permission to grab one of the files off his account which would have the stock file in it. Don't let trifecta tell u no they can't , they can. Fight em

 

I just read the posts again, op do u know the original owner?

And also would it work for someone to give him a stock file from same year or does the vin have to match or something, cause I have a stock 09 trifecta file.

 

"Hello,

Thanks for the update and additional information.

As I stated earlier, we do not have a stock MAP we can just give you. Unfortunately, whatever you are reading on CSS is incorrect.

I have directly flashed over my own TF tune on my SS/TC using HPT and a full OEM SS/TC MAP. There are no issues with this.

I am not sure what people are talking about on the forums. Again, if your tuner is going to use HPT, he can find a stock MAP to download on the HPT forums in the tune repository and install that over the current TF operating system. Then, he can start tuning from there.

Your only other solution would be to talk to the previous owner and have him provide you with whatever file we sent him for the vehicle.

I hope you understand, that from a business perspective, we cannot just issue you the file, as you did not purchase it. We understand that you are just trying to go back to a stock profile but we have no way of verifying that. Or ensuring that you aren't just going to continue using our tune on the vehicle in the future.

Thanks again for checking back with us and we wish you the best."

I went through the WOT-Tuning site since that's Trifecta now. I did direct them to this thread. I'm getting ready to just contact Term2 to get the process started. Worst case, I buy a new PCM. I'm looking to eventually jump on the K04FTW (or K04R, wtf it's called) and I want a quality tune.

I did try to contact the previous owner several times but never got a response.