I'm going to keep this short and sweet for once.

SS/TC + Lifting off the the throttle in a tight bend = awesome.

It did catch me by surprise though, since FWD cars are usually disgustingly understeery.

 

Yup, thats how you get FWD to oversteer

 

It makes driving these things in the snow amazing...

1) Enter un-developed Cul-de-Sac in high first gear

2) Violently lift and do a Scandinavian flick

3) Enjoy slide

4) ?????

5) PROFIT!

 

I prefer using the e-brake for snow sliding

 

Yeah me too.

But I have done the lift-off oversteer on dry pavement in this car. Indeed... it's pretty awesome and not really difficult to get the Cobalt to do it for you.

 

it very controllable to i usually tend to have fun on off ramps when some ******* isnt in front doing forty. These cars are awesome they give you a lot of confidence when having fun.

 

**** with a rear sway bar, you can get the tail to dance out with out lifting the throttle.

 

rofl I love South Park to death, that show is 10x wat Family Guy or the Simpsons will ever be

did u do that to yours already? a new swaybar? I thought the ss/tc came with as big of a bar as the aftermarket had for the ss/sc?

 

The sway bar on our cars is not the same as an aftermarket one.

I really can't explain it without a picture of the rear axle...and yes I sold mine, shipping it out as soon as the money shows up in my account.

The thing about the 'sway bar' in the FE5 set ups, is that it is hidden within the rear axle, so you can bolt on a rear sway bar to stiffen up the ass.

 

Nothing like cars that have two rear sway bars.

 

Shoulda saw the WTF look on my face man

I was like...WE ARE SEMI INDEPENDANT...

Wait...that isn't where xxxx goes...oh ****...it's not a cobalt...

 

What you're looking at above is a GM N-body, an Achieva SCX to be specific, and the stock rear suspension layout is essentially the same as the Cobalt, with exception that the SCX's did come with two sway bars stock from the factory. My car has a giant aftermarket one (from a company that makes them for NASCAR cars) along with a rear disc brake conversion and an adjustable suspension design taken from the World Challenge/IMSA Firehawk racing series Achieva. The guy who built it pulled some of the parts off one of the actual old racecar from those series.

By the way, the rear of the car is to the left and you can't really see the control arms to the front of the axle (towards the right) but they're similar to the Cobalt's.

 

POST PICS of the turbo grand prix!!!!!!!!!!

 

That doesn't have too much to do with the thread, but they do handle pretty well and are a turbo GM, so I guess I'll have to comply.








I'm the second owner and the car has just over 63k miles. I bought it from an older couple and it was the wife's car but she said her husband liked driving it more than his 'vette. The wonderful GM paint is starting to have clearcoat issues on the hood and I bought it with trans issues, but stripped this from another W-body to swap in. One of a number of projects that I need to work on.

 

DROOOL Thats sick man, sick car... very clean.

 

Uh... most people don't usually drive onto onramps wanting to get some kind of high-g action. They aren't really ********. They're just... normal people.

I'll definitely agree that most drivers are idiots and a lot of people shouldn't be on the road but... eh, another story for another time.

South Park is awesome. Family guy has nothing on South Park.

I've actually been under my Cobalt a few times on a lift, with a giant flashlight, and I can't seem to put my finger on the sway bar. I took some pictures as well, but I lost my digital camera cable... so yeah. Where the hell is the "hidden rear sway bar"?!

 

Yeah I hate people on on-ramps sometimes. They get going right up to 40 or 45 and then try to merge. It's like "Hello! It might be easier if you were going with the flow of traffic"

I changed out the rear sway on my RSX-S when I had it.
It was pretty well balanced with just a SLIGHT bias to swing out the tail. It handled awesome....

 

I'm not saying "Damn people for going forty." I'm saying, if you're trying to... do some spirited driving, don't get all pissy because someone is in front of you. It's a buzz kill, yes, but remember these ARE public roads after all. Save the silliness for a closed course, or a really empty road. Not everyone can hit .9g on an onramp in any car.

 

i wasn't blaming them sorry it sounded like that what i meant like you said its a kill joy because the car just begs for more and more. I love it!!!!!!

 

are you on quad4forums? w41 ftw!

 

Take a look inside the "U" shape axle from underneath it. The sway is integral to the axle assembly.


While I think I might still have a really old account, I occasionally used to browse there but never really posted.

 

that car is like a holy grail to the quad scene.

 

After hitting a small rock or something that got caught somewhere in my passenger side brake assembly, I had an opportunity to look at the car again under a lift. Upon close inspection I found the "integral sway bar" or torsion bar or whatever. Thanks again, blackbird.

There's a deserted onramp that goes into an industrial complex, and it's sort of like... a 50mph lateral-g test ramp for me. I'm afraid to lift off though. I don't want any of my threads to turn into "Another Cobalt Crash. Pictures."

I can't get enough of this car.

 

Does anyone elses ESC not turn off when you turn the traction control off?

I was screwing aroung in a snowy parking lot before work and with the traction control off, the ESC still turns on when the car starts understeering or oversteering.... What the hell !!!!

 

When you press the Traction Control button, this cycles the modes between TC off, Competition mode w/ launch control, and ESC back on. In order to fully disable traction control and stability programs, you must hold the button down for ten seconds.

Traction off disables the portion of the stability program that limits power to the drive wheels (which works well when you're driving through heavy snow, and still want to move, but don't want to drive into a snow drift or something).

Happy parking lot thrashing!