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Old 06-21-2013, 07:02 PM
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Trifecta Tune Opinions

looking from going to gms1 to trifecta, what's your imput mainly? and what numbers I could be looking at, im catless and cutout and cp and drop-in.

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in for this to,I have somebody who might be interested in making this move.
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It's the same as any remote tuning, except with Trifecta it is a little more convenient for some.
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ull be around 300whp on stock turbo on maybe 22-23 psi
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r u trifecta? im just wondering is it a pain in the ass to get a tune by vince and can I pull the tune off anytime if I belew something in the motor even tho its undectecdable?
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I have trifecta, its easy to upload and reload the stock tune. I have the cable if you don't want to buy the cable. Its a huge difference over stock, unsure of what for stage 1 though. If you want we can test to see what the difference is in power one day lol, just catless dp and k&n intake done to my car, vince set it all up I did some pulls sent it to him he sent it back and good to go. I really like how its stock and then press a button and its a whole different car
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The difference will be the 270~whp that GMS1 makes to the 305-320~ that a custom tune makes (depending on the dyno) and HEAPS of torque haha.

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r u trifecta? im just wondering is it a pain in the ass to get a tune by vince and can I pull the tune off anytime if I belew something in the motor even tho its undectecdable?
Getting tuned by Vince was the easiest thing in the world for me. Get it through a vendor and they'll make sure that you'll get responses asap. Mine took no more than 48 hours. You'll save money that way too. As for undetectable, I think that topic is still debated. It's really easy to pull your tune out, takes only a couple minutes but I can't guarantee they won't find some sort of trace. Some say the LNF tracks reflashes, some say it doesn't I'm honestly not sure.
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I'm GMS1/Trifecta stealth on a CAI and otherwise stock (except for KY clutch). Unless I push the magic traction button twice, I'm GMS1 all day long.

The difference between the tunes is night and day, and my tune by e-mail was completely uneventful -vince set things up after 2 tunes - I have the cable, so changes can be adjusted with a corrected tune no prob.
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sounds like its worth it, my plans were to buy from BNR and get my own cable

see this race is me vs a trifecta tune, i believe this guy has major driver error, and if we ran any more threw 4th i believe he shoulda started to pull hard

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Originally Posted by nobody2u
The difference will be the 270~whp that GMS1 makes to the 305-320~ that a custom tune makes (depending on the dyno) and HEAPS of torque haha.



Getting tuned by Vince was the easiest thing in the world for me. Get it through a vendor and they'll make sure that you'll get responses asap. Mine took no more than 48 hours. You'll save money that way too. As for undetectable, I think that topic is still debated. It's really easy to pull your tune out, takes only a couple minutes but I can't guarantee they won't find some sort of trace. Some say the LNF tracks reflashes, some say it doesn't I'm honestly not sure.
They cannot trace trifecta, vince worked his magic on flash counter and whatever else they check. I've verified firsthand.

I have 24 psi e47 tune with 19-20 degrees of timing, pulls a lot harder than my 21 psi 91oct tune.

I also love the tune engagement with competitive mode, car completely changes a the push of a button!
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Im overall happy with my trifecta tune I had quite a few revisions but I also had vince change my tunes quite a bit to what I wanted. He couldnt figure out one issue I was having which had nothing to do with how the car was running but just something I wanted changed. Cars pulls hard and runs great, His revisions and email responses were always fast to I always got new tunes everyday after I sent him a log.
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This has benn on my mind alot lately as well. But from a few things I have read there apperantly wasn't a huge difference between gms1 and a basic trifecta tune. But there was a huge difference from stock to a trifecta tune. I read a post just a week or two ago that someone went from gms1 to trifecta and only made 15 hp more and 25ish trq more on the same dyno. Although I know that doesnt mean too much. So when I tune I will get Term to hpt my car so the differemce is very noticable. But I would really love to have my car gms1 for daily driving and then when I want or need a few extra ponnies to be able to add extra power at the press of the traction control button. That part would be sweet.
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its been a pain in the ass to get ahold of vince for logs/questions, but thats just me, have to email him multiple times to get a response, if any
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I have no hp guys around me that I trust, I just want a quicker then the average around me, every cobalt around me is staged and anything would help...
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Originally Posted by kzak104
its been a pain in the ass to get ahold of vince for logs/questions, but thats just me, have to email him multiple times to get a response, if any
hmm that's weird, but a few ppl I've talked to said that to

also do you guys suggest going threw a vendor like BNR or straight threw trifecta?

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That's why you should get it through a good vendor. You'll save money and get better response time- it's a win-win really. When I was data logging it never took Vince longer than 48 hours to get my stuff sorted.
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i go thru bnr, and i have also sent emails to vince directly.
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Originally Posted by QuickSilver_SS
This has benn on my mind alot lately as well. But from a few things I have read there apperantly wasn't a huge difference between gms1 and a basic trifecta tune. But there was a huge difference from stock to a trifecta tune. I read a post just a week or two ago that someone went from gms1 to trifecta and only made 15 hp more and 25ish trq more on the same dyno. Although I know that doesnt mean too much. So when I tune I will get Term to hpt my car so the differemce is very noticable. But I would really love to have my car gms1 for daily driving and then when I want or need a few extra ponnies to be able to add extra power at the press of the traction control button. That part would be sweet.
I went from stock to GMS1, then to GMS1/Trifecta without any additional mods past the CAI I installed prior to GMS1, and I can tell you definitively there's a difference. GMS1 gives me a little spin going into 2nd, and trifecta gives me spin all through 2nd. The additional power is noticeable across the powerband. I generally think that, if you are relatively mildly bolted, the difference between tunes isn't worth too much argument. Maybe it means a lot more when you're closer to the edge, or want every last pony. I've also had no problems getting my updates from vince.
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That's why you should get it through a good vendor. You'll save money and get better response time- it's a win-win really. When I was data logging it never took Vince longer than 48 hours to get my stuff sorted.
which vendor do u go threw? im also waitin back on a response from bnr .
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I went from stock to GMS1, then to GMS1/Trifecta without any additional mods past the CAI I installed prior to GMS1, and I can tell you definitively there's a difference. GMS1 gives me a little spin going into 2nd, and trifecta gives me spin all through 2nd. The additional power is noticeable across the powerband. I generally think that, if you are relatively mildly bolted, the difference between tunes isn't worth too much argument. Maybe it means a lot more when you're closer to the edge, or want every last pony. I've also had no problems getting my updates from vince.
so do u say its not woth the money from gms1 to trifecta
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Originally Posted by gotboost?17
sounds like its worth it, my plans were to buy from BNR and get my own cable

see this race is me vs a trifecta tune, i believe this guy has major driver error, and if we ran any more threw 4th i believe he shoulda started to pull hard

Trifecta vs Stg 1 - Cobalt SS/TC - YouTube
ya this guy couldn't drive, he should have walked u
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Originally Posted by gotboost?17
r u trifecta? im just wondering is it a pain in the ass to get a tune by vince and can I pull the tune off anytime if I belew something in the motor even tho its undectecdable?
I am trifecta, and it isn't a pain, just buy the cable with it. I always tune back to stock when it goes in for work. just to be safe.
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which is the best vendor to get from? i was gunna go threw bnr since they usually give u a cable when they have a sale, but i dont want the problems like kzak having
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trifecta, that's where I got mine.

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how are your response/return turn around time?


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