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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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I had a chat with John about them. I was bitching to him about how the tire felt like it was rolling over suddenly in long sustained turns. He mentioned that one of the reasons that it occurs is due to the softness of that bushing. It allows the bottom of the tire to tuck, so you lose camber.

It was the strangest feeling. I couldn't figure out what was going on, and so I kept playing with tire pressures. Anyhow, I've had them on order from OTTP, but they didn't make it in time for the event. I'll have them on by the next one though!

I really like that they are sealed. If you drive like a maniac, and have rough weather, they'll probably still last a few seasons. All spherical bearings wear, but it probably isn't any faster than the rate at which that stock bushing will get destroyed. There are some cars that come with sealed spherical bearings from the factory, like the Evo (not sure if this is true of the X), and I haven't heard of anyone complaining about them wearing too fast.

If you care about not destroying the outside of the front tires, it's important. I was under the impression that I just needed a massive amount of camber, til he pointed this out.
while you are getting the cab's replaced look into getting the derlin leading bushings too
http://www.ottperformance.com/store/...ng-41p1224.htm
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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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while you are getting the cab's replaced look into getting the derlin leading bushings too
http://www.ottperformance.com/store/...ng-41p1224.htm
They're sitting in the same box as my CABs, right next to the powergrid endlinks
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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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They're sitting in the same box as my CABs, right next to the powergrid endlinks
hahha ya me too, pedders, and all those are sitting in my living room waiting....just staring at me giving me the stink eye
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Interesting. I'll follow your upgrade path and pick up a set of XR1's. Nice that they don't require bedding. Can take advantage of the awesome drop-in calipers we have

Now to find somebody who carries them.
How do the pads not require bedding? There isn't anything listed on Cobalt Frictions websites that indicates this? Just wondering.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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How do the pads not require bedding? There isn't anything listed on Cobalt Frictions websites that indicates this? Just wondering.
http://cobaltfriction.com/compounds/

"Furthermore, unlike traditional resin-based compounds, Cobalt XR-Series friction composites do not require bedding/burnishing to achieve optimal performance, and exhibit consistent performance throughout the life of the pad."
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
http://cobaltfriction.com/compounds/

"Furthermore, unlike traditional resin-based compounds, Cobalt XR-Series friction composites do not require bedding/burnishing to achieve optimal performance, and exhibit consistent performance throughout the life of the pad."
Lol, i'm retarded. I was looking under the descriptions of the different compounds, but it's right at the top. Are you using these with a set of dedicated track rotors, or the stockers? Thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Stockers. I don't see any reason to switch the rotors, since I haven't had a problem going back to the stock pads. The CF pads leave the rotors very clean and smooth. No glazing, no mirroring, and no uneven deposits.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Good to know. I was wondering if you had any issues going back to stock pads without turning the rotors. I didn't know if the different compound of the CF pads left deposits on the rotors that aight adversely affect the stock pads. But, you answered that for me, thanks.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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So u went with the XR1 pads?

Also, do they have SS/SC size pads?

-I'm on iPhone btw, I may have missed something.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Yep, XR1. They make them in SC sizes as well. I believe they make both front and back for the SC, but only the front for TC. The CSR compound would probably be good for rear pads.

http://www.cobaltfriction.com/assets...ice%20List.pdf
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Who do you recommend we purchase the XR1 pads from?

I'm vary interested
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Who do you recommend we purchase the XR1 pads from?

I'm vary interested
victor@vprmotorsports.com Tell him I sent you. He's the one that got the pads for me, so he knows how to get the right ones. Make sure you specify supercharged or turbocharged so you get the right size!

I've used CF pads for years, and have always been impressed. Dunno if Andie is still at the company, but he knows his stuff, and is a good guy, which is more than I can say for some pad companies.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Cool, just shot an email off to Victor. Hopefully I can get the pads in my hands before my next day on the track, May 18th!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Just bumping this up to say the XR1's are the most amazing pad I've ever felt. Well worth the price for a dedicated track pad. They wear great too. After 100 minutes at Laguna Seca, they show very little signs of wear after a lot of 110-50 stops on the front straight and many 100-60 stops leading up to the corkscrew.

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Very little noise, no signs of over heating and brake amazingly well right out of the box. Would and will buy again for sure.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-BjF21ufTA
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeBMX
Just bumping this up to say the XR1's are the most amazing pad I've ever felt. Well worth the price for a dedicated track pad. They wear great too. After 100 minutes at Laguna Seca, they show very little signs of wear after a lot of 110-50 stops on the front straight and many 100-60 stops leading up to the corkscrew.
Glad you liked them. I've been running CF pads for many years now. They're consistently my favorite pad. The XR1 is amazing. By no means is it too much pad. Super linear and consistent. I love it. I need to get some air to my brakes though.

Man, some of those students out there were awful. Your driving looks good though! Was that an instructed session, or all solo?

Can I just say again, bravo to GM for anondizing these calipers, or whatever they did. No shitty paint like the Brembos on Evos and STIs. Those all turn **** brown after a track day, and if they don't, it's because they weren't being driven fast.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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Yawn, another porsche
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Best written commentary in a video ever
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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dude that second video, if that happened to me it would scare the **** out of me lol
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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Glad you liked them. I've been running CF pads for many years now. They're consistently my favorite pad. The XR1 is amazing. By no means is it too much pad. Super linear and consistent. I love it. I need to get some air to my brakes though.

Man, some of those students out there were awful. Your driving looks good though! Was that an instructed session, or all solo?

Can I just say again, bravo to GM for anondizing these calipers, or whatever they did. No shitty paint like the Brembos on Evos and STIs. Those all turn **** brown after a track day, and if they don't, it's because they weren't being driven fast.
Yea, these brakes need cooling badly. I've thought about taking the fog lights out and putting ducting in place. Not sure if there is room, though. Regardless, I still love these pads and wish I had bought them sooner.

The video was 5 20 minutes sessions cut together, and the group holding the event didn't give me an instructor! They pretty much told me that I've had enough time on other tracks that I can manage this one alone. I've done hundreds of hours of this track on Forza 1, 2, and 3, and I watched a whole bunch of tutorials of the place on youtube, and driven the two other tracks in the area a handful of times, so I had a fair understanding of the place going into it. Some drivers did have instructors, though.

Props to them for taking the Porsches and other cars to a track. One dude even brought his Bugatti Veyron. However, he was in a different run group I should not have passed that ZR1 at the end, I wanted to hang back and listen to the car, but he was angrily pointing me by

Not only did GM do a good job on the calipers, they did a great job on the rest of the car! The thing is totally unbelieveable on a track for being less than $22k new. It's great for the soul when a guy driving his $80k+ car comes up to you after the session and asks, "What the hell is a Cobalt doing passing me!"


Originally Posted by BlackSSNick
dude that second video, if that happened to me it would scare the **** out of me lol
lolwut?


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Everyone, go sign up for your local HPDE! Do it at least once in this car! The car was built for it If you're a beginner, the car will need nothing other than a good attitude!
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Damn I want to do some track days? I live In va I use to auto cross the **** out of my Fiero
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Joe, one thing to watch out for, the Cobalt Frictions have some studs in them towards the backing plate to help keep the pad on. Just keep an eye out as they get really low. I run them til they show.
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Everyone, go sign up for your local HPDE! Do it at least once in this car! The car was built for it If you're a beginner, the car will need nothing other than a good attitude!
I'm working up the gutts to track it but am looking to do an instructional day first (need to talk to Venom). I need to pick-up a helmet and make sure I have extra $ laying around before I take; not sure how these KDWs are going to hold up to constant laps on a track, I'm assuming the Hawk HPS aren't going to hold up terribly well to constant abuse, and since my mortgage closed on Tuesday I need to plan my financials a little more carefully than before .

Looks like hella fun though, and at least if I had some instructor time (with someone I trust, or at the very least venom knows and trusts!) I'd feel a little better going out there with her .
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Everyone, go sign up for your local HPDE! Do it at least once in this car! The car was built for it If you're a beginner, the car will need nothing other than a good attitude!
trying too, but I want ultraleggeras and new tires for track days, and that costs some moniez. Plus theres only 2 tracks and they are 4+ hours away the lack of automotive driving in MN is lame. There was suppose to be a huge track setup (drag, road course, drift) 1 hour away from me but the people who lived in/near the town freaked out and got it canceled. It wasnt even near town and in the middle of the woods. lame.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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trying too, but I want ultraleggeras and new tires for track days, and that costs some moniez. Plus theres only 2 tracks and they are 4+ hours away the lack of automotive driving in MN is lame. There was suppose to be a huge track setup (drag, road course, drift) 1 hour away from me but the people who lived in/near the town freaked out and got it canceled. It wasnt even near town and in the middle of the woods. lame.
You don't need Ultraleggeras or new tires. Just go run it stock, like Joe was saying. If it's your first time, the car is setup fine. It isn't until you get faster when you need to consider things like better pads. Quite frankly, people usually try to get too much tire for their first few events. The result is that they don't learn how to control a car at its limits, instead they drive at their limit.

For what it's worth, I bought a set of extra stock wheels to be my track wheels. They're forged and lightweight. I gave up an extra .5", but it's not really a big deal, and certainly not worth forking out an extra few hundred dollars for a nicer wheels.
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JoeBMX what were you useing to mount the camera in the places you had it. there are no racetracks bye me but there are some pretty awesome backroads and iv been looking for a way to mount the camera out side the car
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