Again what planet are you on. It is not. The MR is $40k. Yes you start buying all kinds of crap from the dealer and it will get up there but the GSR is no where near $40k. I HAVE ONE


They sticker at $33, you really are out of the loop. I OWN ONE

 

Welcome to the real world.
People read news articles, strange columns and other stupid tidbits of information. The stranger they are, the more they make their way around.

It would suck if a hot woman thought you looked good, but didn't want to send you any signals because you were wearing a 4 wheeled *** badge.l

 

And some news for you. If you pay MSRP, you dont know how to negotiate. Actually if you pay anything more then $500 over invoice, you dont know how to negotiate. So with those numbers the evo is NOWHERE NEAR $40K, unless you get into an MR with every option and ADDON available

 

Has nothing to do with car shopping or the real world... I was just saying that it's pretty bad whenever a dealership sales manager tells their employees a statistic like that... Whether it's true or not, I don't know? Don't shoot the messenger...

 

Not shooting the messanger, I just know to not send any referals to that dealer.

 

Dont think anyone cares here, your the one who brought up the evo thing...Nice cars, just too expensive imo...I was just on autotrader and saw many x's well over 40 or close to...and alot of 2006 9's still well over 30.

 

sorry again things got way off topic. Buy the car your going to be happiest with. I love the evoX, so thats why Im a little bias towards it.

AUTOTRADER. GO to the dealer, and look at the sticker. I HAVE ONE. You act like Im pulling this out my ass. Whatever. Im done with this one. I know how much they are.

 

Yes to get back on topic... My vote is the SS/TC... I am biased towards Chevy and have always disliked VW's. IMO they are way too small inside. I drove one a couple times and was just horribly unimpressed. I say go with the SS because it is brand new and the aftermarket (what tiny one there is) is already starting to look impressive. If I had to do it all over again though, I would have bought a G35 before my SS/SC...

 

Ok for the record, yeah EVO X GSR starts out @33k, for a base model... Add a few options and you are looking at 33-36k... But that's quite a difference from a Cobalt SS/TC that starts out at only $22,995.

EVO X > Cobalt SS/TC but it also costs 10k more... So if you can afford it, definitely go for it... But the discussion was for a GTI or a Cobalt SS/TC

I like both cars....

which car will perform better.. That's hard to tell. Base performance the Cobalt SS/TC has more HP and more torque... But all you have to do is spend 400-600 on an APR tune or whatever and you will get the GTI in and over stock Cobalt SS/TC territory... But I believe once the mods really start coming out since the Cobalt SS/TC has more stock HP (which always doesn't mean anything) so in the end I see it being the better performer...

Also on autocross/auto X, track days, HPDE events, the Cobalt SS/TC > GTI

Now weight, yeah Cobalt SS/TC weighs in just under 3k lbs w out driver, the GTI weighs over 3000lbs...

Interior? Hmm I'd go with the GTI, although I hate those cloth seats... Go with leather...

Cost? well compare the base prices Cobalt SS/TC, $22,995 with it fully loaded, sun roof, high rise spoiler, LSD, you are looking high 23's low 24's... For a VW it can get up in the mid to high 20's

Also factor depreciation and cost to maintain if you are buying it for the long run... the Cobalt will depreciate faster.. But the parts on a VW being foreign will be more expensive and both cars don't have the best reputation for quality...

So it's all based on your tastes... Which will be the better performer? Well depends on how much you want to do to it... You could swap out the turbo and go bigger eventually on both cars and you're looking at some good HP. Go with what you want.

Oh I forgot that you said you were getting a DSG in the GTI, that alone would make it stock more expensive then a Cobalt SS/TC (I think)... That also sorta changes things... You'll get quicker times with the DSG compared to a stick... but where's the fun in driving that to gain a couple tenths of a second?

 

The DSG is extremely fun to drive.

Cobalt = more power
GTI = better interior

Take your pick

 

agreed. Then where I would take it is, there is always more power to be had. Usually upgrading power isnt to costly especially when you are set up for forced induction already. The interior on the other hand and how comfortable a car is isnt that easy to change in most cases, also not very cheap

 

Go over to the vortex forums and go into the 2.0T section and look at the power some of these guys are making just by chipping their cars. I would rather have a new cobalt but the aftermarket for the vdubs is really good and you can out down some strong numbers.

 

buy the t/c, its rare and american. it also won the fast and the frugal. the t/c has lsd.

 

My best friend has a GTI. They look awesome but they are really really small inside. I know this has been said already but I feel that it can not be stressed enough. Also, after driving my SS/TC and then driving the GTI, I felt like I wasn't going anywhere in the GTI . Good luck on your choice and enjoy your new car!

Jake

 

They are slow stock but like I said chip them and they arent a joke anymore

 

I believe it! ^^

The German stuff is pretty nice.

 

Just take a look at some of these sites

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu...de_mkvgti.html

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50375

 

Unless GM SERIOUSLY FUDGES the staged kits for the cobalt ss/tc we should be seeing 300whp within 1-2 years max from GMPP and WITHIN WARRENTY........tell me again why you think the GTI is going to be faster?? Oh, and.......slowest car owned in 10 years.......so u've only owned 9second cars huh?? U just wait till GMPP drops their stage kits for the cobalt ss/tc, add the enhanced handling and I think this cobalt ss/tc will be greatly changing your mind about how it's the "slowest car you've owned in 10 years"

 

The GTI is a nicer car when you get all the options, especially the interior. Performance wise I think the Cobalt is going to destroy it. We start with a turbo they upgrade to. If you were smart you ordered the LSD, the vdubs usually upgrade to a quaife. Cobalt is the best bang for the buck period. Aftermarket support is huge for the GTI but big turbo kits run up to 4K and up. The EVO should not even be mentioned, it should be compared to STI's and 335i.

 

I edit for you.......but wait, this is about the cobalt, not BMW's and EVO's rite? lol

 

Hahaha Rare my ass and American cars are **** right now in the tuner market, everyone and their grandma drvies an SS/SC or SS/TC now, they are the new SRT-4's........stop smoking crack and get real, the only rare GM L series 4 cylinder is the Ion Redline, which seeing one you dont know is very very rare. I swear this website has gone down hill so bad since i first joined with my old name before i got banned.

 

So why don't you use that name?

You don't like it here...leave

 

I don't know but I smoked GTis when I was stock in my LSJ, and everyone knows a LSJ is slower then a LFN...thats my .02

 

You're only saying this because you have a redline lol I see an equal amount of both cars. In fact I haven't even seen a new ss/tc yet...besides mine.

 

I have seen a few, I know he is breaking forum rules if he was perma banned and is making a new account.

I smell another ban coming.