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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by N_Lowe
Amazing comparrison! great job. but with that i have a few questions, im currently creaming on my laptop over videos of these guys with 600hp on the evo. my GOD it sounds incredible. 600 is more than likely alot harder to obtain, but you say stock tranny and such hardware is going out around 430-450, so with that being said, on the safe side, is a 400whp evo better than a 400whp cobalt? everyone on here seem to be on the safe side with 400+.. ugh idk man, the looks (imo) of an evo x or ix beat the cobalt. dont get me wrong, the cobalt doesnt look bad at all. but if the only plus is looks then why go with it?

i cant really ask that beause i have never driven an evo, (drove a 450whp 06 sti 2 years ago so i cant remember what awd feels like)

is the awd really THAT much more worth it? sorry im being a pain, but im really " pro and conning" it out on paper right now.
I love awd. Never a dull moment with it. I always hated spinning all the time in my balt. Don't have that issue anymore. The Evo will be better in legal, competetive racing, than the balt will. Not saying the balt isn't a perfectly capable car, it is, but the evo will be better in a 1/4 mile drag race, faster in autox, and on a road course for the most part. The evo is a car you really have to drive. If you've driven an STI, that's roughly how a X feels to me. The IX is shaper and responds to mods better. Like I said, the X would be easier to live with on a daily basis. You really just need to try to drive one. X feels a lot like a balt with AWD. The IX feels... rougher, more raw. It's hard to explain to someone who hasn't driven both. It's really something that you just have to experience for yourself. I will say though, one AWD launch, and you'll be hooked.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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cobalt ss/tc is the best bang for buck car period.
evo x looks better and is more practical, but is waaaay overpriced, and needs a lot of money to keep up with a modded cobalt.
its noth worth it...pick something else or keep what you got, in my opinion
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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not a big jap car fan, but id say dont stick with FWD. only reason i have it is to keep me outta trouble.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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Get the X if you can afford it. Even if it's slower than a modded SS/TC is still not a cobalt and front wheel fail.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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People's motors are fine at 400whp, but some are having trannys go, so that's your call. Seriously, all you can do with a 400whp cobalt is highway rolls, thats it. If that's fine by you then by all means build the balt. You will destroy on the highway, but from a dig or low speeds, you're just gonna spin all day. It's a motor with a ton of potential that is let down by its drivetrain. The power is useless unless you are already at highway speeds. So that's where the magic of AWD comes in, to put that power to the ground.

If it were me, I'd be looking at RWD.
ummm...

lsj brakes
15" wheels
slicks

as far as street driving, just get some nice drag radials. its not that hard.

drag bags help too. ive seen fwd cars pull some good 60's



anyways, op, get what you like. i myself would love an evo X... if i could afford it. lol. evos can become money pits fast. i had a friend who sold his fp red evo (made well over 500awhp) for an RSX just because he was tired of the evo breaking and he used to be a honda guy.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:41 PM
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or have both!
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
ummm...

lsj brakes
15" wheels
slicks

as far as street driving, just get some nice drag radials. its not that hard.

drag bags help too. ive seen fwd cars pull some good 60'sH



anyways, op, get what you like. i myself would love an evo X... if i could afford it. lol. evos can become money pits fast. i had a friend who sold his fp red evo (made well over 500awhp) for an RSX just because he was tired of the evo breaking and he used to be a honda guy.
If you read my earlier post I clearly state slicks or highway rolls. Also as much as we'd all like to, it isn't exactly legal to roll around on the street with drag tires on.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
anyways, op, get what you like. i myself would love an evo X... if i could afford it. lol. evos can become money pits fast. i had a friend who sold his fp red evo (made well over 500awhp) for an RSX just because he was tired of the evo breaking and he used to be a honda guy.
with that being said, factorying in MPG, break down, aftermarket parts, and overall price of car, wouldnt the cobalt be the better option?
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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I say Evo but get an VIII or IV (Like TommyP said.)

There are no 03 STIs (Like TommP said.) LOL

There are a few cons though:

Lots of tools for owners. That's true for any group of car owners, but some groups seem to have more douches than others. Evo owners are one of those groups. If you made this same poll on EvoM, you'd get 100% saying to get an EVO and nearly everyone would have to throw in a comment about how Cobalts are big pieces of ****.

If you do get an EVO, don't be surprised if Mitsubishi Motors North America (MMNA) pulls a Suzuki and goes bankrupt. Mitsubishi, as a whole, is strong and profitable but their North American Motors division is hemoraging money and hasn't made a profit in a decade. Experts have been speculating that Mitsubishi will leave North America since 2004. Everyone thought for sure it was all over in 2008/2009. The difference now is that Mitsubishi isn't rebounding AT ALL.

The auto industry, as a whole, is up 15%. MMNA is down 31%. Mitsubishi sells less than one fifth the amount of cars they sold ten years ago. Right now Mitsubishi only sells three cars. THREE! Their little plug in doesn't count IMO because less than 500 have been sold. Only the Outlander is scheduled for any kind of changes and that won't be until 2014. By then it'll likely be "too little too late."

If MMNA goes under, there will be no more Mitsubishi dealerships and resale values will plumit. Resale on all Mitsubishis is horrible. Only the EVO has good resale value, but that's probably going to change once more people are made aware of the current situation. It's not going to be the same as when Pontiac, Plymouth, Saab, Hummer, etc. went. Those brands shared platforms with cars that survived so parts and dealership service departments are still readilly available. When MMNA goes, that won't be the case.

Mitsubishi dealerships are closing left and right. Most of the remaining dealerships are only partialy Mitsubishi sales, such as a dealership that sells mainly Volkswagons and Mitsubishis on the side. Due to the decreasing sales over the last ten years, those dealerships that are solely Mitsubishi are generally outdated. The sales personnel aren't the best because the pay is the worst in the industry. The service department is going to try to generate as much revenue as possible to help offset the lack of sales. This means denying warranty work, suggesting unnecessary repairs/maintenance and charging higher prices.

In addition, if the economy gets anywhere near as bad as it did in 2008, Mitsubishi Motors North America won't survive without taking EVEN MORE money from its sister divisions who will probably also be struggling. At some point someone at Mitsubishi is gonna pull the plug. Why they haven't done so already is a mystery. They must have some seriously optimistic executives. It's not a question of IF MMNA will leave. It's a question of WHEN.

If you're even thinking of selling an EVO, now's the time to do it. If you're buying one, you may want to wait a while and let the current owners take the giant subsiquential hit if MMNA closes shop in North America.

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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by N_Lowe
with that being said, factorying in MPG, break down, aftermarket parts, and overall price of car, wouldnt the cobalt be the better option?
If you don't make very much money...
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by N_Lowe
with that being said, factorying in MPG, break down, aftermarket parts, and overall price of car, wouldnt the cobalt be the better option?
it would be the cheaper option. i love mine because when i blow up a trans or a motor it isnt going to cost me a crapload to fix. lol
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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I voted SS/TC. I would love an EVO X but they are expensive to mod and when **** breaks, its stupid expensive to repair.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:28 PM
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Powerful reliable cobalt? Get bigger turbo, better clutch, valve springs, grippy tires. Then wait for tranny to break Or axles snap. Buy better ones.

^^^^ This plan sounds 100x better than spending a ton more money on getting another car.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Rwd!
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
cobalt ss/tc is the best bang for buck car period.
evo x looks better and is more practical, but is waaaay overpriced, and needs a lot of money to keep up with a modded cobalt.
its noth worth it...pick something else or keep what you got, in my opinion
I agree 100%
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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i remember i raced a guy with a stock evo x MR. ended up walking him (i was stock at the time). He payed 10k more than i did for a slower car.

also, cobalts faster around the twisties
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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Too many people all about roll racing everything on the highway on this site.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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I had a Evo X. Didn't like it so much so I upgraded
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 02:27 AM
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It all depends on ur power goals, after u start pushing 350+ ur gonna start having issues with traction, if u looking far a car thats gonna be putting out 400 hp then buy and evo and build it because imo 400hp is a waste on a cobalt since 1st gear is useless and alot times people spin all throught 2nd as well so u end up doing nothing but roll racing at 80 or going to the tracks with slicks. I plan to build my balt to around 350 hp and thats it current goal is to get to 290 with all the parts i just ordered, but the tc is capable of 300+ on stock turbo so im guessing ur looking for 400+ hp goals.

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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 02:37 AM
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Your Cobalt will be harder to sell in several years vs the Evo X. Sell it while its hot
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by N_Lowe
Alright guys, ive had my cobalt for a year, and ive loved it so far. MY only problem is i honestly think the Evo x is the sexiest car alive for my price cap and am debating on selling my SS/TC to buy one. i just want everyones input on either building a monster balt (6k-7k price cap), or buying an Evo x, waiting a year or two and dropping that into an AWD car.

Current mods on the cobalt are:

MPX Catted DP + Cat bak exhaust
K&N Short Ram Intake
Injen CP
GMS1

not much, and i understand that, i am looking to build a monster wether it be my SS or a Evo, guess im just asking for advice on a huge build list, (turbo upgrade, cams, all the internal goodies, tuner (hp or trifecta) and any other you can think of) or put that money into an AWD car?

was kind of eyeing up the new ZZ-ZFR ZZP turbo, any input? Im open for suggestions and what seems to be the real deal. asking for input, not trying to fight haha. so keep the suggestions rolling!

I enjoy the thought of having a sleeper to destroy posers on the streets cuz where im from not to many people even know about the SS's let alone the TC version, but i also enjoy the fact of owning an intimidating car and "wowing" people.

Need help! Thanks guys.
I am an old man so take my advice for what it's worth..

If you keep trying to destroy posers on the street, one day it will catch up with you in the form of jail, death, or them making you watch as they destroy your car for street racing...

Just saying...

AWD is fun but not so much in a 1/4 race. FWD cars can suck for traction but if you take the time to get to know your FWD car, you can make it work. IF you don't want to put any thought into racing then go AWD. I'd personally prefer the sound of a V8 and RWD. I'll probably sell my sleds next year and buy a 10 year old Vette. Easy to tune, easy to mod, and fun to drive.

I have a 400WHP SRT-4. I have yet to get beat by any AWD car in my HP range. I usually see tail lights at first but second gear brings me up to their tail lights while in third gear I end up showing them mine. Sometimes boost management means where your foot is on the throttle...lol..

In the end though it doesn't matter what I say or anyone else. Get the car that pleases your eyes every time you go out to look at it. If you like the new EVO that much, you should get it. I felt that way about the Cobalt SS/SC when it first came out. I still look at it and think...If it was only RWD...lol..
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rallyyellowss
i am an old man so take my advice for what it's worth..

If you keep trying to destroy posers on the street, one day it will catch up with you in the form of jail, death, or them making you watch as they destroy your car for street racing...

Just saying...

Awd is fun but not so much in a 1/4 race. Fwd cars can suck for traction but if you take the time to get to know your fwd car, you can make it work. If you don't want to put any thought into racing then go awd. I'd personally prefer the sound of a v8 and rwd. I'll probably sell my sleds next year and buy a 10 year old vette. Easy to tune, easy to mod, and fun to drive.

I have a 400whp srt-4. I have yet to get beat by any awd car in my hp range. I usually see tail lights at first but second gear brings me up to their tail lights while in third gear i end up showing them mine. Sometimes boost management means where your foot is on the throttle...lol..

In the end though it doesn't matter what i say or anyone else. Get the car that pleases your eyes every time you go out to look at it. If you like the new evo that much, you should get it. I felt that way about the cobalt ss/sc when it first came out. I still look at it and think...if it was only rwd...lol..
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rallyyellowss
i am an old man so take my advice for what it's worth..

If you keep trying to destroy posers on the street, one day it will catch up with you in the form of jail, death, or them making you watch as they destroy your car for street racing...

Just saying...

Awd is fun but not so much in a 1/4 race. Fwd cars can suck for traction but if you take the time to get to know your fwd car, you can make it work. If you don't want to put any thought into racing then go awd. I'd personally prefer the sound of a v8 and rwd. I'll probably sell my sleds next year and buy a 10 year old vette. Easy to tune, easy to mod, and fun to drive.

I have a 400whp srt-4. I have yet to get beat by any awd car in my hp range. I usually see tail lights at first but second gear brings me up to their tail lights while in third gear i end up showing them mine. Sometimes boost management means where your foot is on the throttle...lol..

In the end though it doesn't matter what i say or anyone else. Get the car that pleases your eyes every time you go out to look at it. If you like the new evo that much, you should get it. I felt that way about the cobalt ss/sc when it first came out. I still look at it and think...if it was only rwd...lol..
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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The Evo X sucks ass. Its ugly, overpriced, aftermarket parts are ridiculously high for it, basically it blows compared to a 4g63 viii or ix. If your spending $30k on a car, at least get something worth a damn, such as a new Mustang, Camaro, or a used Z06
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